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I use the task scheduler to launch cleanmem and the mini monitor because of the UAC.
It is the only way to have them start without the UAC prompt asking for permission.
Shane
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I tested the *.bat batch files, used in Windows Repair, (Tweaking.com) and came across a number of issues/flaws. And this was one of them.
This isnt a flaw bud. The repairs are all in one bat files. These are safe to have in there. If they are not on the system the regsrv32.exe just says its not there and moves on. Thats why you see the syswow64 in there as well. They are ment to be ran on any version of windows. Since it was safe to do it this way instead of braking the regsvr32.exe commands apart for 32 & 64 bit then for each version of windows. Would have been a nightmare. :-)
Shane
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Updated out.
Have a good christmas everyone :-D
Advanced system tweaker is almost ready for public beta release. Just need to get the help files made :-)
Shane
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So setting it to auto would fix those users who disabled it and didnt realize it or for users who have software that need it to auto.
The goal is to repair not tweak. So after words a user can go a tweak their services again if need be.
So by setting it to auto in the repair it will fix those 2 types of people :-)
Auto it is.
Shane
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Perhaps I should just remove WIA from the repair. It isnt critical and will help avoid problems like this for people. It is another windows service that starts out set one way but gets changed per user setup.
Better to avoid it dont you think?
Shane
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I will get the service set to auto in the repair :-)
Black vipers site had it as manual. I will get it changed sometime today (have to wrap gifts)
Merry christmas!
Shane
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Thanks bud :-) Wasn't sure if you guys would have liked me posting to my forums.
Shane
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As with every repair in the program I made the repair a stand alone exe as well.
I would like to get more testers and feedback before I put out the new windows repair with it.
So if you would give this a try and let me know :-)
http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/set_windows_services_to_default_startup.html
Shane
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Still using XP SP3 here, Hazel. Does this affect overall system performance? Do you have it set to "Manual" or "Disabled"?
The search indexer I have set to disabled and is one of my tweaks in my simple performance boost program.
http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/simple_performance_boost.html
On older systems with 1 cpu you will see a huge decrease in performance as it takes the cpu to catalog everything. Then the more files you have on your system the larger the catalog and the more cpu it needs to work with it.
Drives me nuts. So off it goes. All it means is searches are slower. I can live with that :-)
This is for XP and newer.
Shane
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Like you, indexer gets turned off straight away
But what I turn off depends on what operating system I am using, also I think it also comes down to personal choice, what you feel comfortable with. For example I don't share files or allow Team Viewer type connections (remote desktop) That is what I mean about personal choice.
Probably the vast majority of potential users of your software wouldn't be concerned about what was off or on.
True. And for techs like us we wouldn't need a repair like this. These repairs are for techs fixing systems, or home users trying to fix stuff.
What if one of the things a person is trying to repair is the windows search being slow? They need the search indexer.
So perhaps doing them all is best perhaps not. I have my simple performance boost program a user can run off the site after the repairs to get some speed back.
I am worried if a person runs this one repair and their older system slows down because more bull crap MS services are running. But at the same time what about users who have important services that need to be running.
This repair really is a double edged sword. No matter what you win and lose it seems.
And the biggest thing is the users who dont bother reading anything and just run everything. Now this wont hurt anything, but if more services are back to their defaults there system could become a little slower. Then they bash my repair tool.
I am also getting mixed feedback from users on this new repair idea. Some love it, some hate it.
Shane
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Shane when I said 'altered the default state' I meant the state of my services that I had on my machine at the time.
We seem to be misunderstanding each other.
There is no way I would run a tool that could possibly set every windows service I had running to another state.
However I would possibly consider running a tool that would reset , firewall, updates etc back to default.
What services have you changed from their MS defaults?
I know you didnt change every single one of them, so not sure why you are against the services you haven't touched still being set to what they currently are. So I am curious to what services you did change :-)
For example, for my self I HATE the search indexer. And always have it off. I would prefer it stay off. Since it isnt an important service I think I will have the repair skip it. SO what other services are not important but resource hogs that I can have it skip?
