Moderators mta Posted April 12, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 12, 2013 nice tutorial Andavari, thanks. might be worth placing in it's own thread so as to help others and not have it lost amongst this thread. Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted April 12, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 12, 2013 Good plan mta, I've moved it into the Hardware forum to save it from obscurity. And in case anyone is wondering what we're talking about, it's a guide to restoring DMA Mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 It is a tedious process, no pun intended. You need to let the system settle down into a quiescent state. Then you look at each and every process. You use google to research each one of those processes. You make note of the ones consuming high amounts of CPU resources. Also look at overall memory usage. If you have 2GB ram, for example, there should be generally no more than 10-20% ram in use right after the system settles down. Just look at the graph. My system has 34 processes, each one accounted for. And 256mb when the system goes idle. Each computer is different. So these are guidelines. Report back with any anomalies. All processes seem to be bona fide. None using high amounts of CPU. % ram low in all instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted April 12, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 12, 2013 If it was me I would use the startup tab in msconfig and untick everything and reboot. Then I would add one thing back at a time to the startup (rebooting each time) til I found the culprit. Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 If it was me I would use the startup tab in msconfig and untick everything and reboot. Then I would add one thing back at a time to the startup (rebooting each time) til I found the culprit. I thought CCleaner was supposed to sort out the Startup in Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moriez Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I thought CCleaner was supposed to sort out the Startup in Tools It's the first time I see that tab LOL! Ccleaner would not do this automatically but it looks like that would do the same as using msconfig directly. Up to you which items to disable. Some will be crucial for correct functioning of your hard/software. Here's a website that can help you: http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_search.php In the end, you can do all this but not gain a lot from it. Consider re-installing Windows if you keep having troubles. Might save you time and energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted April 13, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 13, 2013 It's the first time I see that tab LOL! Ccleaner would not do this automatically but it looks like that would do the same as using msconfig directly. Yes, however minus msconfig requesting a system restart, and also minus the msconfig warning dialog shown immediately after startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 Any other suggestions, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted April 14, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 14, 2013 Did you try the suggestion about disabling all start up items and re-enabling them one by one? Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_B Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Perhaps it is just a coincidence that slow downs happened after running CCleaner Try Autoruns from Systernals. This finds all sorts of things that might be launched on startup. It found that DropBox had hooked into my operating system, and when I looked at Windows Event Viewer I found the very first event every morning after booting up - long before I could logg on, was a DropBox executable phoning home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted April 15, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2013 Could you tell us how many items you have running at start up. We really want to help but need certain info to do it. Perhaps a screenshot of you start ups in ccleaner would give us some clues. Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 Could you tell us how many items you have running at start up. We really want to help but need certain info to do it. Perhaps a screenshot of you start ups in ccleaner would give us some clues. How do I paste or link a screen shot in a post? Which tab in Start up do you want a screenshot of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 It found that DropBox had hooked into my operating system, and when I looked at Windows Event Viewer I found the very first event every morning after booting up - long before I could logg on, was a DropBox executable phoning home. This could possibly be the culprit. I installed Dropbox a month or two ago. How do I deal with it ? I need Dropbox for a group that I have joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_B Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 DropBox did this to me years ago - it might be better behaved now. Whatever AutoRuns finds is auto-starting it gives you the options to disable or to remove. I first disabled all Dropbox entries and that cured the problems but crippled the use of DropBox. I could have fine-tuned which entries to re-enable for adequate operation, and I could have deleted the really bad entries - but decided it was not worth the effort so I uninstalled the Dropbox application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keatah Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Having one bad task running, and optimizing and removing others in effort to regain former performance usually doesn't work. You still need to fix the original cancer. Try looking through Process Monitor - from the same guys that did AutoRuns. A realtime view I really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted April 15, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2013 CCleaner....tools...startup. You can take a screenshot of it and either add the jpg or png file to a post by pressing the ''More reply options'' button which appears at the bottom of a post when you are writing it. Or go to an image hosting site, upload it to there and copy and paste the link to it that you are given for it into a post. Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 CCleaner....tools...startup. You can take a screenshot of it and either add the jpg or png file to a post by pressing the ''More reply options'' button which appears at the bottom of a post when you are writing it. Or go to an image hosting site, upload it to there and copy and paste the link to it that you are given for it into a post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 Having one bad task running, and optimizing and removing others in effort to regain former performance usually doesn't work. You still need to fix the original cancer. Try looking through Process Monitor - from the same guys that did AutoRuns. A realtime view I really like. Thanks for the suggestion. I downloaded the program but it needs a lot of study and application and I don't have the time for the long learning curve it obviously entails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 but decided it was not worth the effort so I uninstalled the Dropbox application. I don't have this option - I've got to have Dropbox to communicate with other members of the group I belong to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keatah Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I see 3 security programs that could potentially conflict with each other. Whether that is actually happening here, I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted April 15, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2013 Also look into this, a known culprit: http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=38431 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keatah Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 What aspect of the system is running slow? Slow disk access? Slow FPS in games? Sluggish mouse & keyboard? Which application has slowed significantly? All? Something specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted April 15, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2013 What aspect of the system is running slow? Slow disk access? Slow FPS in games? Sluggish mouse & keyboard? Which application has slowed significantly? All? Something specific? http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=38410entry233134 Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keatah Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 So then we need to focus on disk activity. Kill the security programs one by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raycer Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 I see 3 security programs that could potentially conflict with each other. Whether that is actually happening here, I do not know. As I mentioned in post 20, I've had these 3 security programs installed in my PC for several years without any problem with slow running before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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