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Mr Ron,
Yes, I'm logged in as Administrator and the File System is NTFS.
Interesting, but the "D Drive" is also formatted as NTFS and Recuva finds deleted files just fine on that drive; but the "C Drive", nothing, just a very fast completion of the program scan - almost like nothing is happening.
I did just think of someting. When I look at "Start" by right-clicking, if I open "All Users" and look in Programs, Recuva is not there. Looks like it is installed under my user id only.
Is this a clue? Is there a way to make it available to "All Users?"
Anything else I can try?
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Mr. Ron,
I am having a similar problem. If I scan my "D Drive" or any other drive other than the "C Drive", the program works fine - finds deleted files (although there appears to be an unrelated issue that the deleted files don't have the same name as the originals).
But when I scan the "C Drive" - the one with the WindowsXP operating system, it completes in less than a second and finds nothing.
I have even created a file (word.doc), saved it and then deleted it, emptied the recycle bin, and ran Recuva - nothing is found. But if I do the same test and save the file to the "D Drive", Recuva does find the file, but with a strange file name. (the original file was named "word.doc" but the one found was Di8.doc).
Any idea why the primary drive search appears to fail?
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I guess I'm confused, too.
I just created a Word document named "tom.doc" I saved it to my "D Drive" and then deleted it, and emptied the recycle bin.
When I ran Recuva for that drive, I saw a file named Di8.doc and sure enough, it was the deleted file. I have no idea why the name was changed.
But searching for the specific file "tom.doc" did not produce anything.
Any thoughts?
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Oh right, I can see how that could be useful. I've just turned on 'Save search history...' just to see if CCleaner cleans the toolbars history here and it doesn't clean it here either. BUT I don't have the Google toolbar listed under applications so I assume that the toolbar entry is only for the IE version at present. Let us know if you manage to make a winapp2 entry for it though I suspect the fact that its not already in CCleaner means its a bit tricky, unless its just an oversight.
Well, I found where Firefox keeps the Google Toolbar History - its in a "pref.js" file, which I belive is a Java Script. The line looks like this: user_pref("google.toolbar.search_box_history", "firefox preferences\
and continues with a string of history items.
Does anyone know how to build an entry in winapps2 to delete a line within a file, like the pref.js.
IF I delete the entire file, all the user preferences are gone - I just want to delete one line within the file.
I'm not that familiar with winapps2 but so far all I see are ways to delete the entire file.
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I can't answer your specific question (sorry, someone else will I'm sure) but if you go into the toolbars options and untick "Save the search history across browser sessions", the history will be removed when you close Firefox.
JD: Thanks - that works but I don't want to clear the history during workings sessions (where the browser may be closed in the course of the day) but just when I have CClean scheduled to run.
I know that CCLeaner lists "Google Toolbar" in the Cleaner Settings under Applications/Internet but that apparently is for the Internet Explorer version of the Toolbar and not the Firefox version.
I just can't find what folder or key the Firefox Google Toolbar keeps it's history. Got to be somewhere that I can put it in the winapps2.ini
Thanks
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Does anyone know how to set up CCleaner so it will clean the seach history in the Google Toolbar for Firefox?
It currently cleans the Google Search history for the Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer but apparently the search history for the Firefox version of the Google Toolbar is not located in the same place.
CCleaner cleans the Firefox cache and history but not the Google Toolbar dropdown search list.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Version 1.34.407 "Advanced/UserAssist History" does clear after running CCleaner but does not start to re-build the list until after a complete System Reboot.
Is this normal? If I clear the list with right-click "Start/Properties/Customize/General/Clear List" it will rebuild immediately on opening the next application progam - without a System Reboot.
Seems CCleaner should work the same way.
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thanks to all to quick reply for my questions
i will use the W O N D E R F U L L firefox however i have read something about ie be faster than firefox to load some pages
thanks
Since a lot of you are using Firefox - are you also using the Extension "Google Toolbar for Firefox?"
If so, can you tell me how I can add "Google Toolbar for Firefox" to the winapps2.ini? Currently CCleaner does not clear the Search History (drop-down box) on this Google Toolbar - it only clears the recent seraches on the Google Toolbar for IE (both version 3 & 4 - and I think they are located in the winapps.ini). Just not the Firefox version.
Thanks
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I just noticed that when I clean Firefox, CCleaner does not clean the Search History for the "Google Toolbar for Firefox."
My assumption is that I need to add this to the winapps2.ini file, but I don't know where the settings are stored for this version of the Google Toolbar.
The Internet Explorer version of Google Toolbar is being taken care of in the main winapps.ini file and its history for both version 3 and version 4 are being cleaned.
Has anyone added the "Google Toolbar for Firefox" to the winapps2.ini?
Or, can you tell me what key/s need to be set?