Shane
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Okay Shane let me say it a different way, I would not use a tool which altered the default state of a large number of services in one go.
I'm sure you have a good idea of which are the most targeted services by malware and would be the best ones to repair, just a handful I guess.
After all Windows does not help affected users much in letting them know what to repair. I was helping someone who had been infected and afterwards Windows told me that ''A system call that should never fail has failed'' A windsock repair fixed it, but how many casual users would know what to do?
@Andavari my Bits is set to manual.
Already have a winsock repair in the repair tool so that's good :-)
On this "altered the default state" I wont be changing their default states I will be putting them back to their defaults. Being put back to the defaults that Windows set them at should be extremely safe.
I will just go through all 200+ services on black vipers site and get the defaults Windows has for all of them.
Shane
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On a personal level I would not use something which turned off or on a number of windows services all at once. (but thats just me)
I guess you are talking about Windows Firewall, Windows Updates, Bits etc which seem to be the main targets with most malware.
Its not going to trun on or off a number of services.
What it is going to do is set all the services startup type to their defaults.
Mimicking the list like on this page
http://www.blackviper.com/2010/12/17/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/
So it will be a safe repair. The only downfall is if say someone turned off a service like the annoying search indexer, after this repair and a reboot it would be running again. But like you said there are services that malware turns off.
Perhaps a middle ground path then? Instead of every single service just the important ones? While not touching any others.
Thoughts?
Shane
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The Windows tweaker in me didn't like the idea of a repair to set the MS services back to startup defaults, because I tweak mine out and was worried how other tweakers would be about it.
But the repair request came from a service tech who uses the program and when I has some other techs who fix computers they love the repair ideas.
What do you guys think?
Shane
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Two months ago a friend brought me a sluggish Vista Laptop.
About 10 different mobile phone networks had got start-ups in force for instant WiFi any hot spot
There were nearly 80 processes running, mostly Start-up Automatic.
I used Blackviper and cut the burden down to 50 running.
If only you had this tool available then.
Yes, it will be very helpful.
Keep in mind the repair will only change and set windows services to their default startup state. It isn't going to mess with any other services, that would be far to dangerous :-)
Shane
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Going through all the default startup settings for all the services in windows on blackvipers website.
Going to make a repair that will set all of windows services to their default startup state (For those users or viruses that mess with them and disable or change them)
Think this will be a helpful repair? (Mainly for non tech users I am sure)
Shane
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v2.3.1 is out :-D
Shane
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Thanks, but no. My problem was the one caused by CCleaner on Win7 x64 some time ago, using one of the advanced options. A guy from MS gave a solution to fix it - delete every scheduled task. Not really an option :/
Try exporting them out first and then import them back in once you know it is fixed and working :-)
This way you wont lose your scheduled tasks but you will be having windows recreate them by the import.
http://technet.micro...y/cc709661.aspx
Shane
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@Shane: perhaps you could create two groups of tasks. One group that is specificly dedicated to repairing/restoring the WMI, Firewall, file permissions etc. to their old/standard/default state and the other group containing miscellaneous tasks like unhiding files, clean (the) temp folder(s). Perhaps the difference is a bit artificial. It's just a thought.
I already have 3 sections before you start the repairs :-)
Shane
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How about protecting users from their own stupidity by only launching any tool upon clicking the correct answer to a multi-choice question relevant to the tool
To stop them cheating you could keep the correct answers in a database on your server,
and a list of the worst incorrect answers would give us all a laugh at Christmas
LOL dont think that will work.
I have a few computer shpos and some other fellow techs who use the program when fixing computers. Tech seems to get the best results of the program because they understand it better.
Non tech people use it trying to fix something the program doesnt cover, or who knows what and just run everything. And when their problem isnt fixed they dont both contacting me they just give the program a 1 star on some of the sites.
The nature of the beats I guess. But as the program grows I will have it cover more and more things.
