The_Tinkerer

The only thing I can *think* of, is that there is a "CCleaner Update" task in Task Scheduler that is set to run "at system startup", and I *may* have left this enabled... so perhaps Windows Firewall rules don't take effect until *after* scheduled tasks run that are set to run "at system startup". I did have another computer where I had the same executables blocked for both Inbound and Outbound in Windows Firewall, **and** the above mentioned Task Scheduler rule disabled. When I restarted that computer, the CCleaner auto update didn't happen. But, I can't be certain that this is what happened on the first computer, since it's now too late as CCleaner updated without permission, without prompting, and without informing.

Found this thread via Google I had rebooted the PC, noticed that desktop was taking too long to come up, when it did, I was greeted with this CCleaner Update screen. I was astonished. I had all updates turned off. I had CCleaner.exe, CCleaner64.exe, CCUpdate.exe, and even uninst.exe blocked in Windows Firewall... both inbound and outbound. Yet somehow, you were able to CIRCUMVENT Windows Firewall, and run something on my system, without my awareness or permission, to update the copy of the program that I SPECIFICALLY WANTED to be on my system. The is 100% COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. What if a bad actor at your company or an unauthorized user gets the ability to do what you just did, to run ANYTHING that they wanted? This is a MAJOR SECURITY RISK!! Besides that, you don't seem to be getting it. It DOES NOT MATTER if it's "End of Life". OBVIOUSLY, if I needed to contact Piriform for support or anything like that, I would NOT EXPECT ANY for an older version. I would in fact ONLY EXPECT IT for the most recent version, so then ***I MYSELF*** would choose whether or not to update it. This is **MY** hardware, it's **MY** Internet connection, **I PAID** for them, and **I** am the user, so therefore, **I** and **ONLY I** get to decide what runs on it or not, what gets changed or not, or what gets updated or not. Users such as myself who understand what "User" means have enough problems constantly fighting with software providers who have this "software as a service" mentality who want to take control away from the user, including WINDOWS ITSELF, to the point of having to spend HOURS to DAYS changing and modifying the operating system to make sure that it NEVER does anything the USER does not want it to without the user's knowledge or consent. I had always thought of CCleaner as a very pro user application, but that hasn't been the case for a while, and now we all know that it is VERY MUCH not the case. Because Piriform somehow CIRCUMVENTED Windows Firewall and run something without any knowledge or awareness from the user, I would classify this software as a MAJOR SECURITY RISK from this point forward. I will have to find something else to use.

I appreciate your taking the time to reply, but, that logic doesn't follow. I only upgraded CCleaner a couple of weeks ago. I immediately noticed it's no longer detecting Windows Log Files after the upgrade. If what you are saying is true, then 1) Microsoft is somehow remotely controlling the ability of my local Windows installation to create log files, and 2) They have decided to make it stop creating log files on the exact same day that I upgraded CCleaner. When some aspect or behavior of a system changes, and you want to know why, the first thing to ask is "what is different on the system since the behavior started happening?"

Since updating to CCleaner 5.72.7994, CCleaner never finds any Windows Log Files, despite having the option checked. It will rarely sometimes find Windows Log Files less than 200K. Before I upgraded (I forgot what version I updated from, but it was several releases behind), CCleaner would always find at least several megabytes of Windows Log Files at least once or twice a week. It would sometimes even find several hundred megabytes of Windows Log Files. Did something change with Windows Log File handling? I don't see anything in the changelogs. I am on Windows 7 x64.

OK, thanks, I must have missed the check box. I swear I don't remember seeing it (which of course doesn't mean it wasn't there). I was able to uninstall Chrome and Google Toolbar. I tend to freak out when I install something and then see a unexpected programs on my system.

Just went to set up the latest CCleaner 5.37.92.6309 today, and had this happen during the installation: Never had this happen before. I was under the impression that the CCleaner installer was a self contained offline installer, which it always was in the past. I opened my user temp folder and was alarmed to see "GoogleToolbar" among other things. This are not "installation files," these are completely different programs that I didn't ask for, and do not want. When the installer was finished I was shocked to find all kinds of programs I didn't ask for, such as Google Chrome. I am not a Chrome user, nor do I want to be. I hope I didn't get any spyware or malware (I downloaded from Piriform.com). Now I'm going to have to spend more of my valuable time going an uninstalling this crap I didn't ask for. Kindly post a list of all of the additional programs CCleaner installed without my permission. And please stop this extremely user un-friendly behavior.