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OK all, I still have very seldom freezing problems. after reading a few comments from Riggely & Andavari about disabling some of the less needed scanners. & setting it to standard scanning.

I have disabled all but standard, I now only have 1 scanner running out of 7 , Am I still protected ? with just the standard scans. Or am I all confused as of what was meant.

I just did this and not sure if its cured my problem , But want to make sure i,m covered. Also the few times it froze it did it during the little blue ball in the bottom tray started spinning. I hope this makes sence & appreaciate any advise. Thanks to All. Cowboy

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I think they probably meant Not to use 2 many realtime scanners as they often conflict.

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Disabling Avast's resident shields will leave your computer more vulnerable and open to infections therefore if I were you I'd re-enable them and configure them to use the Standard protection which is the factory default settings, also the Standard protection settings will rarely cause a false positive.

 

There's no sense in my opinion turning off the multiple resident shields protection it supplies. Disabling them would defeat the purpose of Avast auto-protecting your system!

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Well some of the shields could be disabled under certain circumstances.

 

P2P shield- If you don't use p2p programs like limewire, kazaa, bearshear ect.(which you shouldn't because they are riddled with spyware/viruses)

 

Instant Messaging- If you don't use IM programs then its not doing anything for you.

 

Outlook/Exchange- Now I didn't play with this enough but avast didn't scan the emails from either thunderbird or Outlook Express with this service running.(or it didn't say it did in the GUI/files scanned list) Maybe there was a setting I missed but it seems that it only scans emails from outlook.(which makes it useless if you don't have outlook)

 

The others I would probably leave alone.

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Hi Cowboy357. Been following a few of your posts, as I have Avast also. Haven't read every single one, though. Nor am I by any means an expert; 2 years ago my experience or ability was somewhere near where you are now, I think. (Sorry if that's wrong or way out.)

Very curious about the freezing problem, the PCPitstop tests, the windows updates, the status of your windows. So, in reverse order, 1) Have you been able to validate your WindowsXP yet?

2) Any chance of posting a techexpress link to your most recent PCPitstop test?

3) Is it still freezing (when it does) at 8.05 in the morning, or are the times more random?

 

Re: Avast, I have 5 of the seven providers running - sometimes use p2p - but not IM or Outlook. Outlook Express is my mail system. Have no problems with it at all. You do want to check the providers are set to "normal" rather than high. The default program settings are generally excellent, except perhaps for the number of providers running.

It could be a conflict with other software you have running. I see you've had quite a few security applications in the past, what do you have active now? And how many startup items are enabled in msconfig?

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It could be a conflict with other software you have running.

ZoneAlarm would be one of those apps which is why Avast will state it won't start a certain shield. I don't know if I'm remembering correctly or not however I though it was the Network or Web Shield.

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Thanks again for Your responses. I was talking about the ones rridgely mentioned in his response So I just left those 3 disabled & restarted the other ones thankyou .

Andavari, I assume when You say standard that means the level of security which is set all the way to the left ( Normal ) thats where I left it, & is the only kinda setting I can find.

Tarq57, Yes windows is validated, no problem getting the updates , I just do them manually.

The freezing problem is very random . And is more than likely caused by NetZero, My Isp. I opened task mgr & watch it constantly. about 15 minutes out of every hour netzero uses 100% memory or whatever the hell it is. & if it happens to happen at the same time Avasts little ball is spinning at the bottom instant freeze.

Theres 24 startup items All necesary . I had the experts from this site ( Thanks Andy )look at the pcpitstop tests & all was fine exept connection speed .

I have superantispyware, spywareblaster, Ccleaner, Avast , & windows firewall, So I dont beleive I have to much. All are updated & ran daily

If needed I have all kinds of store bought security apps i can use by installing the disk,s & updating , But I wont do it till needed. I hope this asnswers Your Questions, & Thanks again to All. Cowboy.

 

P.s Tarq57. No Your not far off I,d have to go to school for 8 years to be able to understand puters fer dummies, hehe

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Andavari, I assume when You say standard that means the level of security which is set all the way to the left ( Normal ) thats where I left it, & is the only kinda setting I can find.

 

Yeah Standard = Normal, it's been at least 2 or 3 weeks since I went back to using AVG Free so I didn't remember the exact word listed in Avast.

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One thing to check: Right click on the Avast icon, select VRDB, and check that it's set to generate database only when the computer is idle. If it is already set to do that, try turning it off. If that solves the problem, maybe leave it off, but set aside some time, say once a week, to do it manually. (There is a faq in this VRDB dialogue box, too)

 

PS how much RAM is there, and what is the CPU?

