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@SumGuy Unfortunately, that Chrome feature is NOT the same. It allows for a raw link to the highlighted text for sure. However, the "Link to Text Fragment " Extension allows for either a raw link, or rich text link The effect is shown in the attached Word doc Screen Capture test.docx

Lol you're right @nukecad Not really too bothered about upsetting the Dev - I'm just reporting what I see, and until that GitHub entry, I was happy to leave it be anyway; as I pretty much said above it isn't a PROBLEM as such - more of an issue that, in a perfect world (!) wouldn't exist. I actually took slight exception to the suggestion that CCleaner was somehow to "blame" having used it for so long. (I've seen plenty of those ads too!) I agree with your "I think that this is something that has no real solution other than not clearing the session for Chrome" - I just have this "OCD" approach to seeing problems through, especially when I was the one to raise them.

@nukecad Would you care to look at the GitHub thread - https://github.com/GoogleChromeLabs/link-to-text-fragment/issues/44#issuecomment-945816061 The Context Menu code (along with subsequent comments) has been posted for me, but it's FAR more appropriate for you!

To @nukecad You said "I prefer to quote the relevant text fragment so that it can be quickly/easily seen without having to follow a link, and also give a link to the full article for those who want to follow up and see the full contents." As you know, that extension gives the heading and a link which is how I prefer to do it thus: Brexit: EU to reveal new proposals on Northern Ireland Protocol taken randomly from the BBC. Again...IMO, I find that looks neater if I'm sending an email with a link. Of course, you also said "Each to their own" a sentiment with which I most certainly agree and "(I have learned something new about Chrome for future reference)." Well raising this thread has taught me a fair bit about Chrome and CCleaner for future reference! I mentioned earlier that it's a few KB of space wasted so Google's issue of "Session State wasting valuable space" is, (again IMO) irrelevant in these days of system partitions being hundreds of GB - I think that comment is a hangover from earlier years - I'm old enough to remember sub 100MB system drives! Backing up that INI file is an excellent idea - I have got the "Save all settings" ticked - I think it's set by default. And @Andavari I 've come round to your way of thinking about Sessions - I did look at that community winapp2.ini file - I think I'll continue letting CCleaner create my own INI file - this being a case of "If it ain't broke......" we know the rest! All very educational and despite none of us actually being able to fix the issue, as the Author of the thread, I find the solution of simply not ticking "Sessions" the most practical and elegant.

Well that implies that you think CCl;eaner "tampers" with Extensions as a matter of course which is what is actually happening here. The folder you've suggested is, presumably Edge's equivalent of the Chrome folders discussed above. If everything "played nicely" i.e. Chrome / Edge, its Extensions and CCleaner that wouldn't matter. What this fault demonstrates is that doesn't happen. What it looks like you're saying, is that parts of CCleaner, which is itself a 3rd party cleaning tool need to be defeated in order to prevent problems. One could (but I'm not) draw the inference that you're suggesting that CCeaner "out of the box" isn't fit for purpose! HOWEVER...As it happens, that "sessions" setting is UNticked by default on Edge (I have both Edge and Chrome on my machines), I'm now actually thinking, that I may have ticked it on Chrome myself at some stage. The more I look at what "Session" does, the less use I see it being - @nukecad touched on this earlier and I just found his post here Session – You can save the session and reopen it at a later time. Your Session contains all saved and opened tabs, so cleaning it will remove these tabs. Well my browsers are set to open specific pages at start-up so that facility is of little use to me - and if Chrome crashes, it asks you what to do (i.e. re-open last tabs or not) Also, oddly, CC has had similar issues a very long time ago I paraphrase what I said above: "Unless someone can give me a good reason to include Session, I'm inclined to leave it as it is (UNticked), rather than apply a workaround which makes the installation non-standard: saving 18kb of disk space is hardly worth any effort " Your thought on that would be interesting. If anything, starting this thread has enlightened me to some of the stuff CCleaner does "under the bonnet"