Thanks
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I've found that by checking both User Assist History and Menu Order Cache the programs listed on the Start Menu Recent list are immediately cleared. The list does not, however, begin to repopulate until after a reboot. I have another program that wipes most recently used lists (MRU Blaster) and that too will wipe the Recent list on the Start Menu, and again the list only repopulates after a reboot. Presumably Windows XPs own feature that wipes the most recently used list must also immediately recreate whatever registry entry is deleted.
I don't know why User Assist History and Menu Order Cache have to both to be run to immediately clear the list. Apart from doing the above, I'm not really sure what the Menu Order Cache is (the prompt says it will reset the Start Menu, which is what I thought the User Assist History does).
Robbie, I have another program called "Clean Cache 3.0" and it also removes the items in the Start list after one new program is opened; but it does not require a reboot, very similar to how Windows is doing it. So, if these two methods (Windows Start Properties and Clean Cache) work without a reboot, maybe Mr. G and see if CCleaner can be tweaked or at least indicate which items require a reboot.
I kept running CCleaner several times before I realized the reboot was needed.
Thanks for confirming what I was seeing.
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I think the easiest way to do it is to rename the entry you've copied to winapp2. In the square brackets at the top of the entry is the name that will appear in CCleaners applications section so if you change it to something like Office XP Modified (or anything you want), then when you open CCleaner you will have TWO Office tickboxes - the original and the winapp2 entry that you renamed. Then you can just tick the modified entry and untick the original one.
Hope that makes sense
JD - It made perfect sense - and it works like a champ! I wasn't sure what MR. G was getting at when he said to copy the Office XP entries over to the winapps2 file - I figured both files would run and I'd be back to where I started.
Thanks so much for the help - now I can keep the Default Data Directory but clean the "history files" with individual keys - unfortunately, Access builds about 20 string values, so I need to build 19 keys to clean in order to keep the one that I want. Maybe someday we can figure out how to "exclude" or build a "not" logic command to clean everything "except"......
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Mr G,
Thanks, that was what I suspected; and I know that Access keeps its settings differently than the other Office suite programs. The one string value is the "Default Data Directory." Once I set it, its a pain to have it deleted each time CCleaner runs.
Not being that familiar with the keys, can you give me an example of what I would put in "Settings|key1?"
But now I'm curious. Does winapps.ini run first, then winapps2.ini? What I'm concerned about is, won't the Access settings be removed once winapps.ini runs?
I guess I don't understand the sequence, but if I create new keys in winapps2, how do I prevent winapp.ini from cleaning the Settings folder?
Currently, I just put a semi-colon in front of Key9 in winapps.ini - but as you noted, I have to do that each time I upgrade to the next version.
Mr. G:
I tried your suggestion - copied the [Office XP] information into the winapps2.ini but since it still appears in the winapps.ini, it looks like that file still takes precedence since no matter what I change in the winapps2 file, Access is still getting cleaned by the winapps.ini.
Did I missunderstand what you intended? If I delete the original Office XP from the winapps.ini, won't it get put back in with the next release?
I'm back to "which runs first" - winapps.ini or winapps2.ini and what happens if both files contain Office XP options?
Thanks - sorry to keep this going.
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Hopefully MrG will pop in and give us a definitive answer to this (and why it is as it is)
I agree - if the Start/Properties/Start Menu/Customize/Clear List doesn't require a reboot, apparently the files aren't in use when Windows clears the list. So, maybe Mr. G can help us understand why CCleaner need the reboot to start the list populating again. Somehow, I think CCleaner may not be clearing the same thing but I thought it was the MRU list keys in both cases.
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I had this over on the Bugs forum, but maybe its working as designed, but I'm not sure.
If I clean Windows/Advnaced/UserAssist History, the programs listed in the Start Menu, Recent list do not clear; they stay on the list until one new program is opened. Then the list clears completely - but it does not start to repopulate until after a complete system reboot. The popup prompt says "this item will clear the most recent used progarms list on the XP Start menu."
If I go to Start, right click and select properties/Start Menu/Customize/Clear List - the list clears immediately and it begins repopulating immediately. That's why I thought CCleaner may have a bug.
Is a system reboot needed for certain items to clean and begin working again? I don't see this in documentation anywhere, so I don't know if this is just my system or "by design."
If its working as designed, maybe it could be tweaked in the next release to work the way the Clear List works in Windows XP??
At this point, I'm confused if it should work this way or not.
Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this.
CCleaner v1.33.382; Windows XP Pro
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Hi again all...
I agree that it's quite possible CCleaner is setup in such a way that it requires a reboot to clear this particular menu item, but nonetheless it is not necessary...
If you clear the recent programs list from the taskbar (by right-clicking the start button and going to properties/customize)... the list clears immediately and does not require a reboot to begin adding to the list again. So the Windows system obviously does not require a reboot to perform this task.
