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Thanks guys, very helpful and much appreciated.
Should I be concerned that there are around 100mb of files offered to delete. Most of the larger files reside in
\LocalSettings\temp\fnm63
\LocalSettings\temp\fnm 64
\LocalSettings\temp\fnm58
\LocalSettings\temp\fnm 6D
\LocalSettings\temp\fnmB4
\LocalSettings\temp\fnm BC
\LocalSettings\temp\fnm \CSV71
LocalSettings\temp\fnm \CSV79
LocalSettings\temp\fnm \CSV713 etc. etc. etc.
Any guidance on how I make this judgement will be welcomed.
Thanks Wayne
CC will find junk files in places other beers don't reach.
If you need to keep log files, why not make a batch file that does something like copy *.log from [YOUR TEMP LOCATION] to ["LOGS" FOLDER IN MY DOCS], then runs CC with the /AUTO switch? That way they would be vleaned from the default locations, but you would have a safe copy first...
If something is in a TEMP folder, it *should* be trash, but some people insist on saving things in there, thinking "I don't need it right now, so it's temporary, right?" - sadly the Windows TEMP folders are intended for system use only, so user files in temp locations are not seen as "special" by CC.
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...or look into windows logoff scripts...
http://tinyurl.com/ezdgd (microsoft.com)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/learnit.mspx
I keep meaning to sort out a really simple script that will run CC with the /AUTO switch, but I run it (with /AUTO) from a desktop shortcut and don't feel the need to have it fully automated right now.
if anyone else sorts out the scripts, that would be great to see posted here
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The problem is that the restarting of the progress bar confuses people. MrG should implement an indeterminate progress bar (which is one that does not advance, but simply spins in place) and also list all files as they are being deleted.
See an example here: http://www.movalog.com/mt-static/images/in...rogress-bar.gif
Agreed - unless CC has Analyzed (and can be accurate on progress), no increase in complteness should be implied.
Besides, who is agumon (or any of us) to suggest that a user is somehow "at fault" for not doing something regularly enough, or that a user's habits are more worthy of criticism than an app's poorly-implemented features?
No offense agu, or MrG if you're reading
- just thought it was worth reiterating that a bar claiming to report "progress" should do just that, whilst a bar that says "working" would suit CC... -
YES you miss the point of this post!
I was kind of addressing the fact that people don't clean up after themselves.
Why give everyone access to a tool they might not use, if you can automate it? I think there are pros and cons for giving CC to everyone, for example user B could possibly remove entries from the registry in HKLM, which may have been useful for user A.
But perhaps that's just me.
(PS - please keep lines of emoticons to a minimum
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If the developer used Inno Setup it would have been available for all users a long time ago because Inno Setup creates start menu shortcuts for all users by default.
If you're logged in as a Administrator, why not just make a shortcut aimed at "C:\Program Files\CCleaner\ccleaner.exe" /AUTO and put one in everyone's Start Menu>Programs>Startup location?
Then, without caring about tidiness, everyone who logs on should trigger a cleanup of their user profile. Or am I missing something?
Or look into logoff scripts, they might help too...
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when I do a scan and for example the size of the files to be deleted is 120 mb , ccleaner deletes less than this size , it may even reach to the half
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i searched around in the forum and found that sometimes ccleaner doesn't clean the files of programs that should be on c YET IT IS ON ANOTHER HARD DRIVE
Hi
CCleaner looks for registry data (sometimes files) to see if a program is present, then typically deletes things in default locations (eg. FileKey3=%ProgramFiles%\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX|*.bak after finding Acrobat 7's registry keys).
So, if you have installed an app to D:\Programs, or asked an app to use D:\ Temp for temporary files, without changing your system-wide Environment Variable, CC might need some tweaking to find your files.
As for not deleting all that is found, any open program is likely to be hanging on to its own temporary data - this data may vanish when the app is closed - so run CC after booting (no other apps launched) to see if the problem still persists.
Good luck!
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I recently installed a slave drive in my computer. The slave drive was once the primary drive for another computer. I know there are lots of superfluous items on it that I would love to have CCleaner remove. Can CCleaner be configured to analyze and clean a slave drive?
for a job like this, it would be best to do it by hand. CC only recognises very specific things, typically using install paths and system folders to recognise files.
So... I'd just recommend saving what you want and deleting the rest. I'm about to move a 60GB 2-partitioned drive into a new machine, and I wouldn't trust any automated process to really clean it up that well.
Depending on your setup, it's unlikely that your slave drive will need, for example, the Windows and Program Files folders, so you should be able to get rid of most content without much thought. I reckon a coffee break should be enough
Good luck either way,
cde
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Looking for any expert response, thanks!
Cheers!
To get rid of thumbs.db FOREVER...
Open any folder.