Thanks VERY much for jumping in on this @MeganCCleaner I took a screenshot of the result of the "View all files" that you suggested above (attached "Sessions - View all files") There was one file matching your description "\000010.log" so I Clicked "Add to Exclude list", restored the Sessions functionality and ran Custom Clean again Sessions were cleaned and the problem returned. Just for fun (?) I readded the extension, left Sessions enabled, ran Custom Clean again and this time it kept the extension INTACT Ran Custom Clean again and AGAIN this time it kept the extension STILL INTACT. So I'm not sure why it didn't work first time around but it did on subsequent Custom Cleans. Then I removed the log file from the Exclude list, ran Custom Clean again and sure enough the problem returned. So yes your suggestion does restore the "Sessions" functionality PARTIALLY if you ignore the excluded log file, but I'd have to do it on several systems and I don't like non-standard setups where they can be avoided. Plus I'd be willing to bet that the problem would reappear after a CCleaner update or at least the potential is there! As I said above "To be perfectly honest, having played around with this and looked into it in greater detail, I'm content to leave "Sessions" deactivated if that's the only CCleaner functionality I'm losing". It seems to me that it doesn't do that much of importance - now if it was Cache or Cookies, that would be different. The containing folder (Session Storage) only contains about 18kb of files, so it seems to me that the extension is of more use to me than the Sessions functionality. So bearing the above in mind, unless you can give me a good reason to include Session, I'm inclined to leave it as it is (UNticked), rather than apply a workaround which makes the installation non-standard. Your thought on that would be interesting. Of course if the Devs come up with some new code, I'll give it a go! (There is so far no response to my post on Github) Thanks again

Is this something you can arrange to have investigated internally? I'm assuming that you are "part of" or have contacts within the CCleaner organisation?

Nice try but no cigar! I did exactly as your link instructs, assigning Ctrl Z as the shortcut. It worked exactly as if I was using the context menu - I could use either, as you'd expect with a shortcut. So far so good. However..... I then ran Custom Clean with "Sessions" enabled again. Same problem - extension present but doesn't work either with the CM or the new shortcut. Same fix - remove and re-add extension - all working, but of course the shortcut was removed along with the extension. To be perfectly honest, having played around with this and looked into it in greater detail, I'm content to leave "Sessions" deactivated if that's the only CCleaner functionality I'm losing. The extension is of more use to me than that particular functionality. Having said that I'm also happy to test any other suggestions anyone here may offer and if anything appears on Github, I'll test that too. As I'm sure we agree, bottom line...it shouldn't behave like this. It's a very naughty extension!

Indeed..... that extension is VERY useful so as I said "I think I'm going to try running CCleaner without clearing Sessions for a while whilst at the same time monitoring Github" I presume that the CCleaner Devs and Testers see this forum so someone might have some more input. Naturally if I get any feedback via Github, I'll post it here. Thanks again for your time @nukecad

I thought that might be what you meant - that was what I meant by "there is likely a (hidden) folder somewhere to add to the "exclude" locations" Thanks for clarifying. When you get to that level, it's sometimes arguable whether the cure is more intrusive than the disease! Also, I've got 2 other machines on the same Google account with the same Chrome extensions, so it's effort x 3. I think I'm going to try running CCleaner without clearing Sessions for a while whilst at the same time monitoring Github as you say. Will THIS thread remain open and allow for further comment if the wait is lengthy?

Thanks....again.... @nukecad Your paragraph "'Session' typically is the information about what Tabs you have open, what sites you are currently logged into, etc." makes perfect sense. NOT clearing Session therefore defeats one of my preferred reasons to use CCleaner - need to think about that! As for: "The session information seems entirely the wrong place...." - I agree - we sort of covered that earlier when I looked at the Startup > Context Menu tab and found nothing there. I don't quite understand what you mean by: If you are prepared to do some more testing yourself then you may be able to find which particular part of the session information the setting is being saved to and make that part of the information an 'Exclude' in CCleaner. I think you're saying that there is likely a (hidden) folder somewhere to add to the "exclude" locations?? As suggested, I created myself a Github account and raised this issue Chrome Extension is disabled when running CCleaner Custom Clean #44 I "cheated" by simply linking to this thread! I assume any Dev will find that sufficient.

