[Ccleaner causes Windows 10 Start button stop working]

Hi

 

For those interested after putting a new Win 10 enterprise image on my system and deselecting both "MUI Cache" plus "Start Menu Ordering" option in the registry section of cCleaner ir worked flawlessly for over 3 months

Just for the hell of it I re-select both items & presto when I run cCleaner my start menu was wrecked. I have done no further work to isolate which one it is.suffice to say it is one or the other or both so I deselect, & re-image

System is up & running does anyone else want to have a poke at this? Should the developer deselect those options by default & invoke a caveat emptor for those wishing to experiment with them on their windows 10 Box?

 

 

Kind Regards

MrPj2u

[Ccleaner causes Windows 10 Start button stop working]

JeremyGNJ

 

This thread is only about the start menu issue.

 

Please talk about your many issues in your own thread .

Is there anyone actually taking this thread seriously or has it been largely ignored by everyone including the developers?

I ask this because I don't see too much happening by way of Q & A or general discussion, news or feedback on this topic.

 

To add to our smarts pool I took time to do a full clean win 10 system rebuild, I imaged the drive then installed cCleaner

I then unchecked the option boxes for MUI Cache, & Start Menu Order, the system, plus cCleaner performed flawlessly.

 

I then reinstated the option boxes for MUI Cache, & Start Menu Order, and reran cCleaner the problem was replicated

I ran out of time to find out which one is the culprit MUI Cache or Start Menu Order are these options being investigated

 

Anyone want to explain those options in detail, what they affect, why they're there why they are default & when to disable

 

Kind Regards

MrPj2u

[Ccleaner causes Windows 10 Start button stop working]

Just speculating, but what I would pay attention to first is the "Clear menu order cache" option in CCleaner.

 

Since Wndows 10 start menu stores the menu order and layout in a completely different way, this particular option in CCleaner might potentially corrupt or remove the new start menu ESENT database

Hi

 

I am curious because I am unsure after I looked at the options can you advise if you meant the MUI Cache (I assume this stands for most used instruction cache)  as i is the only one mentioning the word "cache" in the list)

Alternately did you mean "Start Menu Order" as this i the only one I can find that mentions the word "menu", or are both of these settings involved, any advice appreciated. In the interim I unchecked both boxes on my Pc's

 

Kind Regards

MrPj2u

 

BTW If anyone else has some clues on this please throw your hat and your ideas in the ring for analysis (trial & error)

[Ccleaner causes Windows 10 Start button stop working]

Registry cleaning and not knowing exactly what's being removed is a tried and true way of messing up a computer, even if said registry cleaner is deemed by most of us as being more gentle.

I see

 

Well that's not a very helpful answer, I could take a hex dump of the registry import the registry backup do a second hex dump and analyze what was being removed and in 6 months time I may have the answer

That's why I thought I'd ask around in this forum I did not expect to be flamed by a novice smart arse with a real cheap shot that does nothing to further the discussion and nothing to solve the problem of users

 

Kind Regards

MrPj2u

[Ccleaner causes Windows 10 Start button stop working]

Just speculating, but what I would pay attention to first is the "Clear menu order cache" option in CCleaner.

 

Since Wndows 10 start menu stores the menu order and layout in a completely different way, this particular option in CCleaner might potentially corrupt or remove the new start menu ESENT database

 

Hi

Do you mean the MUI Cache as my understanding this is the most used instruction cache (and the onle one mentioning cache in the list) or  do you mean Start Menu Order as this i the only one that mentions menu or are they both involved

 

Kind Regards

MrPj2u

[Ccleaner causes Windows 10 Start button stop working]

Hi

I too have had problems with cCleaner disabling the start menu in Windows 10 it occurred immediately after doing a registry clean on 3 out of my 5 windows 10 Machines.

To prove this was not a fluke or an adoration I dropped a brand new drive in each machine & a clean image from the master backup the new images were tested 100% ok

 

Tried again same result these machines are all different permutations of ASUS motherboards with different AMD processors, & all use AMD on-board DVI / HDMI graphics

Some are 64 bit, & some are 32 bit so the only thing clear cut is that without using cCleaner no issues, do a registry clean problems straight after using it so its a problem.

 

I've been using cCleaner for many many years & have occasionally donated (not relevant). People whom I support ie friends relatives and clients who also use it report this

I have stopped using it and I have advised all that I support not to use it until something definitive is known, because every supposed known menu fix does nothing to fix this.

 

I would appreciate any helpful clues / suggestions ect 

 

Kind Regards

MrPj2u