ted_s Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 ver 2.36.1233 on win xp pro w/sp2 Tools/startup -saved to txt file :: Yes HKLM:Run Alcmtr ALCMTR.EXE Yes HKLM:Run RTHDCPL RTHDCPL.EXE Yes HKLM:Run avast5 "D:\AVAST\avastUI.exe" /nogui Yes HKLM:Run TM Control C:\WINDOWS\system32\TMController.exe No HKLM:Run ATICustomerCare "C:\Program Files\ATI\ATICustomerCare\ATICustomerCare.exe" No Startup Common C:\PROGRAM FILES\ArcSoft\TOTALMEDIA\TMMONITOR.EXE the last entry when running reads :: c:\progra~1\arcsoft\totalm~1\tmmoni~1.exe I cant start it or delete it. warns me that I will be perm deleteing it - click okay nothing happens. where is ccleaner getting this list so I can delete it there ? MS used to have a folder where it kept this list of startups but unless its under some weird folder (gee ms never does that LOL) I cant find this list. any help ? ? ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishan_rulz Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Go to start > Run amd type 'msconfig' Over there, you can check the Startup Tab. Simplicity is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_s Posted October 2, 2010 Author Share Posted October 2, 2010 the bottom line in question is not in the msconfig list. (I looked there before, and now again just to make sure i didnt miss it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 disable entry's are stored under keys HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg No fate but what we make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_s Posted October 2, 2010 Author Share Posted October 2, 2010 disable entry's are stored under keys HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg well, that didnt do much shared tools msconfig only list the one that is turned off. curr ver run msconfig shows everything EXCEPT the line I want LOL along with 'KEY run' which adds a pchealth line. LOL even tried to creat a folder ' progra~1 ' to add the sub folders etc guess ms didnt want the diff 'program files' and its shortnd version of 8 char at the same time LOL this seems like a hang up listing prob in ccleaner, cept when I ran msconfig it crated a line in startup and the bad line moved down and back up when I deleted the msconfig entry LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 You asked where cleaner got that entry from. No Startup Common C:\PROGRAM FILES\ArcSoft\TOTALMEDIA\TMMONITOR.EXE I listed it. No fate but what we make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_s Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 So, how do I get it out of ccleaners startup list ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ident Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 So, how do I get it out of ccleaners startup list ? did u try deleting it? No fate but what we make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethec Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Please update to SP3. SP2 is no longer supported by Microsoft. Piriform French translator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy2 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 No, don't look in the subkey ......\Startupreg but in the subkey HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder. Just manually remove the orphan info in that subkey. There could be a shortcut to the forenamed program in one or more of the startup folders in C:\Documents and Settings\<-User->\Menu start\Programs\Startup\ as well. System setup: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/gcNzIPEjEb0B2khOOBVCHPc A discussion always stimulates the braincells !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_s Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 No, don't look in the subkey ......\Startupreg but in the subkey HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupfolder. Just manually remove the orphan info in that subkey. There could be a shortcut to the forenamed program in one or more of the startup folders in C:\Documents and Settings\<-User->\Menu start\Programs\Startup\ as well. the startup had the label that matched my ccleaner listing (see original post) with the ~ shortend to 8 car. retyped it to full spelling. restarted - ccleaner listed it without the ! short version so that is WHERE it got the listing - but no binary's or digit labels in this reg-file that could be changed to allow delete in ccleaner. must be in some other binary list that only a master reg dude can figure out LOL but - still no changeing it from is current 'disabled' status to on or delete. further searching:: The ' all users ' ,'startup' folder only has 'desktop.ini' which has zip inside about any loads. the same with 'administrator',, 'default user' and named user. the 'disabled startup items' folder is empty. local service and network dont have zip either. used regseeker search :: C:\PROGRAM FILES\ArcSoft got 30 listings - 4 with "strings too long", so I couldnt tell what the end of the line should be. None listed ''tmmonitor.exe" after the \totalmedia\ did a search on just "tmmonitor.exe" - got 6 hits - All with {string too long} notes 5 in cuurent_user - one in local_machine ((wish regseeker would let me highlight and copy LOL)) list follows:: one from ProgramsCache - windows\currentversion\explorer\startpage\ one from IconStreams a "tray notify" and 3 "desktop" lines with different "itempos ...... and the local_machine is a software\microsft\win\CurVer\appmngt\arpcach\ - - zillion digit a/n title labeled as "SlowInfoCache" - - - - - Oh.. in the "start\all programs\start " folder - empty with only the desktop.ini ..BUT,, Did a search for "starup" - found 2 entries (out of 112) """ local_machine "" software\micro\shared tools\maconfig'starupfolder \c:^doc-settng^allusers . . . . . . . .^startmenu^programs^startup^TMMONITOR.lnk """ So.....at this point i am thinking to uninstall arcsoft and tm control - run ccleaner to see if its gone - run reg to clean out anything left from uninstall - this SHOULD get rid of it from ccleaner. then the pain to re install #$^^$ been doing this crap for another prob that cost me some bucks to fix and still comeing up with problems other (or maybe connected) than this. any more ideas LOL LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy2 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 1. Use a program called ""Everything"" which searches the entire disk and lists every file. It allows you to search for one particular file or files. Very good tool. 2. Yes, uninstalling a program is sometimes the best solution. Do the following: Uninstall the program(s), clean (with e.g. CC, Eusing free reg-cleaner, jv power tools 1.16) and compact the registry (e.g NTregopt), install ERUNT (both ntregopt and ERUNT are made by lars hederer, ERUNT allows you to reinstate a previous version of the registry) and re-install the program(s). 3. A name with one or more ~ in it, is a name from the directory entry. The full name is stored in the MFT. 4. I think the info in the registry (...../Startupfolder) is damaged and then CC could fail to remove the info. Removing that info/subkey manually is IMO the best solution. System setup: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/gcNzIPEjEb0B2khOOBVCHPc A discussion always stimulates the braincells !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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