So this is what I did: Searched for likely cookie in "Cookies on Computer" list - couldn't find one so: Deselect (Untick) all items in Chrome Settings Capture list Run Custom Clean Nothing in Chrome got cleaned - issue does not occur (ie Extension works correctly) Reactivate (Tick) Internet Cache and Internet History Run Custom Clean Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - issue does not occur (ie Extension works correctly) Reactivate (Tick) Internet Cache and Internet History AND Download History and Last Download Location Run Custom Clean Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - issue does not occur (ie Extension works correctly) Reactivate (Tick) Internet Cache and Internet History AND Download History and Last Download Location AND Session Run Custom Clean Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - issue OCCURS (ie Extension missing from Context Menu) Removed and readded Keep to Text Fragment Extension Closed and reopened browser - Extension works correctly Reactivate (Tick) Internet Cache and Internet History AND Download History and Last Download Location AND Cookies Leave Session UNticked Run Custom Clean Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - issue does not occur (ie Extension works correctly) Run Custom Clean again (just to crosscheck) Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - issue does not occur (ie Extension works correctly) Reactivate (Tick) Internet Cache and Internet History AND Download History and Last Download Location AND Cookies AND Session ie back to my original configuration Run Custom Clean again Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - issue OCCURS (ie Extension missing from Context Menu) Removed and readded Keep to Text Fragment Extension Closed and reopened browser - Extension works correctly Left all items activated ie staying at my original configuration Run Custom Clean again Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - Appropriate items in Chrome got cleaned - issue OCCURS (ie Extension missing from Context Menu) Removed and readded Keep to Text Fragment Extension Closed and reopened browser - Extension works correctly Left all items activated EXCEPT Session Run Custom Clean again Closed and reopened browser - Extension works correctly *** Conclusion: Something in "Session" is the culprit *** =============================================== According to this website: Session – You can save the session and reopen it at a later time. Your Session contains all saved and opened tabs, so cleaning it will remove these tabs. I confess I do not understand why this should cause the issue as I also don't understand where the Session information is stored, and what the practical effect(s) of clearing or not clearing it is / are. Can anyone enlighten me please.

Thanks again. Did you see where I wrote above "You can see it shows up on the actual Context Menu, but CCleaner does not acknowledge it" ? ** That baffles me!! ** Because if CCleaner doesn't know its there, why does it get affected by a Clean operation in the first place? You say "To do that re-enable cleaning of Chrome and tick all the boxes." Actually not all because if you look at the attached "CCleaner Chrome settings Capture" you can see how I have CCleaner set vis-a-vis Chrome. So not all settings are ticked anyway but with these settings, I get the problem. However, you are right inasmuch as that must be my next step. I was sort of hoping to avoid that but, as soon as time permits.......

Thanks for responding @nukecad In reply: You say the extension itself is still there and it's the entry on a context menu that disappears. YES - see "From List of Extensions Capture" attached - this doesn't alter until I remove it to "fix" the problem =================================================== Under Tools>Startup>Context Menu that particular extension doesn't actually appear. Attached screenshots taken when the Extension is actually working correctly! You can see it shows up on the actual Context Menu, but CCleaner does not acknowledge it - see attached captures ====================================================== I very carefully avoided running Registry Cleaner when testing for this problem so as to isolate it. It most definitely happens after just running Custom Clean. In fact, if I exclude Chrome from the Custom Clean then the problem does not occur =================================================== Now, about those "other ideas" if you'd be so kind

I created the following in "Help Requests" I think perhaps this section of the forum might be more appropriate. Perhaps a MODERATOR could move it for me please.

I have 21 extensions in my Chrome Browser. Included in these is "Link to Text Fragment" https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/link-to-text-fragment/pbcodcjpfjdpcineamnnmbkkmkdpajjg This appears in the (Right Click) context menu as described in above link. However, when I run CCleaner Custom Clean, this item disappears from the context menu. The ONLY way to get it to work again is to REMOVE AND REINSTALL the extension. I've tried Just switching it off and on again, refreshing pages, refreshing whole browser - nothing else works. THIS IS CONSISTENT EVEN IF I REMOVE ALL OTHER EXTENSIONS None of the other extensions is impacted in this way so I'm at a loss to guess which CCleaner setting is responsible....or is it a bug? I have previously raised a bug with Google here https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1246011#c18 but it does appear to me that it is CCleaner responsible. Despite my title to the Google bug, it's not intermittent, but reproducible simply by running CCleaner Custom Clean. Current versions: Chrome is up to date Version 94.0.4606.81 (Official Build) (64-bit) CCleaner Free Any suggestions please?

I think people must be doing something wrong! I've always used the FREE version and because of the previous well-known issues I was still on CCleaner 5.44.6575 until a few days ago. I'm now VERY aware of potential issues and look before I leap (install) I've just updated 3 PCs to CCleaner 5.51.6939 by downloading from the genuine site http://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/download/standard and then manually installing it by clicking on the downloaded ccsetup551.exe file....as I always have done. Also I run the installations "customised" to prevent CC options from being added to the Recycle Bin Context Menu. No mention of Trial versions, Smart Cleaning was disabled by default (I was upgrading from a previous version as I mentioned and it kept my settings) and I have NO related Startup item in Task Manager, the only time a CCleaner process appears is when I run it! I'm the first to complain when things go wrong but in this instance CC is doing just what it should be doing. Btw....before anyone asks - NO - I have no connections with CC or Piriform other than as a user.

