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Also go to the motherboard's site. That AM2 socket accepts some very good CPUs. If you do upgrade, use the thermal paste recommended by AMD. I did and it has lasted for years. Thermal past is a critical component and shouldn't be an afterthought.

FYI In that tweaking link (post 5 above), it says that the telemetry enablers ARE included. I'm following this win 10 stuff pretty closely but have not yet started the updating, so don't know for sure. Would be great to hear from someone who has done it. Edit: It says over at Ask VG that the telemetry enablers ARE NOT included: "So this rollup package includes all security and non-security recommended updates but it doesn't contain any Get Windows 10 (GWX) or telemetry related update as far as I know." http://www.askvg.com/install-all-post-sp1-updates-offline-in-windows-7-using-convenience-rollup-package/ But it seems to say over at wilders that some ARE (read on down a bit): http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/windows-7-sp2-launched.385925/

Thanks, Hazelnut. Got it.

Thanks for the warning, Hazelnut. For a long time I have used a sort of a workaround that should prevent this sort of thing. I use a portable browser, running in Sandboxie, running on a virtualized operating system. I use Powershadow for win xp, also available are Returnil, Shadow Defender, maybe others. No changes are made to the "real" system. If a problem occurs in the sandbox, just shut the browser off and delete it. If a problem occurs with the OS. just restart and its gone. Ok, maybe everybody on earth knew about this, but maybe there is one newbie out there that didn't . . .

Yet another use for the Xbox 360. Little over half way down the page it says "The laser is controlled with a standard Xbox 360 controller (“If it breaks, just head to the barracks to get a replacement!”) and a laptop with custom targeting software." http://www.wired.com/2015/08/welcome-world-drone-killing-laser-cannon/

First, congratulations on being a teacher. Imho it's the most important profession in the world today, especially at the elementary and high school levels. It aint easy. Keep the faith. Your position on win 10 is very reasonable, and very responsible. I guess its just two ways of looking at the same situation.

Jellyfish, about 3 miles down. the video is here: http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1605/dailyupdates/media/video/0424-jelly/0424-jelly.html

Videos & photos taken by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, miles under the sea. Fascinating, imho. Some would make excellent May desktops. Hint Hint. I'll post a link here, and you can follow the links on the pages to find tons more. http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1605/logs/photolog/welcome.html This object is at about 3 miles down. http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1605/logs/apr22/welcome.html

Thanks for the kind words Andavari. However, as far as the quote above, I have to give 3 to 5 odds in favor of your mom.

Several things, actually, but I realize it is just me. Tilting at windmills, maybe. Paranoid, maybe. Just plain OLD, maybe. At the very least I qualify as a late adopter, still running win xp. 1. I don't like microsoft's high handed method for pushing win 10. - Upgrade KBs will bypass your HOSTS and firewall settings. - The same update KBs get refreshed and re-sent even after you hide them. - win 7 and 8 were supposed to allow the owner to control updates. Now they don't. - Early on win 10 hammered lots of drivers & apps, I have no reason to believe it will not do that again. - In some instances win 10 downloaded big files in preparation for the upgrade. Users said they didn't give permission. I know, I know, they should be more aware, but tell that to my 90 year old granny or my 15 year old granddaughter (just examples, I actually have neither). - Popups. For years I have been conditioned to react to those, they usually meant trouble, now users are being conditioned to ignore them. - You know how to handle those popups, so do I, but granny & granddaughter have no clue. Microsoft knows or should know that. I think they are banking on it. Its true, there are ways to stop the upgrade system. - But they aren't easy, and the end user shouldn't have to do the work of deploying them. - Consider: microsoft could have just as easily sent a popup saying something like "win 10 is available for free, click here to find out about it. This message will show once a month until the offer expires" and let that be that. - But instead, coders outside of microsoft had to develop upgrade stoppers. 2. Official spokesmen for microsoft don't speak candidly. An example, in an interview with Mary Jo Foley and paul thurrott, Chris Capossela sort of let the cat out of the bag when he said that the more win 10 users they get on board, the more developers would be interested in making things for the windows phone. It was a long interview and he did a good job, but it was pretty much impossible to disguise microsoft's multiple agendas. 3. I have no reason to think that this upgrade initiative is benign, don't know what the OS is sending home, don't want to investigate enough to find out. Apparently win 10 sends out lots of user data. Also don't know for sure that microsoft will be able to protect my data. Remember when their source code was stolen? 4. Win 10 is no buggier or less secure than any other Linux or windows OS but no better either, and it seems that the older, more widely tried OSs are easier to control. Generally, microsoft OSs seem to be getting less flexible and more opaque with each release. 5. Last but most important, win 10 has nothing to offer that I don't have on win xp. I skipped ME and vista, but bought a win 7 computer because it had a nifty movie and slide show maker, and some friends needed help with that. Those are great softwares but I already have all that stuff here on win xp. Also office software, security software, etc., pretty much everything I want. On the other hand, if win 10 is really "the last" windows version, and microsoft does a good job of maintaining security and privacy, I'll sign up. After they do all that. Otherwise I'll stay with win xp till this box quits, then win 7, then Linux from there on. Now I should say that all the above is just my opinion, has nothing to do with the Piriform team, and I am just a single, reasonably well informed curmudgeonly user. If this rant is in any way offensive to the makers of the fine software CCleaner, just delete it, no taken offense here.

