agumon Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 i am currently learning J2ME (Java 2 Platform, Micro Edition) programming using J2ME Wireless Toolkit 2.2... some of my classmates said Java will soon die out... and will be replace by microsoft own programming language such as J# etc... so what you guys think about it...? --==aGumon==-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjLizard Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 They'll fight neck and neck for the rest of our lives, like IE vs. Netscape. .NET et al are good when you need a managed app, like server stuff, but not for writing client-only apps (hence the name NET) and java is already out there and applicable on many mobile devices... the same cannot be said for .NET et al. Click here if CCleaner Issues are re-appearing DjLizard.net DjLizard.net wiki Dial-a-fix Dial-a-fix tips DjLizard.net software support forum Do you live in Bradenton, Sarasota, Tampa, or St. Petersburg, Florida? Visit Digital Doctors where I work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted June 9, 2005 Moderators Share Posted June 9, 2005 I personally have never liked using Java based app's because they always seemed rather sluggish, of course that was based upon my usage of them on my Win98 system. I also don't like .NET app's especially after using ATI's display drivers that have the ATI control panel which is .NET based. Since I know how it reacts with my system I now only use the standard Windows GUI styled ATI control panel driver. The sluggish performance seems as if it'll bring my WinXP Pro system to a halt, even though my system has 1 GB Ram & a 3.2 Ghz P4 w/HT, hence the reason I avoid them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I personally have never liked using Java based app's because they always seemed rather sluggish, of course that was based upon my usage of them on my Win98 system. I also don't like .NET app's especially after using ATI's display drivers that have the ATI control panel which is .NET based. Since I know how it reacts with my system I now only use the standard Windows GUI styled ATI control panel driver. The sluggish performance seems as if it'll bring my WinXP Pro system to a halt, even though my system has 1 GB Ram & a 3.2 Ghz P4 w/HT, hence the reason I avoid them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Same on my 3.4 GHz P4 HT with 2GB RAM. So I just install the drivers that come without that junky Control Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjLizard Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Well, that is just ONE .NET application, and as I stated, it is not recommended to write client-side-only apps in .NET, and for what it's worth, .NET is pretty OK. agumon is *programming* in Java, and that is a pretty cool portable language for slim devices. Click here if CCleaner Issues are re-appearing DjLizard.net DjLizard.net wiki Dial-a-fix Dial-a-fix tips DjLizard.net software support forum Do you live in Bradenton, Sarasota, Tampa, or St. Petersburg, Florida? Visit Digital Doctors where I work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldmannen Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 What is good with Java is that it is portable. But it sucks that the apps with GUI's in Java are ugly. I never really liked Java but I guess the language as-is is pretty okay. But Sun, the company behind Java is evil. Java is not really free. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agumon Posted June 11, 2005 Author Share Posted June 11, 2005 i dont know... but the lessons are boring... --==aGumon==-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldmannen Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Maybe you dont enjoy programming or maybe you dont apprecite Java and its syntax or something. Or maybe you dont enjoy lessons and like more experiment yourself. There are many languages depending on what you want todo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agumon Posted June 12, 2005 Author Share Posted June 12, 2005 Maybe you dont enjoy programming or maybe you dont apprecite Java and its syntax or something not really... i like programming in visual basic.NET and C#.NET (currently learning ASP.NET) --==aGumon==-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldmannen Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 You're learning the wrong languages, heh. J2ME is quite cool, I have thought about learning that too, it would be nice to make applications for cellphones. Visual Basic, I started programming in that, the good thing is that its RAD (Rapid Application Developement), but you probably should stay away from VB, because it just gets you locked to one platform. C-Sharp (C#) is more powerful than VB, but here you get locked to a playform too. And for ASP you get locked to a platform too. PHP is a much greater alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agumon Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 Visual Basic, I started programming in that, the good thing is that its RAD (Rapid Application Developement), but you probably should stay away from VB, because it just gets you locked to one platform. C-Sharp (C#) is more powerful than VB, but here you get locked to a playform too. what do you meant by "locked"? --==aGumon==-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjLizard Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 the same thing he means every single time he posts anywhere; it is not free, it is not free, it is not free and open source, linus torvalds and stallman don't do body shots of vodka off him, so it must not be worthy of use anywhere in the free world. Click here if CCleaner Issues are re-appearing DjLizard.net DjLizard.net wiki Dial-a-fix Dial-a-fix tips DjLizard.net software support forum Do you live in Bradenton, Sarasota, Tampa, or St. Petersburg, Florida? Visit Digital Doctors where I work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agumon Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 well... nevermind then... i still felt that the lessons are boring... i prefer attending my vb.NET lessons... --==aGumon==-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Did you know VB6 > VB.NET? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agumon Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 vb.NET... --==aGumon==-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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