mr don

Defraggler is quick if you do a quick defrag, but the full defrag does both files & free space. A lot of "fast" defraggers will perhaps just be doing a "quick" defrag instead of complete.

In addition to the following user's comment, the English dll does not exist because English is the native & default. You can safely delete the entire languages folder & Defraggler will still run. You can also delete the CMD version of it, along with Uninstall.exe etc. All you need is the defraggler & the .ini file it stores settings in to make the portable version.

If this idea were implemented at all, I think it would be much better to introduce that to Defraggler, as it would be a part of defragging a drive, so having a utility that would defrag the drive + the registry would complete the package. But I heard there may be problems with defragging the reg? However, it definitely would be a cool feature if added.

While a nice idea in concept, in practice, it would be a nightmare for the following reasons: - Truckloads of programs exist, & countless more will be invented. The update file for that extra feature alone would be enormous compared to CCleaner's size - Since malware can inject themselves in processes, label themselves as valid system properties, & even take over system functions, even a process list could get things wrong. What would happen if CCleaner falsely said a process was a "safe" system process, but some malware had injected itself into the process, thereby defeating the purpose of the check in the first place? Difficult to implement, large in size, constant update hassels, & should be something a separate utility would include, such as an anti-malware, security suite, etc. Hope this clears things up!

This could be caused by a number of things. Have you? - Updated to the latest CCleaner after a clean uninstall & a clean install? - Updated to the latest Defraggler after a clean uninstall & a clean install? - Ran CCleaner, then removed worthless startup items? - Run Nir Sofer's startup run to remove BHO? - Checked for malware? I had a system here that Defraggler 1.18 would close out on, & firefox 3.63 would error out with a message cannot write to memory space, in addition to AVG being installable, updateable, but it would not run scans nor activate the resident shield. I ran Malwarebytes antimalware with updated defs & it found a registry key with over 800 items listed that had to be removed, which was missed by Spybot S&D with latest def, Spy Sweeper, etc etc. Try Malwarebytes, update it, & run it. After the malware was eliminated the CTRL + ALT + DEL worked again for bringing up task manager, firefox worked great, defraggler worked without a hitch, AVG even coughed up some nasties to eliminate on it's own! Try it & let us know!

Defraggler already includes all the languages in a single installer. This is not what I am complaining about. It would be much better if someone selects English, for all the other languages to not be installed & waste space. This is still not what I am complaining about. The installer had a checkmark you can uncheck to prevent it from checking for updates after install, but of course that never works, because the first thing defraggler does, whether you have that box checked or not, is check for updates!

I love the ability of CCleaner to store settings in the ini file. I get annoyed on new pc's you clean, or actually, on old ones each time it tells you that you are going to be deleting files, are you sure you want to proceed? It really adds up on hundreds of machines. I was wondering if you'd consider adding the ability to disable the "Are you sure you want to really delete files?" in the ini file, instead of using the registry. Thanks! Hope you like this idea!

I love the empty recycle bin option in defraggler, but I was wondering if it would be a better idea to do this. I hate having to remind defraggler each time I run it to empty the recycle bin because that is an extra click, & that adds up quickly when you use it on hundreds of computers. I noticed that there are 4 main trash hogs on computers. - Recycle bin - Internet trash - Temp files - System restore points I was wondering if Defraggler can have under the options, a section to checkmark 4 types of trash to remove so that you can have it automatically do these things before defraggling. - Empty recycle bin - Remove the common web browser trash from IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Safari but just leave the forms filled attribute untouched - Temp files, but leave anything created in the last 24 hours just like in CCleaner - System restore points, but leave the last good one for protection This would speed up defraggling a lot for the most common users, & adding the ability to have defraggler remember that in it's ini file would be wonderful! Thank you! P.S. Let me know if you like this idea or not

I really like that idea, because I have a highspeed computer with multiple drives, & I do not like wasting time.

I noticed that through many iterations of defraggler installer, even the latest version, that if you untick the check for updates box while installing, it will still insist on checking for updates as soon as the installer is finished, & you have to go back in & manually turn it off. I was just wondering why have the option to disable it in the installer, if it does not work? Perhaps it can be turned off by default, instead of on so they won't have that problem! In addition, I thought it is a waste of space to install all languages when someone selects only English. But I guess that is pretty minor. The main thing is it is annoying to uncheck the check for updates, & have it check anyway. Wonder if this can be fixed?

I think he is simply trying to say that it will not defrag the pagefile on a computer.