I've tried Linux Lite and Zorin Linux distros. They act much like windows, keep stuff in much the "same places", and run well here on old win xp computer. There are also the Puppy variations which run in RAM. There is even one fellow over at the Puppy Linux forums who runs his main computer without a hard drive. Boots Puppy into RAM, then saves anything he needs to on a USB storage. Stick or HDD, I don't remember. I am just making preparations for when this hardware fails. Win 10 is not for me, so I'll need to be prepared.

Hi, battiestkitty. Welcome here. Your original install disk from when you upgraded years ago probably will not work on a different model of computer. Your original install disk from the big box store might work, but also might create driver problems. Driver problems can be a pain. Before you change the OS, think about just changing the way the desktop works, to make it act more like win 7. If you like that, It would be a lot easier. I have a win 8.1 laptop that was modified by a local shop to look and act like win 7. It does that very well, and it retains the desirable features of win 8.1. Sadly, I didn't do the modifications myself so cannot advise you. Try a StartPage search, that might show you enough to do it yourself, or maybe other members here know an easy way. Edit: The BIOS password should be available from the Dell website or the person from whom you got the computer. I have no idea how to bypass it, or if it can be bypassed. But if it can, that technique would have no place here.

Thanks.

Best way to take pressure off Winapp is to leave it alone (see post 5520), make polite requests for new softwares to be added, and say thank you from time to time. Two analogs come to mind: Gorhill's decision to separate uBlock Origin from uBlock, and the story of The Little Red Hen. edit: Hey siliconman01, is that the same ini file?

Firefox 44.0.2, win xp, link works fine.

Aaahhh, well. I didn't mean to disparage any of the efforts of the many contributors to this thread. I only meant to address the question of whether to put the .ini file on github. On that issue I have to stand. It's Winapp's project.

I would suggest just leaving the situation as it is. I only speak for myself, not the Piriform people. When Winapp has time to make changes, he will, and we will be grateful for the update. The pressure of school endeavors is enough, there should be no additional pressure on Winapp. Talk of ownership, and what could be done if push came to shove, is an unpleasant direction to take. It could have negative consequences for Winapp himself, and for the winapp2.ini project which has been so helpful to so many for so long. And no, I am NOT going to outline the many possible negative consequences. There are however a few issues related to plain old good manners, such as: If I was an artist, I would not want my work shown publicly by anyone except me. If I was an author, I would not want each draft of my work exposed unless I decided it was ready. If I was a software developer, I would want to be the one who decides if or when it gets released, or posted, or whatever. But the bigger issue, imho, is that the work (the .ini file) is already publicly available, for free, here on this forum and other places. It is built for use with an application called CCleaner, also free. If CCleaner users decide to use the winapp2.ini file, they can get it here. I bet 99.99 percent already know that. So just leave it alone. Winapp2.ini himself has already decided where it belongs. Edit: Winapp may come along and blow my philosophical maundering completely out of the water by saying "Sure, post it wherever you like", but that should be his choice.

+1, good idea. It's gonna be a great browser, imho. Keep in mind, tho, that Vivaldi is under development, it is pretty dynamic right now. I guess that makes it more of a challenge for developers.

Trium, It seems the issue is caused by windows updates itself. And yes, in my opinion its related to microsoft's increasingly desperate effort to get everyone onto win 10. Some folks have mentioned exactly your issue, win 7 doesn't find updates, and then after a looooong wait it finally does. It is not enough to just hide an update anymore, like in the old days. Some of them get re-issued (same name, different version), some get replaced or superseded, some just seem to slow things up. My list of updates to ignore or uninstall has grown to over 50 items. There is so much inconsistency in the available information that I hesitate to post anything specific. I haven't actually tried any of the suggestions yet.

The Lone Ranger: "What do you think all those stars mean, Tonto?" Tonto: "Someone took our tent."

@ ticomilitar et al. I just downloaded and installed CCleaner free, and updated CCleaner pro. Both are now version 5.16.551. I did not see the google offers because CCleaner has been installed before. But if those do show up, it's easy to uncheck the boxes. Then used MBAM and Avast to scan the installer exe files for the slim, portable, and installed versions. Then scanned the installed folders in C:\Program Files. No malware. I've gone through these steps several times in the past, and NEVER found malware in a CCleaner file. Soooo, if you have a malware issue, it didn't come from an authentic CCleaner installation. You may have gotten a bogus installer file. It may have installed malware. If so, go to this link, scroll down to item #10, and see how to get your malware removed. http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showannouncement=15&f=5

The only portable I could find is ver 1.9.0, a zip file, See post #6 this topic. I did try it, it seemed to work, can't try it right now, am on the wrong OS for it.

Hi, ishan. Good to see you back. Very nice picture.

Just tried the same sites using Seamonkey in Puppy Linux. Same deal, round & round, no download, no popup blockers. I might be doing something wrong, but I clicked on every link I could find, including the advertisements. Any idea whats up with that?

Yes, thanks, I did that a couple of times and the links rolled me around to brothersoft, then to 76files dot com, then back to brothersoft, over & over. No popup blockers, no download blockers were apparent, and no download happened. So i just got the files from other sources. Anyway the whole exercise was just to be sure one could avoid the fully advertised delta toolbar and the ebay link during installation. One can indeed do so. But for most folks it wouldn't be worth the trouble, I guess.