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Always good advice. But we are pretty sure that this was not from a third party, and that it is something that Mozilla did in the update. Finding evidence of that is a different question. No way am I trying to call mozilla names for this. (Unless we can find evidence). Obviously we have stopped Mod (and all other) privileges on that account and are keeping an eye on any future login attempts. Just a bit of a pain when you have 12 years plus posts from the account.

I got it direct from Mozilla, when Firefox came up with the usual upgrade popup and I clicked on the 'Upgrade Now' button. Like I said above I've got the autofill of usernames and passwords in forms working now by going to about:config and toggling 'signon.autofillForms.http' from false to true. The actual warning notice itself and the blocking seem to be controlled by 'security.insecure_field_warning.contextual.enabled' and 'security.insecure_password.ui.enabled'. However if I toggle these to false to get rid of the warnings then logins are blocked altogether. (I suspect that this is intentional- either warning or blocked altgether). Even odder- The one site that I reported as still being blocked seems to have had had the password changed at the forum itself. Once I did the 'Forgotten Password' thing to get a new password I was able to login to it with that new password, and to change it back to my previous, saved password. It now logs in from Firefox with that previously saved password again. This is a bit incredible to say the least and I'm not sure just how Firefox could even have done that. I am still investigating that one with the forum administrator there, he should be able to retrieve any password changes made to check if Firefox did somehow manage to change the password. I certainly hadn't. I suspect though that it is something deeper, I should also have not been able to reset it to a previously used password, the forum software will not allow that. (I mod there, so I login to that site 2 or 3 times daily using the password saved in Firefox some time ago).

Well I've now fiddled with the Firefox config. settings and got the auto filling of login forms working again for all my vBulletin and Xenforo sites except one. That one may be doing something slightly different because it is the one where I am a Super Moderator. I'm still getting the warnings but I can live with that for now. I tried turning them off in config. but that just blocked logins altogether again. And yes I have sent some snotty feedback to mozilla.

It seems like this behaviour has been intended, and has been being worked on, for a while. It is not regarded as a bug by the developers, but as a 'good thing'. So don't expect it to be changed unless they start to get a LOT of complaints. OK, I can sort of see the point of it, for users who don't know the risks, but why force it on all users without any warning, and with no easy way to turn it off? The password field warning bit itself is not too bad. But blocking the associated autofill passwords within forms is a pain for me. (and quite a few others from what I have been reading). Instead of 2 clicks to login to my favourite forums it's now taking 5 or 6, and maybe some typing. Anyway I have found (some of) the Firefox config. settings to disable this behavour and am playing about with them. Trouble is I keep running out of login attempts on VB forums and having to wait 15 mins for them to reset. LOL. And of course not everybody is going to be comfortable with going into the config. settings, as the warning page says "Here be Dragons".

So this is what I am seeing: https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Protect-your-privacy/Insecure-password-warning-in-Firefox/ta-p/27861 FFx 52 is not just blocking HTTP sites either, it's also blocking HTTPS sites. But as I say, funny that they are all vBulletin based forums. (EDIT: Just found it doing the same with a Xenforo based forum, but Xenforo is also a development of VB). I have managed to login to some of my favourites now, but it's a PITA I could do without. (You have to click on the username shown in the warning, you can't even enter it by hand). And just to double check I tried a site that I know is an "insecure" HTTP, my council website where I have an account. No problem with my saved name and 2 levels of passwords there, all filled in automatically. So it seems that this new 'Security Measure' is not blocking all HTTP like it says it will, but it is blocking all vBulletin even when they are HTTPS. Anyway - Since when did Mozilla become the Internet Police? Remember we are talking about Fora here, it's not like we will be entering credit card details or anything. I'm off to do some more research, and maybe complain to Mozilla.

And the first problem is......... After updating to 52.0 some, not all, of my saved usernames and passwords are not filled in automatically. It seems to be only vBulletin based forums that are affected, others that are based on alternative software, such as this one, are fine. They are still in the saved password list, they are just not populating the logins automatically. Restart / reboot has no effect. It seems that FFx 52 is blocking these websites, odd that they are all vBulletin based forums. When I try to enter my username/password manually I get the message: "This connection is not secure. Logins entered here may be compromised. Learn More" And I am unable to even login manually. Way to go FFx 52.0 you have locked me out of some of my favourite websites. I'm still investigating.