There are many files with the same name, but who are different applications. There are many duplicate files for running windows that also exist in other areas that upon deletion can break windows from running properly. The problem with duplicate finders, is not any of them are perfect & make mistakes. Mistakes are not an option!

You can call up CCleaner the following ways: Start/run & type ccleaner & enter Right click recycle bin & run CCleaner or open CCleaner (depending on if you installed it or changed the options for that) Click CCleaner shortcut %programfiles% & the ccleaner folder, then ccleaner.exe I think you want to set up CCleaner to auto run or something, but you can do the run at startup option in CCleaner settings, in addition to start/run/tasks & enter Then click add task, browse to CCleaner, & set it to run however often you need it. Of course, your account may have to have a password for this to work. You can also run it.... Gee, what advantage would running it as a service be? What are you thinking of? Perhaps I can help!

I do agree with you there. CCleaner version 2.08 USED to have a feature to checkmark or uncheck startup items you want to disable. Very, very nice! Not anymore though! It would be very nice to be able to disable all startup items at once, then reenable the once you need, as the current way seems too slow when dealing with today's mega truckloads of startup items. In my opinion, it would solve a great many more problems than it caused. Including the option to disable all startup items is NOT like deleting them, since they can be re-enabled, after all & since windows does start by default with a blank slate, I see no harm that simply disabling these would cause. Very good idea, mate!

The purpose of CCleaner is to clean junk, yes? YES! Having malicious entries in the hosts file that BLOCKS AVG, Norton, McAffee, Normal, Super Antispyware, Spybot Search & Destroy, Webroot Spy Sweeper, & tons of other good programs from being able to be accessed on the web, or redirected if you try to go to their website... That is no fun. Sure, people CAN use it for blocking bad sites, but they can also block good ones. Sure, it is entirely possible to put 30 or 40 thousand entries in your list, but since malware & bad websites are poisoned & in the countless millions, a few thousand will not do much good to protect you. I am sure, that noone else but you would consider wasting their time updating a worthless hosts file block list, & attempting to block what, less than 0.002% of the known malware websites out there? Anyway, I did state that their installer WAS a few MB. I also stated the reason it is that large, is because of the protection they added to it to alert you of hijacks! I ALSO stated I did not care for that part! ONLY THE EDITOR is what I want, & that should be accomplishable with barely an increase at all in the size of CCleaner. If I recall correctly, not only are you against a host file cleaner, you are one of the ones that was also against the addition of CCleaner adding a system restore point control because it would add a few KB of code, weren't you? The fact is, it DID add to the size of CCleaner (But barely), & it can clean out GB of worthless accumulated restore points. It makes antivirus, antimalware, & defraggler sessions so much quicker. It is so easy now to get rid of 20, 40, or even 60 GB sys restore points on comps now! No use for doing it the windows way! AND a host file cleaner is NOT dangerous. You can delete all the entries in there, or even the host file itself, & windows will connect to the web. I know, because I tried it. I have DSL. If CCleaner just protects the default windows entry & allows us to only remove the other stuff added in there, totally worthless block lists since noone uses them hardly, as there are millions & millions of malicious websites, & you are one of the only ones I know that uses it.... It would be great! As a side not, if you are having SOOO much trouble with the idea of CCleaner having a hosts file cleaner, you don't HAVE to use it, just like you don't HAVE to use the built in registry cleaner, nor also the startup list, or the "other useless features" in ccleaner, hey? A startup list remover is well, mainly cause of malware entries, & ccleaner is designed to clean, not remove malware? haha! If you really need help with adding a block list, just install Spybot Search & destroy, use the block list it offers & merge it, then just use your flash drive & copy & paste that hosts file to all your other computers. Just run %WinDir%/system32/drivers/etc to open the hosts file folder. I know it is much simpler to add & edit thousands of entries to your blocklist when there are untold millions of ever changing malware & malicious websites, but the fact is that hardly anyone uses or needs that as it just does not cover nearly enough websites, & just wastes time loading webpages every time the hosts file gets (updated with thousands more entries) to check before loading. In addition, Now, I do have to say this before it gets any further. CCleaner does attempt to make registry cleaning safe. But it is not necessarily fool proof like their CCleaner part is. I will give you an example of why this is so. By default, Windows Media Player is your player for .Mp3. Many people install 3rd party programs that take over, such as real player, quicktime, KM Player, VLC etc. What happens when that program is removed? Correct! The registry is in many cases NOT updated to reflect that program being gone, so it is left hanging with the link to say, for example, KM player after it has already been removed! Do you know what CCleaner will say? Look, here is a missing file extension, .MP3. Nothing is associated with it, so it is safe to remove. Now, that might not cause you too much problems on your pc at the moment, but give it time. Over time, countless other errors WILL rack up & eventually, you will end up sabotaging your PC & having to reload windows. CCleaner part is 100% safe. Registry editing is only around 95% safe. Expect it to ruin your registry over time. I respect your knowledge, but you do have to remember that I have worked with a lot of Computers, not just the "home" or family computers you were talking about doing earlier. I do know a lot about what causes problems & what doesn't. I do believe that CCleaner helpfully "removing" extensions that are "no longer in use" is one problem that perhaps you never thought about. I do hope this helps you understand some of the things that you previously were not aware of or did not understand earlier. I am not trying to make this very long, but it seems that unless I detail things step by step, that perhaps you have not yet worked with enough computers to really fully comprehend the results of "only a little simple registry cleaning". I know you love tons of garbage on your PC, but I as well as others do not think worthless trash on the PC is funny! reguards don