UPDATE to my post above I've created 2 small batch files, one using @nukecad suggestion to create a text-file list of connections in C:\ (Continuous connection activity.bat) and another to create a snapshot of running connections, also in C:\. These are attached - they need to be run in Administrator mode - right-click the file and...... Continuous connection activity.bat Connection activity snapshot.bat

Much obliged to @nukecad and @mta A combination of your suggestions sounds like the way to go - i'll report back if I have any new findings. @nukecad I just tried your netstat suggestion - now I need to do a bit of digging to find out what some of these mysterious communications are about. I'm pleased to say that CC is NOT amongst them - that whole link contains some very interesting info . Please see my UPDATE below One question for you both (as you both mention it) if you delete the ccupdate file, does that prevent the manual Check for updates button from working? I've always found that even if CCleaner offers an update, whether automatically or after a manual check,one can choose to ignore it. Clearly, one must be aware aware that manually checking for updates results in a communication with Piriform. I would prefer to retain that facility - to me it's all about retaining control of what my devices do! One can then peruse Release notes, read here and other forums to make a decision - not that that should be necessary of course The problem with using the excellent cleanmgr, (which I use between Windows Feature Updates and Macrium images) is that I don't think it clears browsing history and cookies, for which I've always used CC on a daily basis.

@Kernol @mta @Augeas I have NOT yet tried version of 5.46 of CC - I reverted to 5.44 (and am still using it) when all the monitoring problems with 5.45 started, so perhaps you could answer this for me please: I read the the v5.46 changelog but I'm not entirely clear whether the telemetry that is now running is due to the Settings option "Inform me of updates to CCleaner" being ticked. It strikes me that with that option on, then CC MUST "phone home" in order to see if there's is in fact a newer version available. If that's the case then it would make sense that the only way to block it would be via the firewall. I have the "Inform me of updates to CCleaner" option OFF in 5.44 until I'm happy to get 5.46 but if you've already installed 5.46 perhaps you, (or anybody else using 5.46) could check? Thanks.

Thank you for that - I now have v5.44.6575 installed and have checked Task Manager and the Registry finding no "nasties". Options > Privacy > Allow usage data to be shared..... defaulted to ON but I switched it off and it has remained off after a reboot. Options > Monitoring is all OFF by default as it should be. @Stephen Piriform I would like to point out that you really do need to get this right in the next release. Apart from the fact that I and many others are very disgruntled with this whole affair, might I point out that this is the THIRD time in less than a year that someone at Piriform has dropped the ball. In September 2017 there was the incident where CCleaner 5.33.6162 contained malware and earlier this year there was that infernal popup that one finally found could be got rid of by setting a cookie to "keep" - ie using a CCleaner function to fix a CCleaner problem! My point is that you / Avast are a SECURITY company and as such, this behaviour saps the confidence of the most loyal user (I've been using CC since it was known as Crap Cleaner and there are many other people the same!) I'm willing to await the next release even if it does take weeks, but I must say, i'm keeping my other options on the "back burner" for now. PLEASE fix it, test it, and test it again!!!! By the way, I was a professional software tester for 15 years - take it from me, bugs WILL be found in the code if you give your test team a free hand and enough time! Thank you.

That may be because there are other Registry keys associated with CC Have a look at my posting.......

Doesn't work. See my post here and the replies to it.

I presume you went into Tools > Startup and set it to Disabled? I just tried that and got the same effect - in fact it created a NEW entry giving 2 entries in CCleaner - 1 enabled and 1 disabled. That makes sense actually because Windows reads the registry at Windows Startup which is long before tasks like CCleaner start, so when it gets there, monitoring has already started. It then creates a new Entry in CCleaner to match the Registry. Remember - the Registry is all powerful! The way to do it is to edit the Registry key that I quoted above. I've just tried it; restarted Windows and Monitoring did NOT start. CCleaner functions all OK I edited it back, restarted Windows and the monitoring came back on with all the settings in Task Manager and CC as before. I am NOT going to be the one to tell you HOW to do this - if you're not conversant and comfortable with editing your Registry, you can do untold and irrevocable damage to Windows if you mess it up!!!! If you do that, and don't have a system image of Windows, you are potentially faced with a rebuild. Please be warned! Additionally, there may be other entries that need to be changed if this one is changed - I have not investigated that! Suffice it to say that this works and what we need is for the Developers to remove that Registry entry and issue a new build. To repeat what I said above: "I intend to wait and see for a few days as I think a solution from the Developer is not only more elegant but will prevent the issue reoccurring with subsequent releases! I for one don't want to have to edit my Registry every time CCleaner is updated especially as I have 5 PCs to manage!!

Afraid it doesn't - at least not on Win 10 Pro 1803 Please see my reply to @TheOwner in another related thread