Next repair I am working on is a repair to put all the Microsoft services back to their default startup (For those people who messed them up) Also going to be looking into the reg key info for the services. Once I have that layed out being able to put the services reg info back into the registry can fix broken or delete services. That will be fun to test :-)
Shane
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What do you guys think about having the unhide non system files be separate from the program?
I made that repair with that one virus in mind where it hides everything.
I have users running every single repair. Now normally and so far unhideing files isn't a problem, since most non system files are not hidden.
But just like this person I just helped
http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/topic,18.0.html
There was a hidden file in their startup folder. And since it because unhidden it started showing up at startup, and of course my program got blamed for it being there.
Since the unhide files is meant for those extreme cases do you think it should be an exe by itself or left int he repair program?
Thoughts?
Shane
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I understand. But these kind of fixes need big red warnings. Remember, if it becomes popular you'll have people trying to "fix" their computers by checking every checkbox, ruining their computer in the process.
PS: Any idea how to fix a non-working Task Scheduler that says it can't find tasks (this: http://social.techne...b8-1b58e73ea4dd except I don't want to delete every single task, because that makes the Task Scheduler useless)? If you do that, I'll build an altar in your honor.
"if it becomes popular you'll have people trying to "fix" their computers by checking every checkbox, ruining their computer in the process"
You right on that one. So far every non tech user I have seen use it runs every single repair. I dont think they even read what the repairs do lol
Thats why I have the basic, advanced and custom. In basic I dont have the permissions even selected. SO far everyone just keeps choosing custom and doing them all.
ON the task scheduler, are you able to start the task scheduler service by any chance?
Shane
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Shane are you saying that the unhide system files 'fix' that you made is different to the unhide.exe made by Grinler?
I am not sure. What mine does is as it loops through all the files any file marked as system is skipped. And all others are unhid. I did this because other wise system files, like desktop.ini whould start showing up. Didnt want home users messing with the system files. :-)
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Some of these "fixes" look weird.
Reset File Permissions: "The repair will grant administrators, system, users and everyone full rights to every file on the C: drive."
WTF? The whole point of Vista/7's strict rights are to avoid getting in this situation ; the only account which should have all these permissions is TrustedInstaller. Otherwise, a virus infecting one user can do anything it wants without having admin rights.
Unhide non system files: "This repair will unhide every file on the system that is not a system file."
This one should get a big red mention "don't ever do that unless you are really, really sure it's gonna help you".
Viruses still get on the system anyway and things get broken all the time. I clean viruses off customers machines almost daily. When file permissions get screwed up you cant install updates, programs crash and other things happen as well. Had a user who couldn't get a service pack installed. It was because of file permissions. After this repair was ran the service pack is installed. Also a lot of viruses out there mess up the file and reg permissions. The goal of these repairs is to get the system working again after the permissions have been screwed.
The unhide system files I made because of a virus that is out there the marks every single file on the drive as hidden. After seeing it on a few of my customers machines I wanted a way to unhide them again but still leave the system files hidden like they normally are. So that is this repair.
The only suggestion I can make on this APP is to work on the Setup. I don't like any app that just runs and leaves traces behind when closing....though this extracted within the same folder as the Archive.exe resided. If he wants it left on the HDD, maybe prompt/suggest an installation location and create shortcuts for the program on the Desktop.
The program shouldn't leave ANY trace on the system. It is a portable tool. It is a self extracting exe which after words you can just delete when your done with it. Since it is a tool you would only need when something is broken I didnt think a setup was needed. Most of the techs who use it just keep the extracted folder on a thumb drive :-)
The program is still young and needs to grow.
My goal is to have a repair tool that can save someone from having to do a reinstall.
To help those people who can't afford a computer tech, and of course to help my fellow techs out there.
Just had a user post on the facebook page for tweaking.com how the tool fixed his problems.
So feedback is always welcome. Just like my other programs it can only get better thanks to the users :-)
Shane
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I like how my name is in double quotes lol
Shane