[Issue with "Options / Include"]

I'll try out your suggestions later... Thank you.

 

The delete folder itself option was introduced in v2.30. Then the complaints started to come in. So, the find and delete algorithm works well. But CC can go ""off the deep end"" when it's told to delete a folder itself when empty. Because it not always works properly on different computers makes me think that this is a ""memory"" issue.

 

You reminded me of one matter - though it's probably not significant... In a BAT file, one way to check if a FOLDER EXISTS is to execute "IF EXIST X:\PATH\TO\FOLDER\NUL"... That test has been broken in most/all versions of Windows, going back to Win95, and maybe 3.1/3.11. If CC happens to be using something like that....

 

- Mike

[Issue with "Options / Include"]

Thanks, Willy2, for updating the thread.

 

Just in case...

 

I've tried the new build of CC, but the issue remains in it.

 

On one computer the ""Include"" option worked like it was supposed to.

In some tests a few weeks ago, this computer also (wrongly) deleted the stated folder, but in more recent tests it never does. I do not know why this behaviour has changed.

 

I tried many many combinations of the main CC options, on both PCs, and could not identify any impact on this bug. The 2 PCs are very similar (XP-SP3, exact same folder, etc), so the problem does not seem to be related to the parsing of PATHs and folder-names.

 

- Mike.

[Issue with "Options / Include"]

Small update: I ran a few more simple tests...

 

- In all these cases where the stated folder (ie, stated in the INCLUDE option) was NOT EMPTY, then the folder itself was NOT deleted (correct action).

 

- In all cases where the stated folder WAS EMPTY, then the folder itself was deleted (incorrectly).

 

Perhaps that's the full explanation of the bug! If so, my apologies for not spotting it earlier.

 

- Mike.

[Issue with "Options / Include"]

Weird ! It seems we're using two different versions of CC v2.32.

Perhaps, but (I assume) it's very unlikely...

 

1. Did you install Recuva as well ? Because in another thread someone un-installed Recuva and according to him, his problem with CC disappeared.

AFAIK, Recuva was not installed when I was running the tests.

 

2. Perhaps unticking a number or boxes will to resolve the issue ? I have only a very few boxes permanently ticked and ""Include"" does work without any problem.

I use mostly the default settings and default install, with, perhaps, 2/3 other options set, - and, obviously, our troublesome "include" bits. I'll experiment a little with some of these, though I could end up with thousands of combos to test!

 

Frankly, I have ran out of suggestions.

No probs... Thank YOU very much for participating in the thread. Hopefully, others will be alerted, and, hopefully, someone browsing the source will have an "aaaah!!" moment, and fix it!

 

- Mike

[Issue with "Options / Include"]

Willy,

 

Apologies for the delay...

 

I ran some tests as well. But it's my experience that CC always takes the lastest wipe option from the ""Include"" section into account. Even when the user changes the wipe option between ""Analyze"" and ""Run Cleaner"".

Good. I just suggested that as a possible explanation. I was wrong!

 

That's why I think, it's important that the ""Include"" section should be improved, as I have described in another thread. The user should be able to see which wipe option has been selected for each line.

Agreed!

 

I since tried CC on another PC. Exactly as per the conditions in my first post in this thread. And it DID delete the stated folder (when it should not have done so). I tried re-loading CC, manually re-creating the folder, etc, and, in the few tests I ran, it DID delete the folder EVERY time. I did NOT yet create/check the INI file - maybe CREATING the INI file will have an effect! Very strange!

 

- Mike

[Issue with "Options / Include"]

Willy,

 

Did you click on ""OK"" after changing the wipe option in that menu ?

Yes.

 

And the subsequent "Edit" option (of the same line, and the INI file) confirmed the settings.

 

I took a look at what CC stores in ""Ccleaner.ini"" in three cases:

-- ""Include files only"":

Include1=PATH|C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\|*.*

-- ""Include files and subfolders"":

Include1=PATH|C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\|*.*|RECURSE

-- ""Include files, subfolders and the folder itself"":

Include1=PATH|C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\|*.*|REMOVESELF

 

CC doesn't give the user information which wipe option the user has selected for each line. And that's an additional reason for confusion.

Yep - I agree fully that these INCLUDE/EXCLUDE screens are confusing - as per your other thread here. Every time I use them, I have to "experiment" with the settings, to achieve the result I want - especially with the "Drive/Folder" bits...

 

In my INI file, the "RECURSE" option was active.

 

To repeat: the issue is that the REMOVESELF option seems to be active in the code, even when the RECURSE option is selected.

 

Update: I ran some more tests, and, sometimes, the "main" folder is NOT deleted - which is the correct behaviour. I don't know what conditions hold it (correctly), and what conditions delete it. Maybe, if these settings are adjusted, the new values are not correctly activated internally until the code is reloaded?

 

- Mike

[Issue with "Options / Include"]

Don't worry. The folder will be re-created at the next 2nd tuesday of the month when the Microsoft Autoupdate feature will be activated again and your windows system is updated. Of course, if it's keeping you awake at night then you can manually create that folder as well.

I agree with both sentiments - however, I quoted the "Download" folder merely to ILLUSTRATE the issue.

 

I tried the ""Include"" feature but it did precisely what it was supposed to do.

That differs from my experience - as per the example I quoted.

 

If you want to know which file wipe option was selected then do the following:

1. Select a line.

2. Click on ""edit"".

3. At the bottom of the menu you'll see which option you did select (""Include files only"", ""Include files, subfolders"" or ""Including files, subfolders and the folder itself"").

Correct.

 

Apologies for the repetition: I chose the 2nd of the 3 "options" at point 3 - as confirmed by selecting the "Edit" function - yet CC DID delete the folder itself.

 

- Mike.

[Issue with "Options / Include"]

Hi,

 

Using latest build (v2.32.1165), under XP-SP3.

 

Under Options, Include, I specified:

- a Folder (actually C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\)

- "All Files"

- "Include Files and Subfolders"

 

CC correctly deletes all the Files and sub-folders, but it also deletes the "Download" folder. I would have expected that action if I had specified "Include files, subfolders and the folder itself".

 

Probably a small matter in most situations, but, sometimes, the absence of a folder could be problematic.

- Mike