Ok, Alan. Never did I suggest having a database to detect malicious websites in the hosts file. Do I want that? NO! It would not require much at all to just add an editor! I know what I want in the host file, & I know what I don't want in it. It would not be too much problem to ad an editor that could protect the default windows entry, but enable you to delete any of the rest that are in there. It would NOT do any harm at all to be able to delete all the others. Having worthless entries in your host file means your computer has to check against all of them each time it makes a request. And so if you have thousands, it increases time taken to make the request. I am not a fan of host file additions. Maybe you use it, I don't. There should never be a host file "definitions" set to check against malicious entries, I do agree with that. I only want the editor. Plain & simple. I know when entries are malicious, & I know what to remove. All I want is just the option to remove it! I believe we could make the same argument about CCleaner's startup list. Why should it ever include the option to remove startup items? You would HAVE to have a database of malicious startup entries so you could tell which ones are safe to remove. No-one wants to download a 67 mb definition set just for the ability to tell which startup items are bad or good, & all because of a worthless feature request someone wanted to add to a simple cleaner. I cannot understand why you would want that, yeah? Haha! It would only add a few KB of code, if that, to add a host file cleaner & protect the default windows entry just like it already protects the last known system restore point from deletion. I cannot understand why you want to try to complicate things & talk about adding a host file definition set. If you want to complicate that, let us complicate the startup entry list as well with the talk of why it is dangerous to let users edit entries with no knowledge of what entries might be bad or good. Plain & simple, a host editor can be small & very useful. Maybe not for people like you who put thousands of entries in it & do not ever check it, etc, but definitely would help me because I work with lots of computers (unlike, perhaps you?) because I cannot see where you possibly could work with more than 5 or 6 personal computers the way you diss the discussion of adding a hosts cleaner. I work with lots of computers. And I see lots of cases the hosts file must be cleaned. It get's tiresome having to use other programs for this. Why don't you check out AbelhaDigital's Hosts Manager? I am thinking perhaps you do not really know much about host editing programs, so I included a link to perhaps the best free hosts editor I know of at the moment. I believe it is 3 something mb, & also checks for malicious entries, can edit or delete entries, etc. But again, I am not looking for malicious entry checking as I know when entries are bad or good having worked for so long with them. Just like CCleaner has startup item editing & I know which entries need to be disabled or not, I also know the same when it comes to the host file. If CCleaner has no database for startup checking, I see no reason to include such a worthless feature for the host file editor either. I am not ever advocating adding scanners to CCleaner to detect malware, as I already have apps for that! But since the purpose of CCleaner is cleaning useless junk off the PC, I figured that since I have worked with some computers before that had literally over 33,000 host file entries that had to be removed because of what they were doing to the PC, that just a simple editor could be added, just like they did with startup items! How hard is that, Allan? P.S. I do hope you check out that host manager program, & also, while you are at it, let me again repeat so you do not forget & run me down again, Hosts Manager by Abelha Digital DOES include a malicious entry checker, but again, I do not use it for that feature & I could care less if it had that! I just like the ability to easily edit the host file because I work with comps that get hijacked with malware. I work with computers that have had over 500 different pieces of malware, in addition to the startup items, malicious scripts, redirectors, you name it, I had to deal with it! Thank you for your time, & for checking the program I was telling you about. I fear you may yet forget again so I repeat one last time, I am NOT advocating or looking a worthless host file malicious entry checker, but only the editing part so I can easily disable non-default windows entries! Are there any other questions you would like to ask me? P.S. I do not advocate having a worthless malicious entry scanner on it, else we would also have to ad a malicious startup program scanner too? Thanks! Oh, yeah, thanks for belittling a request. You know, there was a time before CCleaner existed that many people used dangerous programs that scanned the entire computer for "junk" extensions that included the likes of .TMP * many others. But I saw the time when computers had programs that also used a .TMP extension for calendar templates, which would wipe that out, & cause it to cease functioning. Many people still do not know that CCleaner is different from these type of cleaners & as such use other cleaners rather than CCleaner. I have to tell people the difference when I help them out, so they can stop having problems. Things that you & I may know, not everyone else does. Just because you don't have thousands of request for things, doesn't automatically mean it is terrible. If this is so, all other suggestions by you or other people may as well be ignored as well, because, of course, you are only 1 person after all, right? I thought the purpose of having a forum was to be constructively beneficial & helpful to people which I have tried to do, but it seems you are getting high off dissing others & dragging them into the dirt for a simple request. Maybe this is not your intention, but it just seems that way. Anyway, I am not mad at you, just saying!

