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It is insane to expect the devs of ANY product to be interested in attending to a bug in software that has since been through 30 updates and a major new release.
Alan
i would think that would be a MAJOR reason that any dev would WANT to attend to it - that the "bug" has persisted through all of that development (perhaps sneaking by them)
...in any case, as Nergal has suggested, it may not be so much a bug as a functional limitation
http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=17351
though there does seem to be some cause for optimism for having this functionality in future ccleaner releases, since it appears that whitelisting safari cookies has been made to work in other programs
cheers
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thanks again
apparently it can run in the background or on demand - i only tried the free version (which doesn't allow whitelisting anything), but it does show what each browser's cookies are and allows differential cookie deletion (or also exclusion for the commercial product - see graphic)
best
btw, there seem to be other safari cookie managers that allow safari cookie whitelisting (even though some are mac based, it does apparently underscore that it is doable):
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I was just making a guess. However I don't know how it does it, nor if it allows for indiviual safari cookies or not (i'd never heard of it nor did it come up in any google searches for safari cookie management). It looks like it runs in the background on your P.C. so perhaps it hooks into safari.
thanks again
apparently it can run in the background or on demand - i only tried the free version (which doesn't allow whitelisting anything), but it does show what each browser's cookies are and allows differential cookie deletion (or also exclusion for the commercial product - see graphic)
best
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ok, i hadn't read that anywhere, so this would then explain that result
although it would be interesting to know how others (such as maxa cookie manager) get around this, as they seem to do
anyway, again thanks for the great piriform products (ALL of them) - i'll just have to re-login whenever i have ccleaner erase my safari cookies
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If you know you are wrong in cross posting don't cross post.
sorry, but is a one time cross-posting worse than a lack of suffient alert to an obvious ccleaner bug (in fact, one that has apparently been previously reported but still never addressed)?
i would have thought that piriform devs would very much appreciate being alerted to bugs
anyway, thanks for the great products and the quick response
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This may not be a bug as I may not have the proper preferences set, but I am unable to select which Safari cookies to keep and which to delete as I can with IE7.
A show cookies in Safari's Security tab will show indiviual cookies, yet running Analyze in CCleaner does not. CCleaner lists only *.plist files for cookies, history, downloads, etc. Is this why I don't have the option to keep individual cookies when I go to the Options-Cookies tab in CCleaner? There are no cookies listed at all in the left pane.
Using CCleaner Version 2.08.588 In Applications I have all blocks ticked for Safari except Saved Form Information
Using Safari Version 3.1.1 (525.17) Set to only accepts cookies from sites I navigate to and I have not cleaned cache
Its my understanding that CCleaner has been coded for Safari without the need for custom excludes or ini files. Is this correct?
sorry for the cross post - but in the interest of getting at least some other user (and hopefully dev) attention to what appears to be a prominent (though likely low demographic) bug, here is what i wrote on this now thrice reported and unresponded to (or anywhere else acknowledged) complaint:
reviving an old thread, i presume many like myself have just accepted that ccleaner's cookie "keep" exclusions (unlike with other browsers) do not work with Safari - that all of safari's cookies are removed regardless of whether they have been put into the ccleaner "keep" exclusions list
but rather than just accept that, i thought, why not ask about it and alert the devs to this
so a question for anyone is, for those of you who use safari and ccleaner and have cookie exclusions set up (likely a small demographic), can any of you report that your "keep" exclusion for safari cookies works with ccleaner?
i suspect not, which points to a clear ccleaner bug, as i am sure the devs intended for (and have presumed that) safari cookie exclusions to be honored
thanks
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Using CCleaner 2.10.618. with Safari 3.1.2 (XP). Cookies are not shown and my cookies exceptions are no longer working.
reviving an old thread, i presume many like myself have just accepted that safari cookies (unlike with other browsers) are not excluded when cleaning - that all of safari's cookies are removed regardless of whether they had been put into the "keep" exceptions list
but rather than just accept that, i thought, why not ask about it and alert the devs to this
so a question is, for those of you who use safari and ccleaner and have cookie exclusions set up (likely a small demographic), can any of you report that your "keep" exclusion for safari cookies works with ccleaner? (i suspect not, which points to a clear ccleaner bug, as i am sure the devs intended for (and presumed that) safari cookie exclusions to be honored
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Thanks for all the info.... I am going to try excluding Firefox from CCleaner and see if I get the same results as you. I don't have Slogger but I do have other Firefox add-ons which perhaps function in a similar way. Obviously I don't want to exclude Firefox from CCleaner completely (there would be no point running CCleaner at all in that case) but I think your suggestion of CC excluding certain files when it loads is a good one. Let's hope someone picks up on the idea.
my pleasure - and you don't need to permanently exclude firefox jiriji
maybe check in your FF profile folder (location described here: http://support.mozilla.com/en-us/kb/Profil...profile_stored_ ) for any folders nested within it that have MANY (ie., thousands +) files - then that plugin directory can be selectively excluded in ccleaner - thats what i did - i excluded the following specific directory from ccleaner that had way too many of the ccleaner index clogging files (your folder structures will differ):
C:\Documents and Settings\eb\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\jaf08uv6.default\slogger\
and if there is nothing like that anywhere in your firefox directory, then imo there will likely be something somewhere with too many files in another of the program folders that you have set up ccleaner to clean - you probably just need to determine which one has a LOT of files, and see if in fact (as i suspect) that is the one that is causing the very long indexing time
btw, an excellent free tool for checking on windows files and folders is treesize
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
good luck
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Thanks for taking the time to post back with this info.
