John Grey Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I hope someone here can read anough german, as my windows XP pro SP3 is a german installation. XP and Firefox are getting very slow, admittedly the computer itself also not the fastest, but this speed is baaaad... I have tried about everything else. And then I found all these services that are switched on. I need someone, who really needs to know what he, or she, is talking about. Because advice from other sources ended up interfering with the normal working of the computer, and I had to switch everything back on..... Which of these can be switched off? Anybody knows? Thanks Services Running Arbeitsstationsdienst Running avast! Antivirus Running COM+-Ereignissystem Running Computerbrowser Running DCOM-Server-Prozessstart Running DHCP-Client Running Ereignisprotokoll Running Gatewaydienst auf Anwendungsebene Running Gesch?tzter Speicher Running HID Input Service Running Hilfe und Support Running HTTP-SSL Running IPSEC-Dienste Running Java Quick Starter Running Konfigurationsfreie drahtlose Verbindung Running Kryptografiedienste Running Netzwerkverbindungen Running NLA (Network Location Awareness) Running Plug & Play Running RAS-Verbindungsverwaltung Running Remoteprozeduraufruf (RPC) Running Sekund?re Anmeldung Running Server Running Shellhardwareerkennung Running Sicherheitscenter Running Sicherheitskontenverwaltung Running SSDP-Suchdienst Running Systemereignisbenachrichtigung Running Systemwiederherstellungsdienst Running TCP/IP-NetBIOS-Hilfsprogramm Running Telefonie Running Terminaldienste Running Verwaltung logischer Datentr?ger Running WebClient Running Windows Audio Running Windows User Mode Driver Framework Running Windows-Firewall/Gemeinsame Nutzung der Internetverbindung Running Windows-Verwaltungsinstrumentation Running WMI-Leistungsadapter Running ?berwachung verteilter Verkn?pfungen (Client) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted June 5, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 5, 2011 Have you been to the blackviper site? A lot of people use this site for setting which services on which operating system are safe to disable or set to manual. http://www.blackviper.com/2008/05/19/black-vipers-windows-xp-x86-32-bit-service-pack-3-service-configurations/ You don't mention what security software you have installed and if you have had any problems with malware/virus recently. If you boot up into safe mode with networking do you get the same slowdown? Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Grey Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 Thanks. I use Avast permanently, I also use Malwarebytes, and even Avira live, but nothing ever turns up. The problem with sites like blackviper is, that they do not give precise enough instructions. Basically they would only be useful, if I already knew the answer to the question I am asking. If you follow the instructions, you simply sooner or later end up with a no longer really functioning computer and you have to re-install, what was deleted and end up where you started... which is precisely where I am right now. I guess it might simply be my not too fast computer (1,60 Ghz), but in a week I will be back home with my "real" machine.... Thanks again for trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy2 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 @John Grey: I turned off the service called ""Auto Update"" (I don't know what the name in german is) because it drove me nuts. Everytime I started my computer it performed a full scan of my harddisk and that took about 10 minutes and during that time my laptop was crawling like a snail. But I manually turn that service on every month when there're new updates available from Microsoft. System setup: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/gcNzIPEjEb0B2khOOBVCHPc A discussion always stimulates the braincells !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroozer Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'm no expert, but I see nothing conspicuous as the probable cause of your slow performance. Services Running Workstation Service Running avast! Anti Virus Running COM + Event System Running Computer Browser Running DCOM Server Process Launcher Running DHCP Client Running Event Log Running at the application level gateway service Running Protected Storage HID Input Service Running Running Help and Support Running HTTP SSL Running IPSEC Services Running Java Quick Starter Running Wireless Zero Configuration Running Cryptographic Services Running Network Connections Running NLA (Network Location Awareness) Running Plug and Play Running Remote Access Connection Manager Running Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Running Secondary Logon Running Server Running Shell Hardware Detection Running Safety Center Running SAM Running SSDP Discovery Service Running System Event Notification Running System Restore Service Running TCP / IP NetBIOS Helper Running Telephony Running Terminal Services Running Logical Disk Manager Running WebClient Running Windows Audio Running Windows User Mode Driver Framework Running Windows Firewall / Internet Connection Sharing Running Windows Management Instrumentation Running WMI Performance Adapter Running Distributed Link Tracking (Client) I suspect the source of your difficulties lies elsewhere. I have a zippy Vista, so I don't stop anything on my list from running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy2 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Perhaps Windows Taskmanager provides an answer which processes are eating up so much of the speed. Post here the content of what Taskmanager shows and make sure the processes that eat the most process time and/or memory are on top of the list. And we'll have a look at it. And of course I would advise you to install CLEANMEM memory manager. It can dramatically reduce memory usage and as a result of that Windows doesn't need to access the swapfile on the harddisk that often anymore. And accessing the harddisk/swapfile slows Windows down (dramatically). http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=28918 System setup: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/gcNzIPEjEb0B2khOOBVCHPc A discussion always stimulates the braincells !