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Thank you.

Will have to mount my monitor on a pivoting arm or something.

Thanks, chronos55. Got it.

Thanks, Jago.

from the link in Hazelnut's post: Andy man, you are in the top .00035 percent (did I get that right?). You're a hero and you surely deserve that MVP status.

Quote Rridgely: Stay safe everyone. Thanks, Rridgely, best advice of all. Pray for the innocents, who's only role in this fight is to get hurt.

Thanks very much for that post. Had hoped that would be the case, but not sure. . .feel better now. edit 28 June 07: There is some intriguing information about PS at the link below. I am not savvy enough to evaluate it, but it seems like PS remained registered after the user reformatted??? I am going to reformat soon, will see let you know if mine stays registered also. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread....good#post971563

Thank you. Got'em.

NSA never says anything, but the FBI says they are doing better: http://www.utdallas.edu/~pervin/eyes.html Old stuff, but maybe worth a re-look?

Secret lab, hermetically sealed under a mountain in . . . Thanks, looking forward to it.

Well said , Dennis, well said. I was going to say something like that, but couldn't shape the phrases right. Here's my 2 cents: The moderators on this forum are heroes. Rridgely, TwistedMetal, Hazelnut, AndyManchesta, Noviciate, are all geniuses. They are polite, helpful, and apparently tireless. They know so much about the computer business that they can use (or not use) any old program and make it come out OK. But it is good to remember also that Humpty is not chopped liver. Indeed, most of the members are tremendously knowledgeable. It is also good to remember that many computer users don't know how to look beyond the user interface, and many don't care to or don't have the time. It takes a lot of time to learn these things. Many of the folks where I work have almost no computer knowledge. It is not what they signed on to do, and they have no interest in it. That's where this forum comes into the picture for me. I like to try out new applications, do that instead of watching TV. Have never seen a bad app recommended here. If a bad one was recommended, the other members would know about it and post arguments against it. Sooo, if nobody hammers a recommendation too hard, and it is something I need, and I think I understand it, I'll try it. Using virtualization programs (which I had no idea about until I met them here) allows me to use and test apps which I would normally shy away from, just because I can't afford the time to reinstall everything if an app goes blooey. So, the issue brought up by Slowday is interesting. The way I use a computer on the net means that I can use all the security help I can get, but many folks will never need such a thing as powershadow or Eraser or SIW. That scraping sound is me putting away the lectern.

Thanks, Humpty, I downloaded it and will install it soon for a trial.

Absalootley right. How about if Microsoft offered good security software? Today I saw a product called Microsoft One Care or something like that. Fifty bucks. . . . Fifty bucks. It's like saying "Here, that new car you bought, for fifty bucks I'll make it run right." The Microsoft guys could easily contract with some really good firewall/AV company to furnish their product for free for genuine windows users. Pay the FW/AV company big bunch of money just for the use of their product. They (the smaller company) do the R&D work, and the updates and maintenance. MS just uses it and gives them the credit (and a fee). Good name recognition boost for the smaller company, cheap (relatively) for Microsoft, lets the customer know Microsoft is concerned. Nobody loses. Make the contract time limited. . .if the software isn't the best available next year, Microsoft contracts with someone else. Bill Gates must have thought of this idea. Wonder why they don't do it?

Shazam. . .never used the address bar before today. . .ya learn something every day. Thanks, Fireyone. However. . .history folder is still ornery. Right now mine has 4 files called index.dat, and 2 called desktop.ini, none of which are visible in windows explorer. I can find them by copying the history folder into my documents, winzipping it, then viewing the zip file, also by the slower method of navigating to each folder by way of the dos prompt. Don't know if other archiving utilities will work the same as winzip, to show up the hidden files, cannot check right now, am on a different computer. My objective is to securely delete all the TIF folders. Using CCleaner v1.36.430, they were just deleted, not securely deleted (pointed out by Andavari), so I moved them at startup to c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp. I believe that this folder is securely deleted by CCleaner. Two exe commands, movefile and pendmoves, can be used to move files at startup. They are available free from http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx. >whew<, sorry for the long post.

Super find, Humpty. 'Nuther website here, has movies: (loads slowly, tho) http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2007/sn2006gy/

I have a shredder type program which warns me if I try to shred a folder with any system type files in it, such as .ini, .exe, .dll, etc. It says that since these files are backed up in system restore, it will shut off system restore so that they may be deleted. So of course all the restore points disappear. Could this be in any way related to CCleaner's behavior?

Made my teeth hurt.

"Have a read here, a great system restore troubleshooting guide" Thanks, Hazelnut, for that link. . .have turned off system restore on my recovery partition, only one year late, who knew?

Not stupid. . .incomplete explanation on my part. Smooves fixed it. Do you get a temp reading now?

Hi xxxxsh4d0wxxxx. My 2 cents: Rridgely is right (of course), XP is faster, and by now, more secure, but AMD dual core + 2 gig ram will run most anything. I have never installed a new OS over an existing one, but I would several questions if I had to make the decision you are considering. 1. If I install XP on my new computer, then thats it, right? Microsoft contends that it is stuck on that computer forever. I don't intend to try to hack it so that I can use it on more than one, don't even know how. 2. If I install my XP on my new computer, does that prevent me from reinstalling Vista on my new computer if I want to later? 3. If I do reinstall vista, will Microsoft registration still think that my copy of XP is associated with my new computer (now running vista again), so that it is now uninstallable? 4. Is vista capable of running everything you need? 5. What undiscovered glitches exist in vista? XP is still releasing security patches, updates, etc. 6. Whats the rush? If it runs OK, fine. If not, you can decide to install XP at any time if you have a copy. (Thats just me, conservative approach, I have a copy of windows 3.1 .) I have a copy of XP Pro in a box, just in case the next windows release is a clunker, or I want to build my own computer. Your post made me think about it, thanks. Will probably get another copy before the windows guys come to all the stores and get them like they did for W98.

Same way I felt when it worked. Not sure I would unload the security stuff just yet. . . And also, if I understand correctly, you can't install anything which requires a reboot?

Just click on the exefile, it can be stored anywhere. I think you're right, Smooves, some hard drives don't have the sensors. . .don't know for sure. One of mine gives no result. Hope it works OK for you.

Just uninstalled PS 2.6, installed PS 2.82. Everything works well. PS 2.82 will register online still yet. Like others I don't see much difference except that 2.82 doesn't seem to phone home like 2.6 did, or if it is Zone isn't catching it. All the test files are gone if they should be, still there if they should be. Does seem to have slowed the boot up process a little bit. Heck of an app if there is no catch to it. Thanks, Humpty.

Just installed sandboxie and Powershadow. Both make pretty big changes, I think, but they installed with no warning from a host of protectors too numerous to mention. Only one that protested was little ole Tea Timer. Made'em wait for the OK. Old fashioned, maybe, but I like it.

Well, Humpty, I installed Sandboxie and Powershadow. Both slipped in past every free security application in the known universe except little old Tea Timer. . . . . .It stopped'em cold till I gave permission. Sandboxie working great so far. Powershadow 2.6 another matter, single shadow made that ripple effect, scared the dickens out of me, then full shadow shut the whole system down and rebooted, 'nuther scare, then an error message. . .don't think it worked cause the test files I made weren't deleted. More reports later as I have time to experiment some. Thanks for the information. When PS gets up and going it will be really great. edit 06 may 07: started again in full shadow, logged in here, no problems whatever. Now to experiment with the test files.