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For the last 3 days Windows Defender Definition Updates (through Automatic Updates) have all failed with the error message: "Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB2267602 (Definition 1.239.688.0) - Error 0x80070643" Launching the Defender UI and updating definitions from there does work OK. I haven't made any changes to the system, but I have noticed that Windows itself is running scans and creating various 'Compatability" and other logs this week. Presumably it is doing this to prepare for the Creators Update due next week. With Windows 10 Defender is part of the OS and so you can't uninstall/reinstall to try and repair errors. What I've tried up to now- Turned of all other real time malware protection except defender (MBAM v2, MBAE v1.09). Update still fails. Run sfc/scannow from an elevated command prompt. (no issues found). Windows update problems can often be related to NET framework, so: Run the NET framework repair tool from MS. (Said it found issues but couldn't resolve them, automatically sent logs to MS). Obviously various reboots and restarts during all this. Rebooted in Safe mode with Networking. Couldn't even get to Windows updates in the settings, the settings screen just closes itself when tried. I may try a restore point next, or may not. If it is something MS have snafu'd in the lead up to the Creators Update then it'll just do it again after the restore. It's no biggie, but I just wondered if anyone else is seeing this problem?

Did you totally clean out Chrome from your computer? Just Uninstalling it is not enough on it's own, Chrome is very persistent and uninstalling it still leaves files, folders, and registry entries behind It could be that Ccleaner is seeing these old folders or reg entries. Take a look at this video guide to getting rid of Chrome completely:

I still think the Google TiSP was the best one. I hear that they are going to start doing fibre broadband in the UK this year. TiSP2?

You guys have realised what date it is today?

52.0.2 has been released. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/52.0.2/releasenotes/

Careful, you don't want a spider bite on your thingy.

"Complete" cleaning simply means that the pro version can clean up all user accounts on a PC at once when run from an admin account The free version only cleans up the one user account that it is run from. (So if there is more than one user account on your PC then you would need to run it seperately from each user account to clean that account). There is no difference to the cleaning process itself, just which user account(s) it can clean at a time. Many people agree that "Complete Cleaning" is not the best term that could have been used for this function. "All Account Cleaning" may have been a better choice.

It may be something to do with the new login warnings with FFx 52 https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Protect-your-privacy/Insecure-password-warning-in-Firefox/ta-p/27861 But just to be sure first, have you unticked 'Saved passwords' in the Firefox section of CCleaner?

To paraphrase a couple of quotes - "We did it because it was there to be done" "Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it"

If it's saying 100% defragmented then there is nothing to be defragged so what action were you expecting? The System Reserved Partition doesn't need defragging - it does not affect system performance in the slightest. It is a very small partition that contains boot information, once you are booted it does not affect anything else. http://windowssecrets.com/forums/showthread.php/174296-quot-System-Reserved-quot-partition-won-t-defragment I'm not sure if you can normally defrag the System Reserved Partition anyway, because it does not normally have a drive letter. You may need to give it a drive letter before you can (try to) defrag it. http://www.thewindowsclub.com/system-reserved-partition-windows If you realy want to try then you could try doing a boot time defrag first. (I've used this in the past to defrag the pagefile and other system files that don't normally get defragged because they are in use by Windows). Because this runs before Windows is initialised it can defrag the files that Windows itself uses and are nornally locked from defragging. In Defraggler go to 'Settings' and select 'Boot time Defrag' from the menu. ('Run Once' should give you an idea if it will defrag the System Reserved partition). Then shutdown and reboot your computer. Check to see if the partition has been defragged. But you say that yours is already 100% defragmented, so I don't know what difference you would see anyway?

This Password warning/blocking behavour will not change. (The warning message/pop-up itself may change slightly, and the vBulletin HTTPS issue may be fixed). But overall this warning/blocking is an intended feature and not a bug, so as far as Mozilla are concerned there is nothing to be 'fixed' and it will remain.

There is a checkbox during the download procedure. It is pre-ticked and you have to untick it, maybe not ideal but that's the way the world works these days. Lots of downloads offer additional software. It's up to you to check every stage before you click the 'continue', 'next', or 'OK' buttons. If you don't see the checkbox for Chrome then that is probably because you already have some Chrome components or references somewhere on your computer. These could be 'hidden' in the registry or elsewhere. If you do already have these then you will not be offered Chrome again as the downloader thinks you already have it.

Good to hear that I'm not the only one who saw this as a problem, and great that toggling the setting worked for you as well. My real beef was that Mozilla pushed this out without any warning to users who are not in their insider/development/beta club. They didn't even mention it in the original release notes. They have added it now but it still doesn't say that it will totally block some logins, just that it will display a warning PS. you might want to change you Firefox update settings to 'Check for updates' instead of 'Automatically install updates'. PPS. That one where it had seemed to change the password at the forum gets even stranger. The password had not been changed at all, but for some reason Firefox wouldn't let me login there until I changed the password and changed it back again. Guess we'll never track down what caused that, and will just chalk it up as a WTF?

Always good advice. But we are pretty sure that this was not from a third party, and that it is something that Mozilla did in the update. Finding evidence of that is a different question. No way am I trying to call mozilla names for this. (Unless we can find evidence). Obviously we have stopped Mod (and all other) privileges on that account and are keeping an eye on any future login attempts. Just a bit of a pain when you have 12 years plus posts from the account.

