Humpty Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 While blanket ad blocking in general is still theft, the real problem is Ad Block Plus's unwillingness to allow individual site owners the freedom to block people using their plug-in. Blocking FireFox is the only alternative. Demographics have shown that not only are FireFox users a somewhat small percentage of the internet, they actually are even smaller in terms of online spending, therefore blocking FireFox seems to have only minimal financial drawbacks, whereas ending resource theft has tremendous financial rewards for honest, hard-working website owners and developers.. Since the makers of Ad Block Plus as well as the filter subscriptions that accompany it refuse to allow website owners control over their own intellectual property, and since FireFox actively endorses Ad Block Plus, the sites linking to this page are now blocking FireFox until the resource theft is stopped. Broadband Reports Article Blocked Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony A Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 All my browsers have ad blocking not just Firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunerz Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Some ads are somewhat dangerous. Some or even most of them links on phishing/spyware/malware sites. No wonder FF users use Adblock Plus If a site blocks FF users, I'll just set my user agent user to Googlebot. In that way they will think I'm just the.... ermm... the bot from Google! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I don't think webmasters would actually want risking losing the visitors that use Firefox. Anyone noticed the link to the pro-Opera propaganda "Firefox myths" website ? http://www.last.fm/user/Matt714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunerz Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I have seen that site. That person in that site has to control rants. No software will always be perfect, since the programmer too is imperfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Individuals who continuously exaggerate rants against applications which are widely used is nothing new. Microsoft Windows supposedly crashes all the time. http://www.last.fm/user/Matt714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted August 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 This is sort of related: Many websites that are adwhores and complain about their ad's being blocked have in the past resorted to some very underhanded tactics too. Such as; wiping clean a visitors HOSTS file and other ad blocking software's filter's such as a proxy ad blocking software like CookieCop that prevents adverts from being displayed. It only requires a browser with JavaScript enabled to do it. It happened to me once many many years ago after I enraged a very popular website owner/maintainer which still runs that popular website. When I used to friends with him we got into our own hellish war over adverts when he went the "malicious route" of dealing with people that blocked his sites ad's, which is why I keep my main block lists backed up off my PC, and even have my editable HOSTS file on a completely different hard disk which can be restored just by double clicking one batch file installer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spysnake Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I really don't consider blocking ads stealing. Nothing which improves my computer's usability or security can be stealing. Really, a ad banner or two in nice places, outside of the main area of view, without any flashing texts or sound is ok. But a site full of flashing and ringing banners coupled with javascript windows telling that your computer is at risk clearly isn't ok. Really, when I surf the web, I don't look for advertisements. And what I don't look for, I don't want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunerz Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 If ads will become really useful not only to the owner, but also to the visitor, then hella clicks will go up. I mostly see ads linking to malicious sites which a person will really consider blocking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony A Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I don't see what the big deal is with Firefox. Almost all browsers have add blocking now days. IE7 with IE7 Pro Opera has it built in Maxthon 1 and 2 have it built in Avant has it built in most if not all of the IE shells have it built in Flock you can add ABP K Melon uses ABP also. This is going to go the same route as the pop up blocker. They complained about browsers with those not to long ago and now they all have them. If you use Firefox and run across many sites that block you because of this install the User Agent Switcher extension. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted August 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 This guy is just a goon. Its the same guy who complained so much about the prefecth option in CCleaner and goes around on download sites giving it low scores because of it and the toolbar. (he usually goes by mastertech). Just ignore him and hopefully he will go away one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 it seems that every so often some sites like to block users of FF who have enabled certain add-ons - there's some sites that block FF users who have the extension that allows faster browsing and the prefetch features (I forget its name). I suppose some sites rely on advertising to keep the site going but that's their problem not mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted August 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 Oh no!! Not mastertech and prefetch!!!! Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Fasterfox, that's its name! Some site owners complain that users of that eat their bandwidth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted August 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 Fasterfox, that's its name! Some site owners complain that users of that eat their bandwidth... That one I can sympathize with. If everyone using that extension drives up your bandwidth bill by thousands of dollars then I can see why you wouldnt want those on your site. To be honest I didnt even notice an increase in speed when I tried that. I just looked on digg and aparently someone hacked his site. http://whyisfirefoxblocked.com/ I took a screenshot in case it gets fixed before you get to see it: Its a mean/wrong thing to do but its oh so funny. Edit: Nevermind digg users suck. Its not the same url but its close enough I didnt notice it.(I didnt read the comments first.) Anyway its still funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted August 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 This guy is just a goon. Its the same guy who complained so much about the prefecth option in CCleaner and goes around on download sites giving it low scores because of it and the toolbar. (he usually goes by mastertech). That clown again! He's like some ass itch that just won't go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony A Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I took a screenshot in case it gets fixed before you get to see it: Hey you are using IE7 so you don't matter to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted August 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 Hey you are using IE7 so you don't matter to him Until he starts complaining about people using HOSTS files and starts blocking Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted August 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 I'm pretty sure even linux and mac users have a host file. (just block... THE WORLD!) I've been using IE7 since installing the new pro plug in. I have to say its pretty compelling. On my widescreen monitor for some reason I think IE just looks better. I fully expect to run into some problem driving me back to firefox soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted August 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 I fully expect to run into some problem driving me back to firefox soon though. At the moment I would instead use IE7 which I can't stand one bit versus the most recent incarnation of Firefox which is really buggy and I've since downgraded back one version to solve the issues I was having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_L Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Ridiculous. It's like saying I'm stealing if I zip past the commercials when I Tivo a TV program. It's my TV and my computer and I decide what I view on each of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spysnake Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Just a simple question: Do you think even he wants to watch countless ads? Like, with a magnifying glass and the zoom feature since he clearly loves them so much? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Seems like his website is down. http://www.last.fm/user/Matt714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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