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Hey Tarq57. Thanks I,m trying what you suggested. I have 512mb memory I believe. but it only shows 222mb, not really sure why, but pcpitstop tests said it wasn,t a problem. & intel celeron 3.06GHs. in task mgr it shows ( physical memory 227760- kernel memory 42592 ) & cpu usage runs about 6% unless netzero is doing its thing.

Is this the info You wanted ? I had 3 freezes in 15 minutes, very unusuall & since I disabled VRDB & No problems as of yet, But But I thought it was fixed several hundred times so we,ll see. thanks again & I,ll let You know. Cowboy

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PS how much RAM is there, and what is the CPU?

 

Sorry to butt in here, I know I've been MIA. But! I do think these are good questions. and the first thing to check. It seems that the RAM and CPU are okay, although the RAM could be increased....512MB is the minimum in my opinion.

 

Cowboy my next suggestion is that you run a memtest on your memory cards to confirm that they aren't bad in any way.

 

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

 

 

One more thing? What is your pagefile set at?

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Hey Krit86lr, I,ve allready run every test possible. No problems anywhere. I see pagefile in TM but dont know where to look for how or where its set. But no more freezes since I made that last change. Just waiting to see. Thanks. I,ll do some more looking. Cowboy

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Hey Krit86lr, I,ve allready run every test possible. No problems anywhere. I see pagefile in TM but dont know where to look for how or where its set. But no more freezes since I made that last change. Just waiting to see. Thanks. I,ll do some more looking. Cowboy

 

:lol: Well it's impossible that you have run every test possible. ;) The memtest checks your actual hardware, and you have to create a floppy to run the test and the test should run anywhere from 2-8 hours, preferably 8 hours. But I can appreciate the fact that you have ran lots of tests and feels like all of them.

 

Glad it's not freezing! Hope it stays that way. :)

 

Glad to see you are still on the forum Cowboy. :D

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Sorry to butt in here,

 

Please don't be! I'm far from expert. Geek101, approx. :blink:

 

Cowboy, to find pagefile, aka virtual memory, open control panel, open "system", click on "advanced" tab, under "performance", click on "settings", a new box "performance options" will open, at the bottom of that is listed "total paging file size for all drives". Click on "change", and the pf for each drive should be listed. What are they? (The default setting in XP is generally good, and should be approx 150% of your RAM. Don't change it yet, unless it's set to zero , in which case set it to system managed size.)

I would be concerned that you think you should have 512mB, yet 222 is indicated. That sounds like defective RAM or a defective slot, and is reasonably easilly and cheaply repairable, if that proves to be the problem. We'll only know for sure after you've run the memtest posted by krit86lr.

 

Let us know! Good luck.

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Yep, if the memtest doesn't show any errors then maybe one or more stick is incompatible assuming more mem was added by the user.

 

@ Cowboy....Did you add more memory to your computer?

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OK, 3 freezes in 15 minutes again this morning. & Krit Your right I,ve never run that type of memory test.

# 1 I,m to friggen stupid, #2 I cant keep the damn thing from freezing when I get in the middle of something like that. I click on the link You provided & it freezes.

Ok, Now heres what it shows. Total page file size. 336MB. virtual memory, C-336-672 , Space available, 74571 MB , Custom size is checked with a green dot, Initial 336MB, Maximum, 672 MB, Total minimum 2MB, recomended, 333MB, currently, 336MB,

& I have not added more memory, But it came with 512 ram, What next & thanks For trying to help, ALL of You, Cowboy

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OK, 3 freezes in 15 minutes again this morning. & Krit Your right I,ve never run that type of memory test.

# 1 I,m to friggen stupid, #2 I cant keep the damn thing from freezing when I get in the middle of something like that. I click on the link You provided & it freezes.

Ok, Now heres what it shows. Total page file size. 336MB. virtual memory, C-336-672 , Space available, 74571 MB , Custom size is checked with a green dot, Initial 336MB, Maximum, 672 MB, Total minimum 2MB, recomended, 333MB, currently, 336MB,

& I have not added more memory, But it came with 512 ram, What next & thanks For trying to help, ALL of You, Cowboy

 

Well the your comp probably won't freeze while running the test becuase it will run off of the floppy rather than your computer running it.

 

You just need to access the link, download, then create the floppy with the downloaded file. :blink: Don't know if that's possible though if it's freezing that much. Maybe your wife can download it at work for you maybe?

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OK, Krit86lr,

 

I got it printed out, & downloaded. Thankyou.

Now I have to see if I can figure out how to get it copyed to the floppy.

So I,ll let You know how it goes. Thanks again. Cowboy.

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OK, Krit86lr,

 

I got it printed out, & downloaded. Thankyou.

Now I have to see if I can figure out how to get it copyed to the floppy.