You are not the only one. But adding a hosts file editor is not unnecessary bloat. The purpose of CCleaner is to clean up a computer. Cleaning the host file is part of cleaning, I mean, we could say the registry editor is totally worthless if you want to go that far. I hardly ever use it because registry editing is dangerous & I hate worthless features! haha!

Alan, again, I am well aware of this, having worked with computers for years, lol! Common problems with infected computers are: - Hijacked hosts files - Malicious startup entries - Malicious BHO entries - Malware/spyware/virus programs & scripts - Hijacked IE settings in the registry (including redirects, etc) - Rootkits - Pop-up ad programs - Toolbars As you can see, many things can go wrong. And I have worked with them all. The reason I wanted a hosts file cleaner, is I am certain with a reasonable degree to 99% certainty, that I can eradicate nearly 100% of the problems caused by such. I do not need to run a system restore each time, nor acronis image, as I work with tons of files, & that would throw me back a lot in cost of time, & losing computer settings I experiment with. A lot of people who know much less about computers than me DO struggle with malware removal & many times do fail to check key areas that malware commonly hides, including the System 32 folder, program file folder, app data directory, & C:windows. I know a lot more than I post up here, but I post it not, simply because it would contain too much info for the average person here. Having a utility to easily edit the hosts file may not be much to you, but it would be a lifesaver to me. You can manually edit host file in notepad or text editors, but I have a program that can do it. However, it would be so much easier for me if it were built into CCleaner. Editing the hosts file is never dangerous, as windows will resort to not using the host file if it is missing. It IS dangerous if you have malware add things. Let me tell you something you may not know. Host file can block bad sites, but I also saw a malware program take advantage of that when I was working on a friends computer. I did eradicate all the problems, but I also had to remove all the entries in the hosts file because a malware had added entries to block CCleaner, AVG, Norton, McAffee & about 30 different GOOD programs. It caused Firefox to display the warning! This site may be harmful to your computer! error, & that is just awful! Maybe you don't even need CCleaner, as you might be the type person who saves every cookie for whatever reason etc, but I feel that I & many others would benefit from a hosts editor. Again, it does NOT have to be something CCleaner does automatically, but just include the option to edit it like it does with system restore points. Maybe have the ability to delete all comments & entries EXCEPT the default loopback one.

Let me get this straight. You do not want the hosts file to be changed, so why would you be editing it anyway? This is ONLY for people who actually do want to, which is why it, the system restore control, & startup options are OPTIONAL (not mandatory). Anyway, besides, if it backed up your hosts before beginning to work, you could just restore the backup!

Thank you for your help. I did learn something from your copy/delete operations, as well as thinking of things I can do with relative paths etc. However, you seem to have misunderstood something I was saying earlier. You said you don't want to lose your hosts file settings. How are you going to lose it? I suggested that CCleaner not touch it by default, it just has a setting you can click to edit/delete entries, or do a blank/clean windows hosts file if need be, while backing up the current before doing so! You said there are other programs for BHO startup items & that is true, nirsofer Startup Run is the tiniest, portable, independent of .Net etc program that will detect startup + BHO items & let you delete them. The purpose of improving CCleaner is, I would think, to make it easier. I could easily point out that Spybot has a built in check for temp files to clean before scanning. Does this mean you really want to only use the built in temp files cleaner in Spybot & delete CCleaner since it is duplicity in those functions? The fact is, CCleaner has been getting better, & adding more like System Restore point controls, & as such has evolved into one of my favorite tools to use. I just felt the addition of BHO startup disable/delete will complete the startup check. I feel almost half baked knowing that CCleaner only checks for regular startup items, & BHO are still hidden, waiting to unleash whatever payload! If CCleaner had a BHO scanner, I could toss nir sofer startup run! Hopefully, you see what I mean now! Sorry for the confusion!