I got it direct from Mozilla, when Firefox came up with the usual upgrade popup and I clicked on the 'Upgrade Now' button. Like I said above I've got the autofill of usernames and passwords in forms working now by going to about:config and toggling 'signon.autofillForms.http' from false to true. The actual warning notice itself and the blocking seem to be controlled by 'security.insecure_field_warning.contextual.enabled' and 'security.insecure_password.ui.enabled'. However if I toggle these to false to get rid of the warnings then logins are blocked altogether. (I suspect that this is intentional- either warning or blocked altgether). Even odder- The one site that I reported as still being blocked seems to have had had the password changed at the forum itself. Once I did the 'Forgotten Password' thing to get a new password I was able to login to it with that new password, and to change it back to my previous, saved password. It now logs in from Firefox with that previously saved password again. This is a bit incredible to say the least and I'm not sure just how Firefox could even have done that. I am still investigating that one with the forum administrator there, he should be able to retrieve any password changes made to check if Firefox did somehow manage to change the password. I certainly hadn't. I suspect though that it is something deeper, I should also have not been able to reset it to a previously used password, the forum software will not allow that. (I mod there, so I login to that site 2 or 3 times daily using the password saved in Firefox some time ago).

Well I've now fiddled with the Firefox config. settings and got the auto filling of login forms working again for all my vBulletin and Xenforo sites except one. That one may be doing something slightly different because it is the one where I am a Super Moderator. I'm still getting the warnings but I can live with that for now. I tried turning them off in config. but that just blocked logins altogether again. And yes I have sent some snotty feedback to mozilla.

It seems like this behaviour has been intended, and has been being worked on, for a while. It is not regarded as a bug by the developers, but as a 'good thing'. So don't expect it to be changed unless they start to get a LOT of complaints. OK, I can sort of see the point of it, for users who don't know the risks, but why force it on all users without any warning, and with no easy way to turn it off? The password field warning bit itself is not too bad. But blocking the associated autofill passwords within forms is a pain for me. (and quite a few others from what I have been reading). Instead of 2 clicks to login to my favourite forums it's now taking 5 or 6, and maybe some typing. Anyway I have found (some of) the Firefox config. settings to disable this behavour and am playing about with them. Trouble is I keep running out of login attempts on VB forums and having to wait 15 mins for them to reset. LOL. And of course not everybody is going to be comfortable with going into the config. settings, as the warning page says "Here be Dragons".

So this is what I am seeing: https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Protect-your-privacy/Insecure-password-warning-in-Firefox/ta-p/27861 FFx 52 is not just blocking HTTP sites either, it's also blocking HTTPS sites. But as I say, funny that they are all vBulletin based forums. (EDIT: Just found it doing the same with a Xenforo based forum, but Xenforo is also a development of VB). I have managed to login to some of my favourites now, but it's a PITA I could do without. (You have to click on the username shown in the warning, you can't even enter it by hand). And just to double check I tried a site that I know is an "insecure" HTTP, my council website where I have an account. No problem with my saved name and 2 levels of passwords there, all filled in automatically. So it seems that this new 'Security Measure' is not blocking all HTTP like it says it will, but it is blocking all vBulletin even when they are HTTPS. Anyway - Since when did Mozilla become the Internet Police? Remember we are talking about Fora here, it's not like we will be entering credit card details or anything. I'm off to do some more research, and maybe complain to Mozilla.

And the first problem is......... After updating to 52.0 some, not all, of my saved usernames and passwords are not filled in automatically. It seems to be only vBulletin based forums that are affected, others that are based on alternative software, such as this one, are fine. They are still in the saved password list, they are just not populating the logins automatically. Restart / reboot has no effect. It seems that FFx 52 is blocking these websites, odd that they are all vBulletin based forums. When I try to enter my username/password manually I get the message: "This connection is not secure. Logins entered here may be compromised. Learn More" And I am unable to even login manually. Way to go FFx 52.0 you have locked me out of some of my favourite websites. I'm still investigating.

Thank you, that is what I expected the answer would be. It explains why your screenshots do not show the optional download screen. You still had/have some Chrome related entries in your registry (or elsewhere) and so the downloader assumed you already had it and did not offer it to you again. And yes, I know you said you uninstalled Chrome - but it's not that easy. I once installed Chrome to try it out, decided I didn't like it, and it took around 2 days to completely get rid of it. (and I'm still not sure I got everything). Chrome is very persistent, once installed you can't just uninstall it, uninstalling is only the first step of completely removing Chrome. Try Googling 'Completely remove Chrome' for help. To start with heres a step by step guide, and a video guide, to fully removing Chrome. (Although you might want to leave it as is so that you don't get the optional offer again?) http://www.repairwin.com/how-to-remove-google-chrome-completely-from-your-computer/

Thanks Dennis, Still no replies on Malwaerbytes forum, will put this as a link there.

I'm still asking the same question?

You have still not explained just why you were taking screenshots of every stage of the process BEFORE you got the alleged unwanted 'silent' Chrome download.

So you decided to take screenshots of every screen BEFORE you even began/started? Why? Did you have an agenda? OR If you had already downloaded Chrome (by mistake) before you took those screenshots then of course they would not show an option to download it again, you already had it.

Thanks Dennis, I also suspect that it may be the call logs, and that Malwarebytes for Mobile is just being a bit too careful when reporting that CC could record calls. (Reporting CC can access files should be sufficient for the call logs) I put the same question on the Malwarebytes user forum but have not had any replies there as yet. Just for info here is a screenshot.