So I,ll let You know how it goes. Thanks again. Cowboy.

 

Good! Just put the floppy in, then double-click the .exe file that you downloaded. It will create your floppy for you! :)

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Allrighty then,Krit86lr & All .

I ran the memory test ( around 150 passes or so. then rebooted & did the more complex one. ( For lack of a better word ) total around 5 hours. with both. NO errors found. Do I need to do it for the full 8 hours?( cuz i sit here babysitting thru the whole test) . Just so I could see what it did , Or found.

Anyway, once again I,m lost. what else could it be ? other than doing the clean install. ( which I,m holding off on,) till I get something other than Netzero. Because I want NO trace of it on the puter ,if I have to go thru all the windows updates again. Thanks for your help once again. Cowboy

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Good! Just put the floppy in, then double-click the .exe file that you downloaded. It will create your floppy for you! :)

 

Yup! And since the computer is freezing so much it may be a good idea to start the memory test just before you go to bed and let it run all night long. One thing in the Microsoft Memory Diagnostic Test is to enable the Full/Thorough method (don't remember the actual wording) that way it can do a more thorough test of your system RAM.

 

It also wouldn't hurt to do a secondary RAM test using Memtest86+ (freeware), which I don't know if it's any better than the one from Microsoft although it is typically highly recommended on various forums for testing RAM. It also wouldn't hurt to download and run HD Tune (freeware) to test the S.M.A.R.T. status of your hard disks - this has been recommended on here before by DJLizard the author of Dial-a-fix.

 

Then again random crashing can also be because of loose cables or loose components inside your PC case! A few years ago when my old Win98 computer crashed every few minutes and was causing file corruption galore I was told on the Hydrogenaudio.org forums by CiTay to unplug everything inside the PC case, and to then plug it back in - and sure enough it stopped the crashing and file corruption.

 

Edit:

If you do open your PC case please be safe by doing things in this order before poking around inside it:

  1. Unplug your PC from the wall outlet.

  2. Press and hold for at least 10 seconds the PC's Power On button, this will drain out any remaining electricity inside the components which could still electrocute you if not drained first.

  3. With the PC case off ground yourself, if you don't have a grounding kit typically touching the metal chassis inside the PC case is enough to stop static discharges when you touch the components. Static discharges can damage the components hence the reason to ground yourself.

 

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OK , Andavari, I know Youre more familiar with My problem then most. & thanks for all of your help & suggestions. But, I have done everything Everyone has suggested. ran every test I can think of. & nothing shows any hardware problems, virus, spyware or anything else.

This puter is about a year or 2 old. The only reason I had a problem to begin with, was The Guy put a pirated copy of windows XP Pro, on it. I never hada freeze. & only had virus or spyware problems. at the begining because I . was EVEN dumber than I am now. & purchased No-Adware, online. which was full of trojans , dialers, & spyware.

Thanks to Andy Manchesta, I was able to resolve those problems. THEN. I tryed to do windows updates, & within a matter of a few hours I got the blue screen of death. & was perty much called a liar, when I explained what caused it. ( Thanks Tarun & Bill Gates, AKA , windows genuine authentication update. ) I then bought windows home XP, SP2, Did a clean install, then put my netzero disk in so I could update windows, & have had freezing problems ever since.

I have disabled net zeros turbocache. & found a way to block there ads, that constantly disconneceted Me when They wanted to force feed them to Me.

Then They called Me at home , computer generated ads to do this or that.

I have since changed My phone #, & now receive 2 or 3 emails daily from them , ( early morning only ) which I never open just delete.

This starts the crashes. Mostley if I do anything with My mail.

Like when I get a ccleaner notifacation, someone responded, I click to open that & instant freeze.

So I guess My point is Why everybody is discounting the fact, THIS could be My ONLY problem.

I know it sucks, but at this point I have no other options but net *****************.

I,m sorry I,m rambling, venting or whatever. but It really sucks when Your paying 14.95 a month for the worse virus & spyware. I couldn,t catch on purpose if I wanted to.

Anyway, I appologise thanks for letting Me vent, & hopefully this piece of chit will crash before I get this sent. Thanks to all for Your help. Sincerely Cowboy.

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If NetZero is the cause I'd personally check out PeoplePC, or Netscape. Both are around the same price as NetZero depending upon how many gimmicky features you get.

 

From my previous experiences with NetZero I would never use it again!

 

I used to personally use Netscape Internet Service before I got DSL and didn't ever have one problem with it - but then again I didn't use their software either after I grabbed the dial-up numbers from it and then uninstalled it, and then used good ole' Microsoft Dial-Up Networking which is built into Windows to connect to the Internet.

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