However, perhaps this issue is not actually a bug, but rather should be moved to the suggestions section on how to improve the software.
Dig
Dig,
I agree, this could be moved to the Suggestions list - I really reported it since, without any documentation stating that a reboot was required (and its not on most all the other Cleaned items), in my opinion, it was not working correctly on my machine.
I really just wanted someone to confirm this was correct operation for the UserAssist items and that they got the same result on another machine. If so, then it should be documented that certain "cleaned" items will require a system reboot before they begin functioning again.
Like you pointed out, using the Start/Properties to clear this list doesn't require rebooting so there must be a way to do it.
If its a "Suggestion", so be it. I just wanted to know for sure.
Thanks
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Maybe thats just the way CCleaner is programmed, so that it needs a reboot to properly clear the user assist history. Just because it works differently to another program doesn't mean theres something wrong with it.
Didn't mean to be negative. I think I have seen other comments where CCleaner had cleaned some things that required a clean reboot to begin functioning again; but I don't think that is the norm for most items cleaned.
Wonder if anyone knows for sure if its only Windows System items that require a clean reboot to start working again. Be nice if it were documented somewhere.
In this case, the history list does clear, it just doesn't begin repopulating again as programs are opened from the Start menu. Seems strange and I don't remember if this happened in previous versions - that's why I ask the question; and the "Bug Reporting" intro says "report things that aren't working correctly on your system."
I just want to know for sure if this is a bug (compared to the other program I mentioned) or working as designed.
Thanks
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Hi Roxie,
I don't use CCleaner to clear my programs list (I just do it from the taskbar)... but I thought I'd try it tonight just to see if I could reproduce your results. This is what I found:
1. The recent programs list (user assist history) is not cleared immediately by CCleaner.
2. Opening any program that would normally appear on that list seems to clear it. I did not actually have to run CCleaner again. I opened Microsoft Word then noticed the list had cleared afterwards.
3. Programs are not added again to the list until after a reboot of my machine.
I am using:
Windows XP Home Edition SP2
CCleaner v1.33.382
Dig
Dig,
Its the "reboot" issue that botohers me. It only seems to happen with CCleaner; the other program, CleanCache, doesn't seem to need the re-boot before the list starts to populate again. And yes, on both programs, it takes adding one new program for the list to clear and start building again.
Since CleanCache doesn't require the reboot, I still think the lastest version of CCleaner isn't functioning correctly on the UserAssist items.
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Hi roxie,
At the moment there is no way to mark one string as an exclusion, and to clean all the others.
If there are specific keys you want to delete then I'd suggest copying the entire Office XP into a winapp2.ini file and then replacing the entry:
RegKey9=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings
With something more specific like:
RegKey9=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings|Key1
RegKey10=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings|Key2
This way it will always keep the key you want, remove others you don't want and it won't be overwritten when you upgrade to a new version of CC.
Hope this helps
MrG
Mr G,
Thanks, that was what I suspected; and I know that Access keeps its settings differently than the other Office suite programs. The one string value is the "Default Data Directory." Once I set it, its a pain to have it deleted each time CCleaner runs.
Not being that familiar with the keys, can you give me an example of what I would put in "Settings|key1?"
But now I'm curious. Does winapps.ini run first, then winapps2.ini? What I'm concerned about is, won't the Access settings be removed once winapps.ini runs?
I guess I don't understand the sequence, but if I create new keys in winapps2, how do I prevent winapp.ini from cleaning the Settings folder?
Currently, I just put a semi-colon in front of Key9 in winapps.ini - but as you noted, I have to do that each time I upgrade to the next version.
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Running Windows XP Pro and CCleaner v1.33.382
When I run CCleaner and select Windows/Advanced/User Assist History two things are happening:
First - after CCleaner runs, I look at the Recently run Applications (Start) - it still shows the program history like nothing was cleaned.
Second - if I run CCleaner a second time (only selecting User Assist History or leaving the same slections as the first time), when I look at the Recently run Applications (Start) - the list is now cleared.
But, nothing ever shows up as I run programs - Word, CCleaner, Outlook, etc. The list remains blank - blank until I reboot - then the Recently run Application list begins to show programs as I run them.
So, I think there is a problem with the way CCleaner is clearing the User Assist History.
In trying to figure out what is happening, I ran another application called "Clean Cache 3.5" http://www.buttuglysoftware.com/
This program has a similar option to "Clean UserAssist Registry Entries" and "Remove" them. It works just fine - when I run it, the list is not cleared until the next application is run - say I had five programs showing - I run Clean Cache, look at the Start menu and the programs are there, run a new program, and look at Start menu - the list now only shows the one program.
I prefer CCleaner, so I would like to know if anyone else has seen this issue with User Assist History.
Thanks
No response? Am I the only one who has seen this problem or did I not post enough information?
