Oliver

regular deletion here, because: a. it is faster b. the secure-deletion provided by CCleaner is quite useless Oliver

spy1 asked: Bravo, that is exactly what I have meant... Maybe - out of your corner of the world - you can just provide us with some more results - especially what kind of Log-In-Account you are using while taking advantage of CCleaner... Oliver

Glenn wrote: in artistic?s case, he should try to borrow a Win-98 Installation-CD and I?ll provide him with the necessary Installation-Code over PM. (As this is probably just about selling a working System - we are not talking about perfection) Oliver

...to make it rather impossible for anyone to restore your once deleted personal files from the data-carrier, it is important to wipe the disks. If those disks even hold some confidential informations from your company, you can be held responsible, in case those files can be restored and misused later on - just formatting the drive doesn?t wipe the files - they can still be restored afterwards... http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/eraser/Eraser57Setup.zip you?d rather do yourself the favour to secure-wipe all data-information on the drive and sell a clean and sober drive, as trying "to clean around Windows". Oliver

spy1 wrote: IDS is doing the job even in regular Win-Mode, as I can confirm from here... Concerning your "testing-environment" are you actually facing the same results just taking advantage of CCleaner? Oliver

Deke40 illustrated: Good Morning from the cold "Old-Word", Deke40, "Secure-Deletion (Wiping)" as you probably meant it above is something else - making it somehow impossible for some third person party to restore your once deleted files from the data carrier - so you are actually already a step further here, as we are just talking about deletion of the Index.dat?s - not wiping you can look into the Index.dat Files with almost any word-processing tool. concerning the issue, we came to the conclusion here, that it has got something to do with the Admin-Accounts under XP... either you do a "Safe-Boot" (F5) - or you?ll give yourself a temporary Admin-Account with full access-rights - CCleaner will then do its job... further informations as follows: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm P:S. there is furthermore still an adaptable Linux-Script (a Knoppicillin-derivate) available, that hooks into the Win-Preloader before any System-Handlers are initiated - but that is another story... Oliver

Robbie mentioned: Hello Robbie, we actually double-checked CCleaner on three different systems here (Win 98-XP) - all we can say up to now is, that the content of the Index.dat-Files still remains after rebooting... a clean and sober Index.dat-File should be around 16-32 KB - and that was definately not the case here so far.... this is not to denunciate CCleaner - maybe we are doing something wrong here... Oliver

hazelnut wrote: [...] we actually had this issue before... the Index.dat files are indeed marked to be deleted by CCleaner - but their content will still remain after Reboot, as far as I can see that from here... to really replace the Index.dat files under Windows XP, a temporary deletion-entry is needed within the Autostart-Folders before System-Boot-Handlers are loaded - or, on the other hand, a manual deletion of the Index.dat files after "Safe-Boot" (F5) could do the trick... There is actually only a small selection of programs around, that are capable of really wiping out the Index.dat-files... Oliver

forget about working around the problem, (Admin-Accounts / Safe-Boots etc.). I assume, you are actually using the integrated WindowsXP-Defragger - that one definately causes problems sometimes, even with its own nature Windows-files. I can recommend an alternative defragmentation-program that is actually freeware and that works on "cmd" - Basis: http://www.dirms.com/home/download/dirms_service.asp after installation, open a prompt, find the directory where you have installed the program and type "dirms c" for c is in this case your drive that has to be defragged... (works only on NTFS-Partitions)... concerning my opinion, the program is quite slim, reliable and doing a much better job as the Windows? Defrag, eventhough it is not working below the general API of Windows... Oliver

CCleaner doesn?t use wildcards like *.* CCleaner needs an exact assignation on where to find the files to be deleted within their directories. I?d wish an ability within CCleaner aswell, to trake advantage of wildcards - it would definately purify the amount of programing (definition)-code, combined with much more effectiveness, as I believe... Oliver

Since it took all of us here some time to get the gist of what you are really want - as far as I know, CCleaner doesn?t make any differences between the Cookies you want to keep and the Cookies you have cleared for deletion - it just deletes your Cookies if you want so. There probably was a reason why Twisted Metal has left out the "Cookie-Section" in his path-advice for you. I have heard somewhere, that there is a function within FF or your Loli-Fox to export wanted Cookies and store them separately - just make sure it is a sealed box - otherwise the cat might get them Oliver

For Cache-Files: C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\[profilename]\Cache directory For Cookies: C:\Documents and Settings\<profile>\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\xxxxxxx.default\cookies.txt Just replace "Firefox" with your individual browser-version. Since some of those entries you?ve posted are quite nonrelevant, I still believe you?ll know what to do Oliver

you`ll need a separate Freeware-Programm to completely uninstall Norton from your system. Another (more complicated) solution would be to completely format and newinstall your system. Even though you might have deinstalled the Norton-Suite with its own Uninstall-Routine, remains of that programm will stay in your system (especially the Firewall-services). Look here: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...v=&osv_lvl= I fear CCleaner won?t do the job completely for you. Oliver

Anthony wrote: The size of a clean Cookies index.dat file is 16 KB. The size of a clean History index.dat file is also 16 KB. When clean, the size of Temporary Internet Files (Cache) index.dat file is 32 KB. Index.dat files only store the references of visited wep-pages, not the wep-pages itsself. Another approach to delete index.dat files manually (xp, nt, 2000) might be, to log-in with a different (temporary) user-account and trying to delete the index.dat files out of your own account, since win xp doesn?t take a hold on those files anymore when logged in with a different user-name. For 98 and Me you can delete the whole C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\ HISTORY.IE5 folder with its content into the receycle-bin and restart the system immediately afterwards. The folder will be recovered empty with a pure index.dat file after reboot. Oliver