Click Tools>Folder Options
Select "View" tab
Find and activate "Do not cache thumbnails"
Click OK
Now press Start>Search>files & Folders (or just press Windows-Key + F)
Choose All files & Folders
Set "Look in" to "Local Hard Drives"
Expand "More advanced options"
Select first 3 options (search systems folders/hidden files/subfolders)
Let the search run, then press CTRL+A to select those files, then press DEL to delete them all!
Recursive subfolder searching is not supported, it would make CCleaner very slow to run. You can set up custom folders though if there is a specific folder you need to empty.
Hope this helps!
cde
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It would have to scan all of the files set for deletion, tally up all of the filesizes, and then scan through all of the files and delete them, using the first scan's total for the progess bar. It would take almost twice as long to delete the files since it would have to parse through them all twice.
This would be no problem if it was running after an Analyse operation - perhaps the bar could just say "working" if it's not actually showing progress, since it's always annoying to have a perceived progress bar reach the end, then restart. (Sometimes several times!)
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I'd recommend a (very ugly) page:
http://osswin.sourceforge.net/
Admittedly this is Open Source stuff, so CCleaner doesn't figure in the list, but there is a lot of good, free, often-updated software there!!!
Recommended: TrueCrypt/OpenOffice.org/KeePass/FileZilla/Inkscape/GIMP/Audacity/Blender/NVU/PUTTY/VirtualDub. Oh, and Linux.
If anything on OSSWIN is a dead link, Google should have the answer...
I echo the suspicion that an IT Tech wouldn't have a vast knowledge about freeware, but since schools and Universities tend to force MS tools on students I can't say I'd be surprised if network admins trained in 10 years were saying "What's Linux?".
In the meantime, you could do a lot worse than try out a few of these tools - check out portableapps.com for versions of some of these that you can run off a USB drive.
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Let me get this straight, are you saying if "KB12345" is installed by Windows update you rename it to something like: "Z KB12345"?
Why not remove entries from the list? I tend to remove entries for apps I doubt I'll uninstall in a hurry (most of them!) as long as I can find an uninstaller in their program files or start menu folders.
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Hello everyone,
I have just installed CCleaner on my pc at work, and now I just can't start the pc anymore.
Everytime I turn it on CCleaner instead of cleaning the pc turn it off.
I am just stuck and how can I get out of this problem?
Thanks in advance, seb.
If you boot the PC in Safe Mode (F8 during startup, pick from the list), you should be able to run CC and disable the "Run at startup" option.
If you can then reboot, check if CC causes the PC to crash just by running the cleaner.
If you still can't reboot, then either CC wasn't the problem, or CC may have deleted/altered something vital. THIS IS VERY RARE but some users have, for example, stored files in a TEMP folder then been surprised when these files are removed.
Let us know if you can get the PC back on!
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Thanks for the concise response. What are the items called that chkdsk X:/f puts into the log? It is not necessary for you to answer, because you have already told me the important things, and I appreciate it.
As far as I know, CHKDSK will recover file fragments and leave them in the root of your drive(s), if it finds any likely data, and there is probably a chkdsk.log text file somewhere that will have time/date info of when it was run, what it found etc. (but most people on this forum won't be able to give specifics about the contents of this log, since we run CC and therefore the log will be gone
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CHKDSK will fix things like incorrectly reported free space and other file system errors. DEFRAG deals with fragmented files.
As far as I know, CHKDSK doesn't delete any files, ever, in fact it is more likely to create files out of data it finds under some circumstances (these files are one of the many that CCleaner removes!).
So basically, you still need a full complement of disk tools, CC only does one thing (OK, 2 if you use the reg cleaner).
Keep on using:
- Antivirus
- Antispyware
- Firewall
- Disk maintenance tools (CHKDSK etc, Norton, whatever)
Hope this clears the situation up a bit!
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As I'm running short of ideas I would really apreciate if someone could help me
Thanks
This doesn't sounds like a CCleaner issue, but I'm guessing you noticed the problem immediately after running it, and weren't doing anything else at the time...?
Did you run the Issues fixer as well as the file cleaning?
Also, are there any other tasks that are slower? Does anything show up as very processor-intensive on your task manager?
And finally, what version of Windows are you using (any other specs may help)?
Not sure I'll be able to help, but this info will be useful
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I had sorta considered that, but the difference is dramatic. Although the work computer has like 30 running processes and I have like ten. Thanks
I think the solution here is to be smug that your home PC works so much better!
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It is an official Alpha version of Firefox, and was released today. It's called by it's development name, Bon Echo, just as the Alphas of 1.5 were called Deer Park, to emphasize that it's not a release of Firefox, it's for test purposes only. I'm not asking for help, just passing along some information.
You might want to read http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archive...releases_1.html
That's why we were thinking it was not Bon Echo. The rest of us might want to read http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/
I still think that pre-release software is not something for CC to even notice, since we shouldn't "use" it in the traditional sense of the word.
but good luck if you try to get it CCleaned!
