Augeas
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Forget multiple deletions. The only ways to destroy data is by overwriting, and physical hard drive destruction.
Yep, and overwriting once only will render it unrecoverable. Forget multiple overwrites.
Also, I haven't read any suggestions in here about your picture maybe being in the pagefile/virtual memory.I don't know how Recuva actually works, but from its speed I guess it reads the entries in the MFT. I don't think it extracts anything from virt memory, but I'm willing to be disabused.
To your problem specifically -- Your goal is to keep your son from seeing a picture.Specifically the OP wants to prevent anyone from recovering a picture. The OP could get rid of Recuva for a start.
Or maybe... you shouldn't worry in the first place. I mean... is the picture really that bad?Perhaps the OP should let us see what all the fuss is about.... OK, forget it. I think that guilt is the driver here.
As for defragging overwriting deleted files, it depends. A defrag will reposition moveable files as close to the read heads or MFT as possible, for speed of retrieval. If there are deleted files which are not in the area that the defragged files are repositioned then they won't be overwritten. But it's worth a try, on the grounds that they might be.
Rgds,.
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i know that the files can be seen.i dont think that they can be recovered from what i saw.what can i do? what will i have to do?
Somehow I think we still don't have the full story here. In the meantime take a large file or folder, something that is at least 1/4 or 1/2 a gb, and copy and paste it on the c drive with a recognisable name such as Rubbish1, etc. Do that ten times (so you have ten copied files Rubbish1 to 10). Then run Recuva. If you can still see your unwanted files do the copying another ten times. Eventually your nemesis will be overwritten. Then just delete all your Rubbish files. Just shift/delete them so they just go.
Let us know how you get on.
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Is there a way to roll back changes after running the cleanup.
No. When CC deletes files the space they occupied is immediately available for Windows and and other applications to use. If a file hasn't yet been overwritten it might be possible to recover the file, but not reinstall an application.
System restore is not usually much help in these cases.
If you type ad-aware 1810 in Google you will get around 20,000 hits, so you are not alone with your problem. Have a browse though a few, including this one... http://www.lavasoft.com/support/faq_aaw2007.php#18
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Start, Control Panel, Add or Remove Programs, Recuva, Change/Remove.
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Don't forget sometimes Recuva is used to recover files.
Not after the microwave treatment, it isn't!
Actually I was curious to know what the OP expected to find on a CD? Cheers, A (research still continuing).
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Whilst you're waiting, if your pc is shared then delete the Recuva icon from your desktop, this might hinder the curious.
Don't use CC or any other cleaner, don't delete your temp internet files. Keep browsing and using the pc as normal, eventually files being created will overwrite your deleted but recoverable files, making them unrecoverable (although still with the same name - the name will also go in time, presuamably pushed out of the MFT). If you use a cleaner then new files will just replace those that have been cleaned and you will never get to the point of wiping out your older undesirable files.
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Do you actually know that the files can be seen and recovered? Do you get the pics in the preview box in Recuva? The only reasons I have that Recuva won't securely delete is if the file has been overwritten by another file or if the file is in the MFT (presumably this is not the case with your large jpgs). Does the info box in Recuva say that the file has been overwritten?
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Not as far as I know - it may be possible if the cd drive is external. Of course it is not usual to have deleted files on a CDR. If you're that worried about security then copy the files you wish to keep to another CDR and put the suspect CDR into the microwave for 2 secs, or until it sparks. Quite interesting, and quite unrecoverable.
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Let's assume you're using the latest version of Recuva and you want to overwrite a previously deleted file so that it can't be recovered.
Use the check box to identify the file to be deleted instead of highlighting. Then right click and choose Secure Delete Checked. If you are using highlighting to identify the file to be deleted and your cursor is not positioned over the file name when you choose Secure Delete Highlighted the file will not be deleted.
Also if the file has been overwritten with asnother valid file (look in info) then overwriting will not take place, but I don't think that is your problem as you describe it.
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sanitizing
in Recuva
Yes, that option would be handy.
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sanitizing
in Recuva
Correct on all points except the first. If you restore any deleted file then the original deleted copy will remain on the disk, so whatever you do to the restored file will not affect the original deleted file in the slightest.
Yes, it would be snazzy if Recuva could rename the deleted files it is erasing. Perhaps that will come.
Personally I hardly ever bother with the recycle bin. I throw my rubbish into a folder and wipe that with CC now and again.
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CC set to secure deletion (one overwrite) will erase files beyond any possibility of recovery by any software known to mankind.
