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Update to beta 2 the old VB ver 1.xx version had really bad secure deletion performance.

Very true, my aplogies. Wonder how they ever slipped that tradename past the authorities its soo generic. Anyway its not defined in winapp2, its in winapp.ini and the details of what CCleaner is deleting are: [AntiVir PE Classic] FileKey1=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\FAILSAVE|*.* FileKey2=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\INFECTED|*.* FileKey3=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\LOGFILES|*.* FileKey4=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\SYSSAVE|*.* FileKey5=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\TEMP|*.* FileKey6=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\UPDATE|*.* FileKey7=%ProgramFiles%\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic|*.old [AntiVir PE Premium] FileKey1=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Premium\FAILSAVE|*.* FileKey2=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Premium\INFECTED|*.* FileKey3=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Premium\LOGFILES|*.* FileKey4=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Premium\SYSSAVE|*.* FileKey5=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Premium\TEMP|*.* FileKey6=%allusersprofile%\Application Data\AntiVir PersonalEdition Premium\UPDATE|*.* FileKey7=%ProgramFiles%\AntiVir PersonalEdition Premium|*.old

Hi folks Thought I would jot down my thoughts on using CCleaner with Vista as a way of protecting your privacy. Firstly people need to think about what applications they have installed. For me, CCleaner does not effectively manage my privacy by default. For example, QuickPar keeps detailed information and caching data on all parity events with binaries I have gotten off Usenet. You need to conduct an audit of what software you use and the compare that to what CCleaner knows about. The file winapp.ini is what CCleaner uses to know about what things to clean. There is a community add on available in this thread: http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=1110 What this does is add a seconday file named winapp2.ini that instructs CCleaner to know about cleaning many more things. You can open both ini files to understand what CCleaner is cleaning at a detailed level. Even with winapp2.ini in my case I still have applications that could be privacy problems that arent cleaned. For example, open office version 2.2 is installed and is not cleaned. This requires a custom entry into winapp2.ini. It isnt that hard to do. Another thing to note here is that any update to CCleaner have to be considered next to elements in winapp2.ini - if CCleaner adds stuff you need to review the contents of winapp2.ini. You have to manage the configuration of this stuff. Sadly, the community has not been very good with helping the devs with the ongoing task of keeping the ini files up to date. For example, Google Earth in its current release is not detected by CCleaner because the registry key its trying to detect (Detect=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Google\Google Earth Plus) does not exist on a google earth free edition install. This is a real problem in my view and I would recommend that Mr G considers appointing some community leaders to help keep track of this stuff. For effectivly managing privacy and being able to rely on CCleaner it is fundamentally important the ini files are up to date and use the correct methods to identify and clean things. Now that your audit is done, CCleaner does not actually delete things in a secure mode by default. They can be recovered by various methods even though youve just "cleaned" them. In CCleaner under options I set the secure deletion method to NSA, which overwrites the entries seven times using a method approved by the NSA. This used to have terrible performance but happily the new beta version fixes it. I also choose to set in the advanced options to untick not deleting temp file stuff less than 48 hours old. Lots of things write stuff here that could be privacy problems and I when I run CCleaner, I want to be confident thats it, Ive cleaned. Not some half baked clean. Vista has a new type of volume shadow copy that could be a privacy problem. If a system restore point was taken, which is enabled by default, it is possible that things in there are privacy issues. Even though you may delete it later on, its still recoverable using a variety of methods. I disable this feature of Vista and live with the rare chance I cant rollback some unwanted change myself. Vista has some good recovery tools anyway that can bring an apparently dead install back to life. CCleaner appears not to clean the new way vista deals with thumbnails either. More info here http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/73720-thumbnail-cache.html Another thing is that CCleaner needs to run as administrator. If you run it under your user context what Vista will do is prevent access to things that should be cleaned. Youll fall into a false sense of being cleaned cos you run cleaner, and think all is well. An interesting thing to do is immediately close CCleaner, run as admin, then clean again and see all the other stuff now purged. I always run CCleaner with no other active user apps so I dont run into file lock problems with open programs. EDIT: Oh and I forgot to add that NTFS has some new features one of them is transactional like file records. So be aware that if your a business, that a court could order for example to find out what times you accessed a certain document to use in a matter against you. ciao

For a detailed look at exactly what CCleaner does look at winapp.ini and winapp2.ini none of the help doco or guides detail it fully.

Your not going to get much help with that post. You dont include what antivirus your using.

Nice nice nice Mr G

Very strange. First off did you try safe mode? If safe mode wont work, what about fixboot and fixmbr in the emergency console?

