@nukecad What worked initially on October 16th for my friend was to play with the Edge toggle switches -- turn startup boost on as well as the background processes -- restart -- turn back off and restart. That worked until the latest Edge update a day or so ago. I had my friend repeat turning the toggles back on and off -- restarting. That appears to work, but not all the time. As mentioned in my original thread, I can't check my machines as I'm still not back in my home thanks to Hurricane Ian.
After reading and scouring several Windows 10 and 11 forums, I am quite certain that this particular issue with Edge is not the fault of CCleaner Free or CCleaner Pro.
We are all familiar with the fact that some Windows updates change some settings. But in this case with Edge, it seems some recent Edge updates are keeping Edge processes running in the background, even though the Edge settings toggle switches for startup boost and background processes are turned off. This is a Microsoft issue. Only MS knows if it's being done deliberately. Further muddling things, some people report the problem happens all the time now -- others see it come and go. This would all be a moot point if Microsoft would actually respect user settings.
I'm also having the same problem. When I use CCleaner I get the pop up message that Edge is still open. This problem was present last year and the forum gave me an answer to fix the problem. Now the issue has reappeared. Any suggestions? See attached screen shots. Thanks
I found out on my system at least that during one of the umpteen updates for Edge Chromium that it has places itself to run on startup in the Windows registry in one of the Run key areas.
It can be disabled or deleted from doing that in CCleaner, instructions:
1. Open CCleaner.
2. Go into: Tools > Startup > Windows (tab).
3. Locate the Edge reference and highlight/select it and choose to either Disable or Delete it.
4. Close CCleaner.
5. Recommended but not necessary: Restart the computer.
If it was located in the Windows registry Run key area it will likely get placed in there again sometime in the future during another Edge Chromium update.
@Andavari Interesting! BTW -- last Edge update was last Thursday and the issue hasn't come back on both of my friend's computers since then. That will probably change. ?
Edge Chromium is just annoying, I don't like it at all, and don't like that it's forced upon my sysstem! That's why I don't use it, but since it's the system default browser it must be kept up-to-date.
Today opening Edge noticed there update-page. Short time seemed things might be back to normal, but more i started open /close browser, nothing changed.
Seemed something forced browser back to wrong settings. First it was like, if i close browser, i am out of website and no backgr. processes?
But then same problems continue soon. I must use google chrome and long time thinking of changing laptop to chromebook too,
although there is not hdmi-place for some reason in those, but i could use adapter maybe.
Group Policy Editor ("GPE") is only in Win10/11 Pro, albeit there are ways to make it install and work on Home Editions because it's technically already installed on those systems too.
I've had that box toggled to Enabled in GPE for ages at this point (so long ago I forgot when I did it since back then I didn't write a comment like "Enabled on: <date, time>"), and Windows ignores it. Problem with GPE is some things can get outdated and no longer used.
If you are running Windows 11 (I am, but I am very new to it), note that there is a setting under control panel/power options for Fast Startup that may keep certain programs running. I have turned off Fast Startup and my "Edge needs to close" message has gone away. You may need to reboot after turning it off to see the result.
This is different from Startup Boost, FYI. I had that turned off and I still got the message.
Note that it will take some longer for the OS to start. That's fine by me.
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If you are running Windows 11 (I am, but I am very new to it), note that there is a setting under control panel/power options for Fast Startup that may keep certain programs running. I have turned off Fast Startup and my "Edge needs to close" message has gone away. You may need to reboot after turning it off to see the result.
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This is different from Startup Boost, FYI. I had that turned off and I still got the message.
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Note that it will take some longer for the OS to start. That's fine by me.
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That not good to me , if edge keeps sometimes running background and sometimes not, /you never know how and how long that happens/, it is problem of browser,
solution is to slow down your computer? Instead i use other browser. If goes one year without sometimes testing edge use and then not receive "needs to close" ..
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If you are running Windows 11 (I am, but I am very new to it), note that there is a setting under control panel/power options for Fast Startup that may keep certain programs running. <strong>I have turned off Fast Startup and my "Edge needs to close" message has gone away</strong>. You may need to reboot after turning it off to see the result...
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That not good to me , if edge keeps sometimes running background and sometimes not, /you never know how and how long that happens/, it is problem of browser, solution is to slow down your computer? Instead i use other browser....
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Hi user20182019:
Just an FYI that I always recommend that Win 8.x and higher users disable Fast Startup as instructed in Option # 2 of Brink’s ElevenForums tutorial How to Turn On or Off Fast Startup in Windows 11 and then re-boot a few times to ensure the setting change takes effect. The Fast Startup power option (also known as hybrid boot-up / hybrid shutdown) is enabled by default in Win 10 and Win 11 but it can sometimes interfere with the loading of drivers and services at boot-up and cause all sorts of unexpected glitches and problems. Many third-party software manufacturers recommend that their customers turn off Fast Startup (see Malwarebytes employee AdvancedSetup's tutorial Disable-Fast-Startup for one example) and Microsoft has acknowledged that Fast Startup can even interfere with the installation of updates by Windows Update (see the MS support article Updates May Not Be Installed With Fast Startup in Windows 10).
When I purchase a new computer one of the the first things I do is to turn off Fast Startup to ensure my drivers and services are initialized correctly at boot-up, and the amount of time this adds to my shutdown / boot-up times is negligible. If disabling Fast Startup and testing for a few days doesn't fix your MS Edge problem and you find this is adding a significant amount of time to the boot-up on your own computer then just turn Fast Startup back on.
From Control Panel | Hardware and Sound | Power Options | Choose What The Power Buttons Do | Shutdown Settings on my Win 10 computer, which shows Fast Startup is disabled (unchecked):
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Just an FYI that I always recommend that Win 8.x and higher users <strong>disable Fast Startup</strong> as instructed in Option # 2 of Brink’s ElevenForums tutorial <em><a href="https://www.elevenforum.com/t/turn-on-or-off-fast-startup-in-windows-11.1212/#Two" rel="external nofollow">How to Turn On or Off Fast Startup in Windows 11</a></em> and then <strong>re-boot</strong> a few times to ensure the setting change takes effect. The Fast Startup power option (also known as hybrid boot-up / hybrid shutdown) is enabled by default in Win 10 and Win 11 but it can sometimes interfere with the loading of drivers and services at boot-up and cause all sorts of unexpected glitches and problems. Many third-party software manufacturers recommend that their customers turn off Fast Startup (see Malwarebytes employee AdvancedSetup's tutorial <em><a href="https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/299350-disable-fast-startup/" rel="external nofollow">Disable-Fast-Startup</a></em> for one example) and Microsoft has acknowledged that Fast Startup can even interfere with the installation of updates by Windows Update (see the MS support article <em><a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/deployment/updates-not-install-with-fast-startup" rel="external nofollow">Updates May Not Be Installed With Fast Startup in Windows 10</a></em>).
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When I purchase a new computer one of the the first things I do is to turn off Fast Startup to ensure my drivers and services are initialized correctly at boot-up, and the amount of time this adds to my shutdown / boot-up times is negligible. If disabling Fast Startup and testing for a few days doesn't fix your MS Edge problem and you find this is adding a significant amount of time to the boot-up on your own computer then just turn Fast Startup back on.
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From Control Panel | Hardware and Sound | Power Options | Choose What The Power Buttons Do | Shutdown Settings on my Win 10 computer, which shows Fast Startup is disabled (unchecked):
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<span style="font-size:11px;">Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3803 * Firefox v121.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * CCleaner Free Portable v6.19.10858</span>
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All right, i find where that is , i have that on, have to think.