Thank you, that is what I expected the answer would be. It explains why your screenshots do not show the optional download screen. You still had/have some Chrome related entries in your registry (or elsewhere) and so the downloader assumed you already had it and did not offer it to you again. And yes, I know you said you uninstalled Chrome - but it's not that easy. I once installed Chrome to try it out, decided I didn't like it, and it took around 2 days to completely get rid of it. (and I'm still not sure I got everything). Chrome is very persistent, once installed you can't just uninstall it, uninstalling is only the first step of completely removing Chrome. Try Googling 'Completely remove Chrome' for help. To start with heres a step by step guide, and a video guide, to fully removing Chrome. (Although you might want to leave it as is so that you don't get the optional offer again?) http://www.repairwin.com/how-to-remove-google-chrome-completely-from-your-computer/

Thanks Dennis, Still no replies on Malwaerbytes forum, will put this as a link there.

I'm still asking the same question?

You have still not explained just why you were taking screenshots of every stage of the process BEFORE you got the alleged unwanted 'silent' Chrome download.

So you decided to take screenshots of every screen BEFORE you even began/started? Why? Did you have an agenda? OR If you had already downloaded Chrome (by mistake) before you took those screenshots then of course they would not show an option to download it again, you already had it.

Thanks Dennis, I also suspect that it may be the call logs, and that Malwarebytes for Mobile is just being a bit too careful when reporting that CC could record calls. (Reporting CC can access files should be sufficient for the call logs) I put the same question on the Malwarebytes user forum but have not had any replies there as yet. Just for info here is a screenshot.

You would have though that with many Android tablets and smartphones in use that the userbase must be comparable to Windows by now. Maybe Piriform should look at making documentation available a priority if they want more Android users onboard? Looking on here people have been asking for documenation for a couple of years now. One more interesting thing, I also put MalwareBytes for android on the phone, and on a privacy check it informs me that as well as CCleaner being being able to access files etc., which is fair enough, CCleaner is able to monitor and even record calls? Why would a file cleaner need to monitor/record calls? It may be an FP, I will have to check with MB, but any comment on that from Piriform?

Well it ran OK with the settings I made and didn't clear my saved passwords, call logs, or SMS's. Would still prefer some documentation rather than having to trial and error those options, and others. Without any documentation it would be easy to clear something you didn't mean to. For instance just what cleaning would delete the passwords? Would clearing the data storage of Chrome in the 'Manual cleaning apps' section do it? The other thing I noticed is that it took several Analyse-Clean cycles to fully clean, and even then the last ##Mb remnants did not clean until the CC app was closed. (Checked by reopening and analysing straight away, they were gone). It did remove the cookies for my favourite websites (including this one) so that the layouts are not as I prefer them but have been reset to default. Fair enough, but it would be nice to be able to exclude these from cleaning as you can in the Windows version. All in all its on the phone now, but I'm not sure how often I'll be using it until I can work out just what it is doing and what the options do. Someone at Piriform must have some kind of documentation, even if only the devs so they know what the options are supposed to do.

So I decided to put CC on my Android phone. What a pain it the.... Created a google account. (Didn't already have one). Went to the play store. Found Ccleaner, go for the install button. "Re-enter your password" - OK did that got sent back to the install screen. Press the install button. Nothing happens. Press the install button. "please re-enter your password", put it in again. Get thrown back to the 'My Account' screen. Can't get away from the ***** thing. Round and round again. Everything you try just asks for the password again and goes back to the 'My Account' screen. OK - close the browser and end task on it. Lets try the Google Shopping app. Find the icon, put it onscreen, open the app. As soon as it opens it throws up 'Item not found'. (What **** item?). Ah, there's a spyglass top right, must be a search box. Yes- type in ccleaner and get a choice of 5 answers, go for the top one. A different install page comes up, press on install. Now it wants me to register a credit card, for a free app. Cancel that. Get a notification that 'App will be downloaded and installed'. Close browser and there is a Ccleaner icon onscreen. Success at last. I realise that this is probably mostly the Google Play Store messing about, but it was still a pain. Now have to check out the Ccleaner Android settings, don't want to delete my saved passwords, call logs, or old sms messages by mistake. Mmm, can't see an option for passwords, need to find and read the documentation. Oh, there doesn't seem to be any documentation, CCleaner, CCleaner for Mac, CCleaner Network are all there - but nothing for CCleaner for Android. I may report back later.

And does a 'Prada' handbag hold any more makeup than a Tesco handbag? If you want to pay over the top for the same thing then that's your stupid fault.