To securely erase deleted files run a scan with Recuva. Click on the tick box at the top of the list of filenames. This will tick all the file names. Richt (I mean right) click and chose secure delete checked. You will probably have quite a wait. All your deleted files will then be erased beyond any etc.
Alternatively as you create files in normal use you will be overwriting any old deleted but recoverable files: use CC to overwrite your files as you delete them. Eventually you will be left with very few deleted but recoverable files which can be wiped with Recuva. Windows will delete some files of its own accord. If you're worried about them you can 'Recuva' them too.
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No, not with the standard options. You would have to try very hard to remove sys restore points with CC.
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There are several other threads explaining this. AVG (incorrectly) showed this trojan in the uninst.exe files of CC, Recuva and Defraggler. The latest a/v database from AVG does not flag this as a trojan, the resolution is to update AVG. There is no slur on either Piriform or AVG!
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I'm going crazy...
You're going crazy? That's nothing, just imagine how infuriating it is to find this stuff in the hardware forum! Please, tin is hard, CC is software.........
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Based on my experience it seems to be happening only after the latest a/v update from AVG (and is a false positive). I understand that MrG is trying to resolve this with AVG.
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When the files were securely deleted, did the file names remain unchanged or were they overwritten with ZZZZZZ.ZZ etc?
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sanitizing
in Recuva
No, you're not doing anything wrong. Recuva does leave the filename in the MFT, I think there was some mention of having the option to remove the name at some point in the future. I think that Recuva's secure delete option should also rename the file, as CCleaner does. Rgds.
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CC does not delete index.dat because this file is allocated to and in use by windows. If you have the option to delete index.dat files ticked then this file, or these files, will be deleted on pc reboot. But not securely as CC is not doing the delete.
Desktop.ini is a system file so CC probably leaves this alone. It is harmless.
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I'm not sure if a wildcard will work. It's worth a try. I know that folders/files on drives not normally reached by CC can be cleaned by this method, as I've done it. Bear in mind though that other CC options, such as don't delete temp files until 48 hrs old, will not apply. The folder name goes in, the whole lot gets cleared out. Let us know how you get on.
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Yep, this folder only contains two files, index.dat and desktop.ini. Index.dat is 32 kb, so I assume there's not a lot in it. I am on XP Home SP2. Rgds.
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The only way I can think of is:
If the ext drive is always allocated to drive x, and if the temp ext files are always in the same location....
Mount an ext drive (not necessarily infected!)
Open CC, Options/Include/Add Folder
Browse your pc until you are positioned on the ext drive temp int files
Click OK
This will add the ext temp file folder to the include list. You can add several temp file locations of course. Just run CC to wipe the contents. It doesn't matter if the folder isn't found on normal CC runs when the ext drive isn't connected. If you want to just clear the ext drive then you would have to untick all the options in CC except Include, but I think you could probably rig up some method of swapping options. Rgds.
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I have found that with free products a self-help forum is the norm, and quite often users get nothing at all.
I thought that Andavari's answer was comprehensive and reassuring, regulars know he can be trusted. Actually I have a couple of these registry entries and I will have no qualms about deleting them. CCleaner has never let me down.
We posted this problem yesterday on "Bugs," but do not see it today. Maybe it was deleted?I think you'll find the thread was moved to the Discussions forum, where this one should be as well: it isn't a bug. Rgds.
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CCleaner seems to be SWAMPED the so many friggen bugs!!! What's wrong?!?!
No it isn't, and not a lot is wrong. There are thousands of users who are more than happy with CC, including me. This thread should be in the CC Discussion forum.
Sudden Disk Fill Up
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Disk washers will (generally) write large files full of zeroes on your disk until the disk is full, then delete these files and file name entries. That's how a disk is washed. If the program is not allowed to complete it might leave these files on the disk, using up a great deal of space.
CC does not work like this (it doesn't wash a disk). You haven't supplied much info, but if you're using secure deletion then CC will create a temp file of zeroes to overwrite your files. I haven't seen one greater than 4k though, and this certainly won't fill your disk. Maybe if you have very large files, as I guess you have with movies, and you're doing something silly like specifying 35 pass overwrite, then CC might allocate larger temp files to do it's work. This is all an educated guess as I don't really know how CC works, and I don't have huge files or use 35 pass overwrites.
I have no idea why your previously deleted files are ending up in your temp folder, but it doesn't sound like CC's work. What creation/modified date do they have, and does this correspond to a CC or WW run, or neither?
Run a controlled test. Keep off your pc for a while, then run CC, search your disk for files created today, and order by time. What has CC created?