Stay happy
my pleasure
i confirmed by testing that what i previously described was in fact the cause of the painfully long load up time for ccleaner, and that is now solved
but it does point out a potential development "refinement" for future versions of ccleaner:
rather than having ccleaner log every file in every folder in an assigned program's directory, prior to start up, perhaps a more "intelligent" ccleaner logging/indexing can occur, such that files that ccleaner would NOT clean (like the slogger xml files) be pre-emptively excluded/ignored from ccleaner load-up indexing/logging?
and thanks for continuing to make a great program better!
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Happy guy,
My solution of moving CC to a desktop folder only worked once (which was the same effect as closing CC and then reopening it) and is now back to its usual time delay.
Because it starts up quickly immediately after it's been opened and closed, I still think it's something memory-related to do with loading the program.
Maybe CCleaner needs a cleaner for itself
Hi Jiriji
I figured out what the problem is (for me anyway) - i had installed a firefox add-on called slogger, which can keep a copy of complete webpages that i visit for later offline retrieval
i had installed it into firefox a month ago but never actually set it up - it apparently defaulted on install to save a copy of every page i visited, in highly nested folders in my firefox profile folder - even though those pages didn't slow down firefox (since those pages aren't loaded by FF), ccleaner on first bootup apparently went into that directory and logged each file - and even though the total size of all the files was relatively small (56MB), because there were tens of thousands of small files (and getting bigger each day), ccleaner took a painfully long time to load
so, i first used ccleaner's exclude function to stop it from accessing the slogger directory- this by itself should solve the load delay problem
but then i further deleted all the past saved folders (which took over 30 mins for xp to delete them all!) - i then i set slogger up to only save a webpage if i manually direct it to
if you don't hear back from me here, then that was my problem and solution - if you don't happen to have slogger, i suspect it still could be something similar with your firefox - maybe check if you have installed any new addons and poke around there with settings etc
ccleaner is definitely going through (and apparently indexing) all the files in the program directories that it is assigned (by you) to clean, on load up - so if you have some many files somewhere in a directory that ccleaner is set to clean, even if it won't actually clean those files (for instance, somewhere in your firefox profile directory), then that may well be your problem
good luck and namaste!
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Which build do you have, the full with yahoo toolbar or the slim?
What about using the portable version as a workaround for now?
i too have this same problem - i have used ccleaner for a couple of years without any delay load problem, then about a month or so ago i started having the exact same delay load problem - i am using the most recent version (2.29.1111) but also tried going back to several much earlier versions to no avail - i also tried installing uninstalling and then installing the slim and then the portable versions, as well as running in safe mode, but it is also exactly as she describes - no speed up in loading
i even tried her purported solution, to load ccleaner (the portable version) to the desktop, but that also doesn't help for me
testing these takes awhile, because as she says, after an initial launch wait (of up to 15 minutes for me - and seems like it is getting longer), on close and then relaunch, it loads as fast as it used to
and checking the task manager when it is waiting to load up, shows the ccleaner process running, but not taking much by way of any noticeable resources (cpu/memory)
i do "hear" ccleaner rumbling around my hard drives after it is launched (but not yet loaded/displayed) - i do have (and have had for a couple years) several external usb drives - i will next test with those disconnected, but i have to wait until tomorrow now to do so
i will also run process explorer when it is in the delayed loading state, to see if i see anything going on
also, nothing shows up in the event viewer (no errors or events)
i am running xp, sp2 with updates as of probably 4 months ago - there was no update anywhere near prior to ccleaner's sluggish loading to possibly account for the change
too bad, a nifty little utility - but can't really complain since its free - just trying to find a solution
Problem With Safari Cookies
in CCleaner Bug Reporting
Posted
the most recent version of ccleaner absolutely still has this problem (non-whitelisting "keep" of safari cookies) for me - and it easy enough for anyone else to test (and i started my comment with an invitation for others to report their experience - idle speculation would seem to be an unnecessary waste of time
it has been suggested by the mod here that this may be a problem inherent with .plist files, but several possibly contrary examples to this suggestion have been offered
i don't think that your errant speculation and OS rants are offering any further insight
in any case, having clearly described the "problem" and also having offered possible examples of current software which does not have this problem (suggesting that it may in fact be fixable), at this point it is up to the piriform developers to determine whether this is something that they feel is worth considering any further