Thanks
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Is there any way to exclued one string value from being cleaned? I know we can include all by using *.* or other means, but I want to exclude a value.
By way of example, in Office XP, Access keeps its Default Data Directory at
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings in a String Value called "Default Data Directory."
Currently, the winapps.ini for CCleaner shows:
RegKey9=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings
which means everything in the Settings folder will be cleaned.
Are there any commands that I can use to build a new RegKey that will exclude the String Value for the Default Data Directory; something that would logically say "not" Default Data Directory or "all but" Default Data Directory?
Incidentially, to keep this from happening, I currently have a semi-colon in front of the entire RegKey9 in the winapps.ini file but that basically is preventing CCleaner from cleaning everything in the Settings folder.
My "exclued" request may have other applications for other programs.
Any thoughts?
No ideas?
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Is there any way to exclued one string value from being cleaned? I know we can include all by using *.* or other means, but I want to exclude a value.
By way of example, in Office XP, Access keeps its Default Data Directory at
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings in a String Value called "Default Data Directory."
Currently, the winapps.ini for CCleaner shows:
RegKey9=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings
which means everything in the Settings folder will be cleaned.
Are there any commands that I can use to build a new RegKey that will exclude the String Value for the Default Data Directory; something that would logically say "not" Default Data Directory or "all but" Default Data Directory?
Incidentially, to keep this from happening, I currently have a semi-colon in front of the entire RegKey9 in the winapps.ini file but that basically is preventing CCleaner from cleaning everything in the Settings folder.
My "exclued" request may have other applications for other programs.
Any thoughts?
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Running Windows XP Pro and CCleaner v1.33.382
When I run CCleaner and select Windows/Advanced/User Assist History two things are happening:
First - after CCleaner runs, I look at the Recently run Applications (Start) - it still shows the program history like nothing was cleaned.
Second - if I run CCleaner a second time (only selecting User Assist History or leaving the same slections as the first time), when I look at the Recently run Applications (Start) - the list is now cleared.
But, nothing ever shows up as I run programs - Word, CCleaner, Outlook, etc. The list remains blank - blank until I reboot - then the Recently run Application list begins to show programs as I run them.
So, I think there is a problem with the way CCleaner is clearing the User Assist History.
In trying to figure out what is happening, I ran another application called "Clean Cache 3.5" http://www.buttuglysoftware.com/
This program has a similar option to "Clean UserAssist Registry Entries" and "Remove" them. It works just fine - when I run it, the list is not cleared until the next application is run - say I had five programs showing - I run Clean Cache, look at the Start menu and the programs are there, run a new program, and look at Start menu - the list now only shows the one program.
I prefer CCleaner, so I would like to know if anyone else has seen this issue with User Assist History.
Thanks
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Whenever I run CCleaner, my customized toolbar disappears in Access - and when I open the program, I get that damn paperclip, as though I'm a new user to Access.
Is there some setting I need to change before I run CCleaner?
Thanks.
-- Lucy
Lucy,
I'm new to the forum but noticed someone posted that you can go to "Applications" and uncheck "Access."
I don't know what operating system you are using or what "Office" product you have, but I don't believe that "Access" shows up separately from the other Office items (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access). If that is the case, I think you have two choices.
1. You can uncheck Office 97 or Office XP - but that will disable cleaning ALL the Office suite products. This is sort of a sledge hammer approach, deactivating all of Office XP.
2. You can do what I did, but it requires editing the "winapps.ini" file. I'm going to describe how I did this in Windows XP (if you are using something else, let me know).
Go to C:\Program Files\CCleaner. In the list of files, find "winapps.ini" and open it (double click). Scroll down until you see the [Office XP] list. The last key currently looks like this:
RegKey9=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings
All you need to do is comment it out by putting a semi-colon at the beginning so the line looks like this:
;RegKey9=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Access\Settings
When you click the "X" to close the window it will ask you if you want to save the changes - say yes, and close the window.
Now, make sure in the CCleaner Applications list that Office XP is still selected.
What you have done is told CCleaner to clean all the Office XP files except Access.
I know that when you open the "winapps.ini" file it says not to edit the file, but this is the onlyway I have found to exclude Access. NOTE: You will have to re-edit this winapps.ini file each time you upgrade CCleaner to the next version since the un-edited file will always be contained in the new release.
As an FYI, and my issue, Access keeps the "Default Data Directory" in the same place it is keeping your personal Toolbar settings. When I ran CCleaner, it kept resetting the default directory (and I keep all my "data" files on a separate drive, which is not where Office defaults. So, each time I started Access after cleaning, I had to reset the Default Data Directory.
Please post and let me know if this solution works for you.
Recuva does not find erased files
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Mr. Ron,
Just noticed one more thing - when I try to scan the "C Drive", if I can read the popup screen correctly, it say "Completed Process 0%, 0 Files found" and the progress bar does not move to 100%.