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Wonder if any of yall have had this problem. I run CC at work and home. At work, I've set it to 7 passes, and it shows. The cleaning process is quite slow, especially if I've deleted a large video or something. But no matter what I do, on my home pc it only does one pass. I've checked the 7 pass option, and it just wizzes right through it. Both pc's have the same specs. Would there be any reason it would work on one and not another? Is this feature dependant upon a Windows service perhaps that I may have disabled?
A few points here:
If the machines have the "same spec", does this include hard drives? A faster home HD would explain things.
More likely though is the second point - I would imagine that your home machine is better defragged than your work machine, either through background optimization during idle time or by manual care. CC would have to seek around the fragmented disk for each wipe pass, making it slower, and probably a lot noisier... That one large video may be a contiguous 100MB block on your home HD, but could be thousands of pieces at work.
Also your work machine may have more Temp files if many apps are running or being installed/updated, or if it has a larger web cache folder, or for many other reasons (though this could be true of your home PC too). Don't assume that the 2 machines have the same amount to clean.
If the post-clean report says the same number & size of files were cleaned, but the time was vastly different, try defragging both machines and see what difference that makes. bear in mind that Windows XP defrag can still leaves some gaps between files, so a new big test file could still take different times to clean!
Basically, I'd suggest you be glad that it is fast at home. If you are doing stuff at work that needs a 7-pass cleanup, I would suggest you stop
Another quick point - your subject implies that you could recover wiped files, please be more careful how you phrase your questions. If you can't recover your files, then secure deletion worked pretty well
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I'm using WinXP Pro 32-bit, so sorry I can't let you know my experiences. I can, however, tell you that in version 1.28 of CCleaner (due out in a couple days) there will be full 64-bit OS support, so that should solve your problem.
Where do you get your information??
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This is actually not a officially released Alpha version of Firefox.
It is rebranded developement build with or something like that.
I was about to say that
CCleaner can be made to clean anything you like via winapp2.ini. (General warning for anyone tempted to hunt down the exciting-sounding 2.0-branded test builds) If you don't know enough about this release of Firefox & CCleaner to make this happen, you shouldn't be using development builds!
Firefox is great and all that, but only the most recent certified release should be used for anything other than curiosity or testing. Until 2.0 goes gold it *will* have bugs, and possibly security holes, that's just the way dev builds are. By all means check your pages in it, but don't go banking or opening 12 tabs of vital research, just in case...
FF2.0 final might conform to the same file layout and functionality as older versions, but CC looks for specific registry keys or certain files in order to identify apps. Since FF2 didn't exist when the current CC was released (and still doesn't!), you'll need to make your own update or wait for MrG to take the initiative.
And yes, you might well think "I've never had any problems". Fair enough, that may be lucky or just a sign of FF's quality, but running nightly builds explicitly means you are living with developers' half-a-job code when they check in their changes and go home. For anyone who doesn't use test builds, please don't get tempted away from 1.5.0.1 just yet...
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I see what you mean about bit streaming, and yes, a regular backup could be better if Ghosting has its own issues.
However my point still stands that the previous data of occupied sectors is the issue here, and trying to reduce or remove any recoverable traces of old files between the backup and the restore would be good...
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I was also thinking that defragging would aid a tool in this paranoid way of securely wiping data, however then there's also the case of files that defrag won't move - not because they're locked, but because of their size.
I can see how it could be part of a defrag tool, but as mentioned many files stay in one place for many reasons - also defragging is very drive-wear-intensive compared to current free space wiping.
I would rather see a boot-time process (like partition managment) that could remove then replace file data in small chunks, scrubbing "below" them in between. Probably would be a high risk operation though, in the event of power failure.
Alternatively maybe something like Norton Ghost could include an overnight feature to take an image of an entire drive, scrub the whole thing, then replace files exactly... At least that would involve a backup before any sectors were sanitised.
But obviously you'd need a 2nd, and huge, tape drive/HD to backup onto. I'm the only person I know with everything backed up regularly (I have SyncBack SE running profiles for about 100GB of stuff).
Perhaps if you are that concerned about your entire drive, you could buy a new internal HD instead of a backup drive, then melt down your old one.
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If you have any apps open (thinking Photoshop and similar) they may well have large, locked temporary files in the Temp directory. Try running CC just after booting the PC, before running anything else.
You will probably find that CC doesn't find such large files if you are not running other apps, since the program using that temp file will more often than not remove it when closed...
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Look at the post "Add a program to winapp2.ini" ( http://forum.ccleaner.com/index.php?showtopic=1110 ) - you might have more luck having it detected and deleted that way. However, if the history is part of a config file, i.e. there is more content in that file, deleting it with CC would either reset all of your config options to default or prevent SoulSeek from launching altogether (it may need the file to exist).
Does soulSeek not have an option to not remember its own history? perhaps a SoulSeek user will be able to help more.
Good luck