I could, but going on the same kind of advice... Why use CCleaner to make temp file cleaning automatic? Wouldn't it be just as easy to just go to start/run & type %TMP% then enter? CTRL + A to select all, shift + del to delete the trash? And of course, let us not forget the ease & convenience, let alone speed it would bring us to also manually delete the browser temp folders, cache, histories of Firefox, Google Chrome, Safari, IE, Opera, etc. Fact is, each one of these is not so bad alone. But together, & they = a time consuming task! It is much easier having a simplified program like CCleaner clean it. One button, pfft! You're done! I was asking about cleaning the BHO items because they always start with windows, so I was wondering if CCleaner detected startup items, it can't be that hard to add BHO cleaning, I wouldn't think, because Nirsoft Startup Run does it in a few KB program! It shows ALL startup items, BHO & regular. But, then again, I really hate having to use startup run + CCleaner when I love CCleaner so much & it would be so much easier & more convenient if that was built in! Going to the windows Etc/ folder for the hosts file is not half as easy either, as it would be if CCleaner could have a way to keep the windows default entry in the host greyed out so no-one can delete it (Like it does with the last saved restore point under system restore point cleaner). But allow all other entries to be deleted, or even have a 1 click fix to restore the windows hosts file back to just like it was when windows had a clean install! If over-writing the hosts file was a concern, why not implement a way to save the current one as hosts2 while writting a clean one as hosts so they can always restore hosts2 if they have to later? Well, hopefully you kinda get an idea the reason why I asked now. So, do you still think the same way? I sure would love to be able to drop startup run & be able to only use CCleaner! *Hugs CCleaner* Meow? Thanks!

I love CCleaner, but there are 2 things I miss badly. CCleaner shows all the startup items, except BHO objects. So I have to use Nirsoft's Startup Run for that! Also, the system hosts file can have non-standard entries inserted by programs, causing weird behavior. So I have to manually edit those entries out, or use Hosts Manager. So, to put it in summary, would there be a way to add these to CCleaner? - BHO Startup detection (Under startup tab) - Hosts file cleaner (Set to system default, which is a clean hosts file) Thanks! I'd love to hear from everyone & see what they think too.

I love Speccy, but any chance to add the ability to add the L2 detected cache to the registry so windows will pick it up & use it properly? Additionally, Speccy is wonderful for obtaining information, but it would be so great to have it able to test your ram sticks & be sure they are good. Seems like a wonderful feature to add to Speccy would be to check the Ram/Mobo/Processor/Harddisk for errors or defects. If nothing else, at least a ram tester. Bad ram is so hard to find sometimes, depending on where the bad memory address is! Thanks! P.S. Any chance of making the report tool able to generate a hardware report in human readable format? I know there is .Speccy, but how do you open that with notepad or wordpad? Love the program!

Just a suggestion, but how about a way to make a defraggler that will automatically offer to remove all but the last system restore point? Matter of fact, since they included the recycle bin check in Defraggler not too long ago, I see no reason at all that anyone not using ccleaner should ever waste time defragging trash files. So, how about an option in Defraggler to run a lite version of CCleaner (minus the add remove programs, startup entries, registry edit, etc) that will run the standard ccleaner options to remove trash, in addition to all but the last restore point? This would make it so much quicker to defrag a drive because most people don't even run a cleaner before defragging a drive, & even if they do, they defrag gigabytes of system restore points. This will make defragging so much faster, believe me. If this is objectionable, wonder whether time spent to locate restore/recycle/trash folders appended to the end of the data defragged on a drive so users don't end up with trash being defragged right next to programs they need to use? Be sure to comment me & let me know what you think! Yeah, I know, why have a lite ccleaner in defraggler since they are 2 programs, but still, most people DO NOT run a cleaner it seems, before defragging. So, I suggested this because it will save so much time, energy, & money for people as they won't have to trudge through piles of trash just to defrag! Thanks everyone!