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@nukecad I thought I had run CHKDSK but at my age its a good possibility that I thought about it and forgot to do it . Must write a check list next time. Start up speed about the same but by the clock, its acceptable, so my impatience needs to be reigned in. Comments noted about use of 2 defrag programmes, I hadn't intended to use both but I do like "pretty graphics". Will explore changing to SSD's, that's a job for the winter when I am bored. Thanks again, appreciate your help.

@nukecad Wow what a list of checks, thank you. Results etc as follows:- Ran adware, found one pup-quarantined. Have Malwarebytes with browser guard, installed and run it once a week. In windows settings-startup, only 4 from a list of 12 are set to on, Edge is set to off. Ccleaner, tools-startup, only 4 of 10 enabled. I use Ccleaner weekly Defragmenter issue-will give you the good news at the end........ @hazelnut Drive is a SATA, Toshiba DT01ACA100, A 1TB hard drive, Used, 179gb free 751gb Tried Defrag from properties Tools box-didn't work. Ran Error check from the properties-Tools and .......................... DFRAG WORKED ON RESTART it now launches from start menu and Tools tab in drive properties. A thousand apologies to Defraggler for blaming you. :-) To conclude the answer to your questions, even though they are now irrelevant. I am a bit old school and loved the old type of defrag, could watch it for hours. The Win 10 one shows nothing but numbers and gives me little confidence. Defragler seemed more thorough and I could see what it was doing, it also did a considerable amount of file moving straight after doing a Win 10 defrag, giving the impression that it was doing a more thorough job than the standard defrag tool. so I will give my PC a couple of days to see how its doing and then reinstall Defraggler. I may have mislead a bit with regard to file explorer and launching defrag. To clarify, I always launch it from the start menu, my reference to file explorer was to say that the defrag folder and associated files were still present in file explorer and therefore it was still installed on my PC. Finally nukecad, your a star in my books, thank you so much for your help.

Thanks nukecad for the info. I had done a SFC scan that showed everything was okay but was too impatient and stopped the DISM scan before it started. I have now redone them again as per your instructions, SFC shows no errors and DSM reports "completed successfully". Have timed start up and it close to three minutes before I can launch a programme and while it seems much longer when waiting I don't think that's too bad. I am now left with the Windows defrag issue that I am 95% sure has been caused by the install (and subsequent uninstall) of Defraggler. I click to start it and nothing happens. Have tried many things as advised on line, including a registry fix, with no success, any thoughts?

Not happy with the Win 10 Defrag for numerous reasons I decided to try Defraggler. On first use it took a considerable amount of time to complete its task but that wasn't an issue. I then found that my system was taking a long time to start and almost as long to close down. My first thought was that maybe Defraggler had configured my files differently and hence a possible cause of the problem. So I tried to use the window defrag, it wouldn't respond. Have now removed Defraggler and still windows defrag will not load despite it showing in file explorer. Has Defraggler made a change in the registry that I cannot find? I really need to get the windows defrag working so as I can eliminate a possible "defragment" issue caused by Defraggler. Have tried numerous "fixes" from the internet but either they show setting as correct or any I change ,make no difference, hence I suspect its a registry issue. Any help would be appreciated.