SanguiniusX
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not necessarily.
the drive could be fine - OR - it could be heading towards a failure (as all drives are really), which is why backups were invented.
SMART values by themselves are not a sign of pending failure, they are a guide and should be used as a warning.
the values give no perspective on rate of growth or date of last error.
for example, reallocation errors, although never nice, are very common. all storage devices have inconsistencies.
the number is not the important factor (granted - don't ignore it) but you need to keep an eye on whether it increases and how fast.
see how it changes over the next few weeks. the fact it hasn't changed in the last few days also indicates the drive is in no more immediate danger of failing than any other drive ever is.
I had a PC years ago that on boot up said "Drive failure imminent, replaced drive immediately" that performed just fine for over two years.
I'd be running HDTUNE on your Seagate Expansion drive as well.
Well the main reason for concern about the Toshiba is that my OS is on that. If the others are heading towards failure I can transfer files around. I think I'll get a Samsung Evo 850 and put the OS on there and key files, should be an upgrade to the system as well and use my existing drives for lower usage bulk storage. That'll hopefully help extend their useful life.
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- I thought Defraggler would show which of those SMART attributes have a too high a value (and like GSmartControl) show those lines in a different color (developers ???).
- The word "Reallocated" means that there was one or more weak spots and that those spots won't be used anymore in the future. But then the read/write head needs to move to a different spot on the HD to read/write those newly allocated disk-blocks.
- Run "HD Tune". That program can scan the surface of your HD and tell where the damaged spots are. If those bad spots are at the beginning of the HD then I wouldn't wait too long. I haven't got the fainstest clue how much time it will take before the HD finally "dies". But I personally wouldn't take any chances.
I did the hdtune scan, took a few hours but it came up all green which is surprising.
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Not sure I follow your meaning. Do you think it still shows the Internal HDD to be in a state of pre-failure and needing replacing? If so, do you think it gives any indication how urgent this is?
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Can you not see this link? https://postimg.org/image/5nbipl1cp/ if it seems a bit small at first you can click on it and it gets bigger.
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The piriform defragger doesn't seem to show a problem which is strange, or can you see something different in the link https://postimg.org/image/5nbipl1cp/ ?
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Actually I just added a link:-
https://postimg.org/image/5nbipl1cp/
This is what I can get from the defrag.
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I suppose I have noticed it's a bit nosier than usual for a while now and maybe a bit slower. The thing to do now really is just to buy a new internal hard drive?
That seems a bit of a shame it's really not that old and doesn't get used that heavily, though I have heard these TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 aren't too reliable, guess this is another unreliable one then, likely to stay away from Toshiba in future.
I have the piriform defrag, does it have a print screen function? I also don't see on this posting system how to attach a file from my pc, does it have to be a link?
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Willy2, on 26 Dec 2016 - 08:22 AM, said:Willy2, on 26 Dec 2016 - 08:22 AM, said:
- When SPECCY shows the message "Warning" then something is definitely WRONG !!!!!!!!!!
Run SPECCY again. Select "File", "Publish snapshot" and post the weblink that pops up in your next reply.
There're 2 programs that can tell us more.
- Run GSmartcontrol ans tell us how many red(-ish)/pink(-ish) lines (except for "Temperature") show up in the "Attributes" tab. (post a screenshot ??). That will tell us more.
http://gsmartcontrol.sourceforge.net/home/index.php/
- Piriform's DEFRAGGLER also has a "Health" tab that shows similar info. Post a screenshot as well.
(My HDD never had any problems. So, I don't if this program if & how this program would flag any SMART problems)
- Keep us posted.
Okay thanks, here's the link you asked for, just search for "warning":-
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/1zAukRxPF0RJvJTzOgOzJZY
I'll update with the other stuff when I get it.
I did a quick test with GMsmartcontrol and got this:-
smartctl 5.43 2012-06-30 r3573 [i686-w64-mingw32-win7(64)-sp1] (sf-5.43-1)
Copyright © 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: TOSHIBA DT01ACA200
Serial Number: 641H86UGS
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000039 ffac6f06c
Firmware Version: MX4OABB0
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4
Local Time is: Mon Dec 26 15:28:35 2016 GMTST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x85) Offline data collection activity
was aborted by an interrupting command from host.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (14631) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 244) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 140 140 054 Pre-fail Offline - 67
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 121 121 024 Pre-fail Always - 313 (Average 313)
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1263
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 16
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 124 124 020 Pre-fail Offline - 33
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5153
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1255
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1364
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1364
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 240 240 000 Old_age Always - 25 (Min/Max 8/38)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 17
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 5153 -
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
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Well that's the general warning then, why it's "warning". So that means investigating everything as I don't know any thing that's causing it.
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Hmmmm.... looks OK to me.
Nothing stands out as wrong.
So, the Status Warning was already in bold?
No it wasn't in bold, I just did that to highlight the bit that concerned me. All of the S.M.A.R.T attributes warnings are fine then? How do you read them? Is there a chart or something somewhere?
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Hello piriform Speccy is showing:-
TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 ATA Device
Manufacturer TOSHIBA
Heads 16
Cylinders 243,201
Tracks 62,016,255
Sectors 3,907,024,065
SATA type SATA-III 6.0Gb/s
Device type Fixed
ATA Standard ATA8-ACS
Serial Number 641H86UGS
Firmware Version Number MX4OABB0
LBA Size 48-bit LBA
Power On Count 1254 times
Power On Time 214.6 days
Speed 7200 RPM
Features S.M.A.R.T., APM, NCQ
Max. Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s
Used Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s
Interface SATA
Capacity 1863 GB
Real size 2,000,398,934,016 bytes
RAID Type None
S.M.A.R.T
Status Warning
Temperature 29 °C
Temperature Range OK (less than 50 °C)
S.M.A.R.T attributes
Attribute name Real value Current Worst Threshold Raw Value Status
01 Read Error Rate 0 100 100 16 0000000000 Good
02 Throughput Performance 67 140 140 54 0000000043 Good
03 Spin-Up Time 20513081 ms 121 121 24 0001390139 Good
04 Start/Stop Count 1,262 100 100 0 00000004EE Good
05 Reallocated Sectors Count 16 100 100 5 0000000010 Good
07 Seek Error Rate 0 100 100 67 0000000000 Good
08 Seek Time Performance 33 124 124 20 0000000021 Good
09 Power-On Hours (POH) 214d 14h 100 100 0 000000141E Good
0A Spin Retry Count 0 100 100 60 0000000000 Good
0C Device Power Cycle Count 1,254 100 100 0 00000004E6 Good
C0 Power-off Retract Count 1,363 99 99 0 0000000553 Good
C1 Load/Unload Cycle Count 1,363 99 99 0 0000000553 Good
C2 Temperature 19 °C 253 253 0 0000080013 GoodC4 Reallocation Event Count 17 100 100 0 0000000011 Good
C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 0 0000000000 Good
C6 Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100 100 0 0000000000 Good
C7 UltraDMA CRC Error Count 0 200 200 0 0000000000 GoodPartition 0
Partition ID Disk #0, Partition #0
File System NTFS
Volume Serial Number BEA3F3CF
Size 5.86 GB
Used Space 3.08 GB (52%)
Free Space 2.78 GB (48%)
Partition 1
Partition ID Disk #0, Partition #1
Disk Letter C:
File System NTFS
Volume Serial Number 24A561E9
Size 1857 GB
Used Space 1259 GB (67%)
Free Space 597 GB (33%)Can anyone read this to explain what exactly the "status" warning is about? Thanks.
Hdd Warning
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I've never heard of that, I'll look into it.