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted June 7, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 7, 2011 I use Avast permanently, I also use Malwarebytes, and even Avira live, but nothing ever turns up. You mentioned Avast and Avira. If both of those are installed at the same time that alone could cause serious performance issues, even if you think you've got one of their resident shields "fully disabled". Avira AntiVir for one won't always play nice with other real-time antivirus' installed, it's likely to cause lockups/freezing. If you must have two antivirus programs installed you could try something else, one resident and one on demand such as this setup: * Avast Antivirus (real-time) + ClamWin Free Antivirus or ClamWin Portable (has no real-time ability yet) * Avira AntiVir (real-time) + ClamWin Free Antivirus or ClamWin Portable (has no real-time ability yet) * Microsoft Security Essentials (real-time) + ClamWin Free Antivirus or ClamWin Portable (has no real-time ability yet) ...etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Grey Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 @John Grey: I turned off the service called ""Auto Update"" (I don't know what the name in german is) because it drove me nuts. Everytime I started my computer it performed a full scan of my harddisk and that took about 10 minutes and during that time my laptop was crawling like a snail. But I manually turn that service on every month when there're new updates available from Microsoft. Thanks, but auto update is turned off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Grey Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'm no expert, but I see nothing conspicuous as the probable cause of your slow performance. Services Running Workstation Service Running avast! Anti Virus Running COM + Event System Running Computer Browser Running DCOM Server Process Launcher Running DHCP Client Running Event Log Running at the application level gateway service Running Protected Storage HID Input Service Running Running Help and Support Running HTTP SSL Running IPSEC Services Running Java Quick Starter Running Wireless Zero Configuration Running Cryptographic Services Running Network Connections Running NLA (Network Location Awareness) Running Plug and Play Running Remote Access Connection Manager Running Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Running Secondary Logon Running Server Running Shell Hardware Detection Running Safety Center Running SAM Running SSDP Discovery Service Running System Event Notification Running System Restore Service Running TCP / IP NetBIOS Helper Running Telephony Running Terminal Services Running Logical Disk Manager Running WebClient Running Windows Audio Running Windows User Mode Driver Framework Running Windows Firewall / Internet Connection Sharing Running Windows Management Instrumentation Running WMI Performance Adapter Running Distributed Link Tracking (Client) I suspect the source of your difficulties lies elsewhere. I have a zippy Vista, so I don't stop anything on my list from running. I also suspect the old age of this 1.6 GHZ machine.... I will fly back home on sunday, and there will be my fast Windows7. This one here I use for travelling, and it seems so much slower than it used be before... Especially Firefox and the vlc player. (I have changed over to KM player, which is a lot faster). Worst is turning the computer off, it really takes several minutes... what to do. I suppose when we get old, we also get slower.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Grey Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Perhaps Windows Taskmanager provides an answer which processes are eating up so much of the speed. Post here the content of what Taskmanager shows and make sure the processes that eat the most process time and/or memory are on top of the list. And we'll have a look at it. And of course I would advise you to install CLEANMEM memory manager. It can dramatically reduce memory usage and as a result of that Windows doesn't need to access the swapfile on the harddisk that often anymore. And accessing the harddisk/swapfile slows Windows down (dramatically). http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=28918 No, taskmanager shows absolutely nothing, its all "Leerlaufprocess" (running empty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Grey Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 You mentioned Avast and Avira. If both of those are installed at the same time that alone could cause serious performance issues, even if you think you've got one of their resident shields "fully disabled". Avira AntiVir for one won't always play nice with other real-time antivirus' installed, it's likely to cause lockups/freezing. If you must have two antivirus programs installed you could try something else, one resident and one on demand such as this setup: * Avast Antivirus (real-time) + ClamWin Free Antivirus or ClamWin Portable (has no real-time ability yet) * Avira AntiVir (real-time) + ClamWin Free Antivirus or ClamWin Portable (has no real-time ability yet) * Microsoft Security Essentials (real-time) + ClamWin Free Antivirus or ClamWin Portable (has no real-time ability yet) ...etc. No, I did not write that. I have Avast installed, and because it gets so slow I check with other software also. Malwarebytes is not turned on, just installed, and Avira Live, is a special boot CD which you can download from Avira... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Although Windows has many services not all are active and the ones that are running do not really cause significant slow down. Some services are essential for running Windows so be careful what you turn off you may cause more harm than good. - If you're experiencing slow downs check your CPU load / Interrupts make sure they're not pegged (use Process Explorer for this). - Check your system logs (eventvwr.exe) this may indicate problems with software or hardware that wasn't entirely obvious. - Make sure your IDE transfer mode is set to DMA and not PIO mode. - Check the health of your hard drive make sure it's read/write performance is on form (Benchmark test with HD Tune). - Defrag your file system and pagefile, if you haven't defragged in a while your machine performance could suffer. - If your machine has 128MB or less RAM then add more memory to your machine i.e. 512MB+ - Malware could also contribute to a system slowdown due to poor coding. Richard S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Grey Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Although Windows has many services not all are active and the ones that are running do not really cause significant slow down. Some services are essential for running Windows so be careful what you turn off you may cause more harm than good. - If you're experiencing slow downs check your CPU load / Interrupts make sure they're not pegged (use Process Explorer for this). - Check your system logs (eventvwr.exe) this may indicate problems with software or hardware that wasn't entirely obvious. - Make sure your IDE transfer mode is set to DMA and not PIO mode. - Check the health of your hard drive make sure it's read/write performance is on form (Benchmark test with HD Tune). - Defrag your file system and pagefile, if you haven't defragged in a while your machine performance could suffer. - If your machine has 128MB or less RAM then add more memory to your machine i.e. 512MB+ - Malware could also contribute to a system slowdown due to poor coding. Richard S. All of these have been checked, as I have written, by the way. I agree by now, that it probably is simply "old age". One more question I still have. The computergets quite hot, is it possible that a CPU slows down in its performance, because of heat damage? Can it simply perform slower, or would it break completely when overheated? (This question is about damage here, not the overheating. The computer is as slow, when it is still cold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Computers do generate heat and too much heat isn't good for your hardware or for electronic components. I would suggest you monitor your machine using a program called SpeedFan since Speccy still doesn't give tempture readings for P4 CPUs. Note that your graphics card will run a lot hotter than everything else so you should ignore the readings. However if your CPU, motherboard or hard drive are getting close to 60C then you have a problem. Over heating could indicate a cooling / airflow problem i.e fans not working fully because they're clogged up with dust and dirt. Another possibility could be the hard drive, if it gets hot quickly and is much hotter than the CPU or motherboard then you have a problem. Richard S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Grey Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 Computers do generate heat and too much heat isn't good for your hardware or for electronic components. I would suggest you monitor your machine using a program called SpeedFan since Speccy still doesn't give tempture readings for P4 CPUs. Note that your graphics card will run a lot hotter than everything else so you should ignore the readings. However if your CPU, motherboard or hard drive are getting close to 60C then you have a problem. Over heating could indicate a cooling / airflow problem i.e fans not working fully because they're clogged up with dust and dirt. Another possibility could be the hard drive, if it gets hot quickly and is much hotter than the CPU or motherboard then you have a problem. Richard S. I suppose this could have damaged it... my Speccy always shows the temperature of my CPU. And it usual is in the 60s or 70s, as far as I remember, right now it is 64 degrees, after using it for 20 minutes. But I regularly keep my fan windows clean, but that does not make any difference at all. Old age... what to do.... the computer and myself.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted June 10, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 10, 2011 60-70 C (Multiply the Celsius temperature by 9, Divide the answer by 5, Add 32 to get Fahrenheit ) or 60-70 F (Subtract 32 from the Fahrenheit temperature, Divide the answer by 9, Multiply that answer by 5 to get Celsius) ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 60C = 140F Just out of curiosity what are your current temperature readings?? Richard S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trium Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 for example... http://www.windows-tweaks.info/html/dienste.html provided, of course, you know what you use on equipment following services can you deaktivate Java Quick Starter Konfigurationsfreie drahtlose Verbindung - only usefull, if you has a wireless modem... Server - if you not use a network, than can you deaktivate Versions of CCleaner Cloud; Introduction Ccleaner Cloud; Ccleaner-->System-Requirements; Ccleaner FAQ´s; Ccleaner builds; Scheduling Ccleaner Free Es ist möglich, keine Fehler zu machen und dennoch zu verlieren. Das ist kein Zeichen von Schwäche. Das ist das Leben -> "Picard" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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