I don't know exactly but taking a couple of guesses: Could it be that you have been using the CPU intensively before launching Speccy which has made your CPU run hotter, but then stop using other programmes while you are watching speccy? Could it be that what you are seeing is Speccy itself using the CPU? When you run Speccy (or any other programme) it will initially use your CPU intensively and so the temperature goes up. Once it has done it's starting it doesn't use the CPU as much and so the temprature drops again. (10 degs. does seem a bit much for that though). You could try looking at the CPU utilisation using the task manager and see if this corresponds to the temperature fall in Speccy. When I launch Speccy the CPU utilisation briefly peaks at 100% and then falls off again to about 8%. If I do a similar thing with other programmes that go to 100% on start, then Speccy shows a corresponding temperature rise then fall again, but only by 1 degree or so. As I say those are just guesses, maybe someone else has more experience.

I actualy did this last weekend for a friends HP notebook with no problems at all. Ran CCleaner to remove temporary files. Ran various malware/adware scans and removed PUPs and PUMs, defragged etc. Updated it from Win10 1511 to Win10 1607. (AVG Free had been blocking Windows Updates for over a year, uninstalled AVG before updating). Rebooted and used CCleaner to remove the 'old windows' files. Laptop is now booting and running much faster than before. There should not be anything in the 'Windows.old' folder that is required by the current operating system. It's just a backup of the old version of windows that you have replaced. Windows will automatically delete this folder itself after a month. Did you maybe also run the Registry Cleaner in CC? This is much more likely to have 'broken' something if you removed a needed registry entry by mistake. That could also explain why the USB boot would not work.

Have you tried Irfanview? http://www.irfanview.com/ It can often open image files when costly, high end, photo viewers fail. No guarantees, but its free so you have nothing to loose by trying. Of course the photo files may actually be corrupted.

Is it one of these? https://archive.google.com/tisp/install.html

Yes it would. (Pretty sure I could even get it running on Win10). Problem is I have no idea what happened to the installation discs, think they got lost during a house move. I do have legal cheaper (and even free) 'clones' of the software on newer machines, but sometimes you just need the original. An up to date full version of the original now costs over £1,600 a year for a subscription. http://www.autodesk.co.uk/store/products/autocad?term=1month&support=advanced&mktvar002=knc_wwm_emea_uk_nc_ggl__autocad-exact&mkwid=sVpj1ANxn|pcrid|148464512812|pkw|autocad%20cost|pmt|e|pdv|c|&gclid=CJLJ9t_D_tECFdTnGwodvrgLRg You have to subscribe, you can't buy it outright anymore. No way I could justify paying that for something I now only use once or twice a year, I'll stick with what I have now.

Still got Win98 on an old tower, still use it now and again. I've CAD software on there that costs £££££'s to replace. I don't use the software often enough to justify paying to update, but use it enough to keep the old PC until it dies. (And you would need to be an expert user to tell the difference in the output between the old software and the latest version). I recently dug out an old 1995 CD for 'Lemmings', remember that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game) Bunged into the Windows 10 laptop to see what happened and it plays perfectly.

It seems everyone and his dog is offering you Cloud storage these days. MS, Google, your email provider, your domain hosting service, your computer manufacturer, your smartphone manufacturer, etc., etc. If you add it all up you probably have access to terrabytes of free cloud storage. Some even try to force you to use it. MS Notepad already defaults to OneDrive everytime you 'SaveAs', how long before Word, Excel, and other MS softwares start doing it too? Convinent off-site backup storage for your files. Makes syncing fies between devices easy. Can make sharing large files with people you trust easy. Etc. But like mta says nobody ever hacked my removable USB backup; unlike large server farms that get hacked frequently. You can bet that if someone is advertising 'Secure' Cloud storage then someone else is poking at it to see just how secure it is and what there is to steal. Of course you are probably using some cloud storage, and have been for years, even if you don't call it that. Your email will probably be saved on a server rather than your own machine. Your MS account details are stored on their servers,ditto for Google accounts, etc. Even if you don't have an account MS will probably have a 'snapshot' of your Windows machine to know what updates to offer/send you.

I see that the Piriform Android download page also give Amazon as an alternative download. Not sure if this is just for Kindle's though?? Razz, I didn't mean to put you off, it's just like anything else on the web, or in life as a whole. Good places, dodgy places. Check out what others that you trust say before you try them.

Officially yes you have to get it from Google Play. Unofficially you can download Android software from any APK provider. https://www.androidpit.com/android-for-beginners-what-is-an-apk-file There are APK versions of CCleaner out there Of course some APK providers are not going to be as trusted as official sites like Google Play, and some are going to be cowboys or worse. You may find that you are downloading some 'bundled' software as well as what you want, (in the worst cases you may be downloading a virus). Find one you trust, and use at your own risk.