CCleaner beta runs fine on Vista

I recall that fdisk /mbr has this fix though this is from memory in the bad old days of bootsector viruses

Hey now, dont be like that :0 I was just trying to point out that free help is here on the forum from many members. The first commandment is save pocket money for beer, not for software problems And truthfully, its the script kiddies who think they know it all. Vista has over 50million lines of code. Goodluck trying to understand that operating system in proper, full technical depth inside your head The more the years drag on in my profession the more I see what I dont know. Most ICT people have a general base of knowledge and then a specific expertise ontop of that. Whats dangerous in my book is the professional who thinks they know it all - hmmm wait no I think more dangerous if the the ICT manager who has deadlines and budgets! Yes the latter most certainly!!

Err, I would of written a few lines in a CMD file...could do it automatically and you could have set it to run each time a user logs on. Id rather drink some beer with 10 pounds lol

Apart from the built in vista stuff for photos. personally I use imgburn cos its fast, reliable and not bloated like nero. I dont subscribe to codec packs - for those codecs I need that arent in default vista ultimate I use the latest builds of ffdshow tryouts which nicely does DTS, H.264, Mpeg4-ASP and so on. The decoders in ffdshow are mostly libavcodec from the unix world made into directshow filters for wintel. They are very fast and error resiliant. Note however I dont like how ffdshow defaults mp3, ac3 and lpcm when Vista has those already and I also disable the mixer.

Never. Its a user space thing it wont mess with kernel mode drivers and the like. Your problem is elsewhere.

I submit to you all that: 1. No discernable speed different is apparent to any user when they "cleaned" their registry 2. Registry defragmentation is nonsense 2a. So called "registry optimisation" is nonsense and on vista utilities that change things like the tcp window recieve size will messup what the all new tcpip stack in Vista does automatically 3. Developers use the regsitry for purposes it should not be used quite often and it is impossible for anyone else to determine the true function of all possible registry entrys - thinking you do is just ignorant 4. 90% of all registry "problems" can be fixed without users going in there 5. CCleaner has a safe registry tool for those who must fiddle and play

I agree with Andvari - digital video and transcoding is a complex subject that mostly results in newbies being frustrated and poor quality footage. After confirming your firmware version of the dvd drive personaly I like ImgBurn as my burning app

Hi everyone. Im on Vista x32 and with IE7 I am not able to get a 256 bit AES SSL session happening. The strongest Cypher it appears to negotiate is AES128-SHA. I am in Australia, and the reason I say that is because I am uncertain of the specifics of the crypto export laws MS has to comply with. Im not sure if it is a bug or some requirement. So, would someone in the USA on a USA IP with Vista and IE7 please goto (or if your in another country and are just curious post back here as well): https://www.fortify.net/sslcheck.html And advise me of the crypto strength that is established in the SSL session. Please dont tell me about other browsers or other operating systems. Thankyou,

If the additional items arent found in the winapp2.ini why dont you consider submitting it if its useful for others. I really like the extensibility of CCleaner for my other apps like quickpar and imgburn.

Thats right - an un-noticeable "optimisation". Besides, in vista the IP stack is all new and so called IP network optimisations make it worse. I even saw one regcleaner that had a registry "defragmenter". Five points for FUD factor to that developer.

Upgrade to the 2.0 beta and all that VB craptastic is gone gone gone!

You can delete them but obviously rollback is not going to happen unless you do a system wide sys restore. If you actually compare the number of IE7 fixes against competitors, IE7 does very well. In fact on the Vista platform IE7 is the most secure browser available. I have the firefox alpha 3 as well and it doesnt match all of the security features that IE7 has on Vista. As well, Firefox takes more mouse clicking and general UI effort to run than IE7 for common tasks. Ofcourse the implementation of Gecko 1.9 into FF3 alpha means passing the acid2 test which IE7 does not.

In some countries its illegal to make copies and circumvent drm of media that you even own. Thankfully my country isnt one of them. Thanks for the suggestion about the freeware prog. I have tried it before and found that a number of DVDs in my collection had drm techniques not fixed by it. I find that AnyDVD's ease of use and regular updates is the only solution that works on 100% of my dvd library.

Thanks. Last night I tried it and it works fine.

There is sound technical reasons why MS did the right thing by dropping XP and XP SP1 support. XP SP2 was going to be a new OS but the decision was made for it to be a free SP. Before SP2 XP was a disaster from a number of technical fronts.

Use IMGBurn for burning. The only properly effective ripper is AnyDVD - its commercial software - the freeware ones arent updated enough to keep up with changes to drm.

Move to Vista. The kernel improvements alone from Windows Server 2008 is enough to justify the benefit this gives to users beyond XP. Not to mention the thousands of improvements elsewhere. If you use properly optimised drivers, the Vista drivers now are comparable to the XP ones. The early drivers did not have the polish that XP has from naturally years of refinement....but current benchmarks show comparable performance on properly configured Vista systems. To claim that its bloated and slow is to dismiss clear evidence to the contrary. As for the question of what SP3 does for XP MS has not released that information outside of the small external ms connect group. Its on connect only.