shsaci Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hello, I hadn't estimated the benefit of renaming the files automatically before securely deleting them, until I decided to pose as a'bad guy' and tried recovering files from my own drive. Renaming the files to an illogical name/numbers helps a lot in disguising where the file is. I'd love this feature to be added to the already existing secure file deletion functions! Thanks Sach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hello and welcome. Could you please explain how this helps hide a file? I just cant see how renaming a file could possibly help. The file is renamed before deleted. so how could this possibly hide it more? you could rename it a million times and the fact still stands it was deleted with the last rename of the file. so if i broght a second hand pc and there was 100 files that could be recovered. it would not matter if they had been renamed 1million times sinc eim trying to recover the file infront of me regardles if its called 3453251q3.png Please this is not a critism, just a general observation. I'd love to know more if this is the case sam edit* i would how ever like the option to add a personal 'stamp' to the over write on last pass. example:this file was over written by ccleaner No fate but what we make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hi shsaci. I sort of agree with you. Don't think Ccleaner nor recuva rename the files when they overwrite them (somebody confirm?) but it would be good if they did. For example if I delete a file called "TOP SECRET DOSSIER on ***", I would like it better if nobody knew it was there before. The developers read these forums and make changes frequently, maybe they'll implement this one. The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted September 6, 2009 Moderators Share Posted September 6, 2009 OK, seeing as you asked. CC renames on secure deletion, Recuva doesn't, presumably on the grounds that it can't. Both leave the path info intact, presumably (again) that they can't alter directory info in the MFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 OK, thanks for the information, Augeas. I checked on this issue a while back using CC and several other apps, but don't have time nowadays. You saved me a lot of time. "Time is the...only coin you have...". The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted September 6, 2009 Moderators Share Posted September 6, 2009 You mean I've just spent something? Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleet Command Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Actually, this is a good idea. Obfusication is actually a commonplace and successful method of information disclosure preventation. One method would be to simply rename files to random numeric names and eliminate their file extension. This method is reliable enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted September 8, 2009 Moderators Share Posted September 8, 2009 There must be something up with the question here. CC secure deletion does (as the previous posts state) rename deleted files, including their extension. Well, those it can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleet Command Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ^ Really? I didn't try it myself but since shsaci brought up the suggestion in the first place and said "I decided to pose as a'bad guy' and tried recovering files from my own drive" I though he must have had studied CCleaners secure deletion module carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted September 10, 2009 Moderators Share Posted September 10, 2009 Well just try it on a few files. Piriform says that secure delete overwrites file names. Posts 2, 4 and 8 say that secure delete overwrites file names. I know that secure delete overwrites file names. The misguided OP has long since buzzed off, and after posting the same stuff three times so have I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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