Humpty Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Memory optimisers are a waste of time and should never be used. Now for the tip that I found in one of my other forums which most of the experts here probably already know about. Open Taskmanager and leave it open. Open my computer,minimize and watch explorer's mem usage drop. Maximize and explorer will go to about half of it's original mem usage. Open a large word document and do the same.Winword.exe will dramatically drop it's memory usage,same as for IE. Works on quite a few apps I've tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDemolition Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 it happens on all programs really. the reason why it does that is because there is nothing to display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpty Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 it happens on all programs really. the reason why it does that is because there is nothing to display. Open My Computer and close it,slight drop in explorer's mem usage. Minimize and then explorer dramatically drops it's mem usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted January 25, 2007 Moderators Share Posted January 25, 2007 Interesting, I never knew that existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpty Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Yep Andavari,only found it myself today. It even works with taskmanager. First opened it's using 3,780kb. Minimize then reopen and it's using only 1,432 kb. Now can anyone tell me how and why there "seems" to be less memory used. Sorta works the same way as the "config.trim_on_minimize" setting for Firefox. On Windows operating systems, when a program is minimized and left for a period of time, Windows will reclaim the memory the program used in anticipation that other programs might need it. Because of the way Mozilla applications are stored in memory, Windows is much more aggressive in reclaiming the memory they use, which can cause a delay when the program is restored. This preference determines whether to allow Windows to reclaim memory from a minimized Mozilla application. Mozilla article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted January 25, 2007 Moderators Share Posted January 25, 2007 Too bad there's no way to get it to work with svchost.exe, it's the biggest memory hog on my system, well erm Firefox is able to bloat right past it sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Dude that is interesting. Pitty it has no use to me today but would have been a lifesaver if it worked on the old win98.. Bad memories of having 350mhz with about 128 ram or less LoL. g wasn't them the good old dayz Comodo Firewall Pro 2.4 Avira Antivir PersonalEdition Classic Spyware Terminator (Realtime & Hips enabled) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted January 25, 2007 Moderators Share Posted January 25, 2007 Bad memories of having 350mhz with about 128 ram or less LoL. g wasn't them the good old dayz There wasn't too much good about Win98 back in the day . I remember crashes, the VxD bug that caused Win98 to commit virtual suicide, and annual OS reinstalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpty Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Another quirk I have found is that if you use the keyboard shortcut to minimize - windows key+M - there is no drop in mem usage by any app. Also,if I remember correctly when I had AVG antispyware that all processess drop dramatically in memory usage after a memory scan. So there must be a way or run command to this manually. Not that I need this as I have a gig of ddr. Just on a learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDPower Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 So there must be a way or run command to this manually. That'd be a great find (if there is one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted January 26, 2007 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2007 Here is a link, not tried it though http://www.trap17.com/index.php/memory-tri...-xp_t38816.html Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted January 26, 2007 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2007 Here is a link, not tried it though http://www.trap17.com/index.php/memory-tri...-xp_t38816.html I've been using that since the Win98 days, however I've noticed no real difference. That page unfortunately doesn't tell enough info about it, hence the quote below: Change DLL Unload Time Explanation taken from VoptXP v7.12 / DLL unloading: DLLs are system files which many programs use. Windows always unloads DLLs from memory when they are no longer in use, but only after the DLL has not been used for a period of time. This inactive period might be unacceptably long for optimum system performance. ------------------------------------------------------------ The registry key that you would need to change: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\AlwaysUnloadDll "(Default)" How to turn AlwaysUnloadDLL Off (0 is off, Windows Default Setting): 1. Open the registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\AlwaysUnloadDll 2. To disable AlwaysUnloadDLL and reset it back to the Windows standard settings change the Default number to: 0 How to turn AlwaysUnloadDLL On (1 is on, so-called Performance Booster): 1. Open the registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\AlwaysUnloadDll 2. To enable AlwaysUnloadDLL to fast unloading change the Default number to: 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ Warning: Changing the DLL Unload Time may make Windows start to act in strange ways, such as: * Programs that never crash all of a sudden start crashing. * Programs that load correctly all of a sudden crash when you try to start them. * Winsock.dll errors if you use a proxy server or ad filtering software, etc. Suggestion: * Before changing the DLL Unload Time it would be a good ideal to manually backup the system registry, that way if changing the setting causes major problems you can undo it rather quickly. * Print this document for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDPower Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Here is a link, not tried it though http://www.trap17.com/index.php/memory-tri...-xp_t38816.html I tried that a while back and kept getting explorer failing to start at computer startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Age Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Here is a link, not tried it though http://www.trap17.com/index.php/memory-tri...-xp_t38816.html I tried that and it completely messed my system up but thankfully I restored everything back to normal. Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit Edition | COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 with 4 120mm Blue LED FANS 1 Regular 120MM FAN and a Custom Window Side Panel | AMD Athlon II x4 2.6GHZ Stock| XIGMATEK HDT-S963 92mm | ASRock A780GXE/128 | G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) @800MHZ | CF 2 XFX 4850 1GB @GPU940/MEM1005 | 320GB/OS 160GB/Storage HDDs | LG CD/DVD SATA | Rosewill 600W 2 12v Rail@44 | Ccleaner, Defraggler | Malwarebytes', SUPERAnti-Spyware | Avira AntiVir Personal | Google Chrome v3/4, IE8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted January 27, 2007 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2007 I guess I'll just stick with running a memory scan in avg antispy. Kills 2 birds with one stone. Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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