CCleaner does not wipe the index.dat-files. They will remain in your system with their contents. In addition, the index.dat-files are protected by the running system. Microsoft claims that is for web-page-load-speed-up - what is actually not true. Check for the following issues: a. Do you have a limited User-Account on XP? b. Documents and Settings\<YourUserName>\Local Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat Documents and Settings\<YourUserName>\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\index.dat Documents and Settings\<YourUserName>\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\MSHist<number>\index.dat Documents and Settings\<YourUserName>\Cookies\index.dat you can delete those Registry-Entries manually, but I can recommend a free software that is doing the job for you. http://www.browsertools.net/downloads/IEPr...KeeperSetup.exe Oliver

hello there, in addition to the previous posts, there might still ba a chance that the "Windows-TaskService" (tasksys.exe) on your system had been deactivated (maybe through secondary Win-Service-Optimization or Security-Programms). Any deactivation of the "Task-Service" can result in a stall of the "Prefetcher" under WindowsXP. Oliver

Hello to everybody, this is just to mention, that the User-Trace-Deletion-Procedure within the Windows-Registry under "CCleaner" could be more simplified in a more effective way, as I do believe. as there is to delete (User-Traces within the Windows-Registry): MRU UserAssist Recent wouldn?t it be much more easier to take advantage of a general meta string search like *MRU or simple MRU and let the program ("CCleaner") search throughout the Registry for those entries wherever they are? Up to now, "CCleaner" needs "dedicated" search entries (definitions) to look for in Winsys.ini and how many MRU`s are out there? "CCleaner" can?t catch them all up to now as far as I know. But the advantage of a general string search would be: The Winsys.ini will stay small and concerning those User-Traces, a string search "grabs" much more of those User-Traces (MRU / UserAssist / Recent) within the Registry. I know that would change the natural way "CCleaner" works (and searches) up to now, but I know aswell that it will be much more effective and that is exactly what counts after all. I?d love to hear other oppinions, Oliver

Heya Eldmannen, thx for a quick reply, will post those neglected Reg-entries, I am interested in this issue anyway. Oliver

Hello Together, maybe some expert can help out here. I am actually using the latest version of CCleaner (6th of July Release) and ticked all the boxes for a complete and sober deletion of System- and all those Application-traces wihin the Windows-Registry. (Win XP). Unfortunately some MRU?s (especially Open/With and Open/SaveMRU?s) aswell as the UserAssist-History do remain in the Registry just after taking advantage off CCleaner. I can see that while double-checking with the Freeware-Programm "MRU-Blaster" or even using a Reg-Search-Editor directly afterwards. To be very honest, CCleaner approximately only deletes the first 75% of User-Traces in the Registry while "MRU-Blaster" is taking care of the final remaining 25%, concerning my experience yet, without wanting to denunciate CCleaner. Am I the only one who noticed this? Does CCleaner maybe still needs some more definitions in "WinSys.ini" concerning those MRU?s? Thanks in advance for any answer here, Please no comments of being paranoid, Oliver

It would be more than wise to do so, if you got something to hide concerning your old "deleted" files, whatever they are and wherever they came from. Since there is usually a certain Cluster-Volume reserved for any file that you produce under Windows, this Cluster-Volume has not always exactly the same size as the file itself. Logically that Cluster-Volume has always to be a bit larger than the file that you produce. Whenever you secure-delete a file, the rest of any fractional and previous deleted file will remain in those slack-areas, until by chance, they will be overwritten by another newly saved file. It is true to say, the larger the HDD, the more possible recoverable Slackspace you have. Those File-Slacks, as far as I know, are not affecting System-Performance in a negative way, but they could reveal extremly sensitive information to authorities for instance, if your System has been seized, for any reason. With CCleaner you can only delete or overwrite actual files but not the previous remains of old files in those Slack-Areas. (Cluster-Tips). I would wish that such a feature will be integrated one day in CCleaner for convenience, as it is not always about being paranoid or having "Angst". The disposal of a company notebook for instance could justify such a measure and why not having an all-in-one-solution? (Deleting, Erasing and Wiping of free space). Hope my bad English has done it Oliver

as far as I can see from here,..., yes it does,..., question is how,..., The program probably needs some adaptation on Vista, since there are some MRU-entries within the OS-Windows-Registry that are not yet taken care off by CCleaner. since Vista is still beta, CCleaner will be slowly adapted till the final Windows-Vista version will be released, I guess. Oliver

it definately works on Win98 Systems, but not effectively, you need individual adaptation on certain standard Win-Programs and I-Net-Cache-folders. Oliver

Hello Fredvries, thanks for your answer, unfortunately your answer didn?t refer to my question,..., actually, I wanted to remove the whole Backup-Folder of Regseeker, not just getting to know, that it is already in winapp2.ini,..., I hope you are not taking it wrong what I say here Fredvries, but I just wished that people here read the questions carefully before they just "shout" their answers into the wide open,..., again, I believe it is my bad English,..., never mind and thanks again,..., Oliver

I figured it out,..., sorry for bothering,..., the synthax in this particular case would be,..., FileKey1=%ProgramFiles%\RegSeeker\Backup|*.*|REMOVESELF goodnight, from northeast,..., Oliver

Hello Everybody, I need to know the synthax, on how to delete a complete sub-folder with its conten of a specific application defined in winapp2.ini,..., for instance; FileKey1=%ProgramFiles%\RegSeeker\Backup|*.reg the whole Backup-Folder needs to be removed, so what would be the right "word-order"? thanks already in advance, Oliver