SSD Full on very new machine

Hello

Anyone know why the C: SSD 120gb drive on my Dell inspiron 3000 is full and I can find no large files that would fill it. I moved one drive files to the 1tb D drive that had 41GB size but that only reduced the SSD total by 3.5GB and it quickly filled up again in one day

can CCcleaner deal with this - is there anything I can do to increase space in the SSD drive

Difficult to say really. I would disconnect from the internet to see if that stabilises things. A CC Analyze will tell you what temp files can be deleted, and if these temp files are huge then before you delete then look at which component holds the huge files, Then post back here.

We are assuming that TRIM is enabled in both the Op Sys and the device? An easy way to check is to run Recuva normal scan on the SSD. If you can see lots of pics and data etc on the deleted files then TRIM is off. If the vast majority of the deleted files are blank/zeroes, then TRIM is on.

Use Treesize or Windirstat to see what is eating up your disk space

https://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free

https://windirstat.net

1 hour ago, Augeas said:
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		Difficult to say really. I would disconnect from the internet to see if that stabilises things. A CC Analyze will tell you what temp files can be deleted, and if these temp files are huge then before you delete then look at which component holds the huge files, Then post back here.
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		We are assuming that TRIM is enabled in both the Op Sys and the device? An easy way to check is to run Recuva normal scan on the SSD. If you can see lots of pics and data etc on the deleted files then TRIM is off. If the vast majority of the deleted files are blank/zeroes, then TRIM is on.
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Thanks Augeas - What's TRIM is it a windows app or part of CC Cleaner? I did use CC analyze to look at and delete temp files but they only amounted to a few hundred mb

TRIM is a process which is enabled by default in both the Op Sys and the SSD itself. It doesn't actually affect the disk space parameters, as that is (probably, possibly?) deduced from the cluster bitmap, and will be the same whether TRIM is enabled or not. Something must be using your space so try Hazlenut's suggestions.

I assume you are right clicking the drive in Explorer and selecting Properties to get the space usage figures?

46 minutes ago, hazelnut said:
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		Use Treesize or Windirstat to see what is eating up your disk space
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		<a href="https://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free" rel="external nofollow">https://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free</a>
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		<a href="https://windirstat.net" rel="external nofollow">https://windirstat.net</a>
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HazleNut - Thanks - I'll give that a go

2 hours ago, Augeas said:
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		TRIM is a process which is enabled by default in both the Op Sys and the SSD itself. It doesn't actually affect the disk space parameters, as that is (probably, possibly?) deduced from the cluster bitmap, and will be the same whether TRIM is enabled or not. Something must be using your space so try Hazlenut's suggestions.
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		I assume you are right clicking the drive in Explorer and selecting Properties to get the space usage figures?
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yes thanks Augeas I am right clicking explorer, selecting properties etc

Please do try one of the softwares I sugguested to see what is eating your space.

Is One drive putting files back on C? Some people do have issues wwith the sync

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/onedrive-for-business/onedrive-taking-up-space-on-c-drive/m-p/333024

Ok Hazelnut, I had a look at the C drive (SSD) using Treesize, obviously Windows OS occuopies 23gb - but the main cuprit that you cant see thru explorer is the System Volume info and then theres the Programme data. Strangely, after running Treebite to view the drive content the available space is now 16gb?? Previously the Storage Sense (system restore) was set to 99% so I reduced it to 25% perhaps that made a difference

anyway you can see the snip of the C drive contents and if it stays at 16gb free then I'll be happy

Cheers

SSD contents.PNG

13 minutes ago, hazelnut said:
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		Please do try one of the softwares I sugguested to see what is eating your space.
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		Is One drive putting files back on C? Some people do have issues wwith the sync
	</p>

	<p>
		<a href="https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/onedrive-for-business/onedrive-taking-up-space-on-c-drive/m-p/333024" rel="external nofollow">https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/onedrive-for-business/onedrive-taking-up-space-on-c-drive/m-p/333024</a>
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I think that might be happening but I dont know how to varify that - I'll look on the link you supplied - thanks

6 hours ago, Augeas said:
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		Difficult to say really. I would disconnect from the internet to see if that stabilises things. A CC Analyze will tell you what temp files can be deleted, and if these temp files are huge then before you delete then look at which component holds the huge files, Then post back here.
	</p>

	<p>
		We are assuming that TRIM is enabled in both the Op Sys and the device? An easy way to check is to run Recuva normal scan on the SSD. If you can see lots of pics and data etc on the deleted files then TRIM is off. If the vast majority of the deleted files are blank/zeroes, then TRIM is on.
	</p>
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Hi Augeas - yes I had a C SSD scan with recuvva and its plain that after moving One Drive to D HDD all the old One drive file are still duplicated in the SSD drive - there are thousands of files from a few kb thru to 50mb and up to 1.4gb - I dont know how to get rid of those because they dont show up in file explorer

If Recuva shows a list of deleted files that's OK, these are the entries in the Master File Table flagged as deleted. They can't be removed, but will be reused by Windows as and when new files are allocated. The important thing is can you see the deleted data (which will be mostly pics)? If so then TRIM isn't enabled. With an SSD you should not be able to see the data, just zeroes. But as I said this won't affect the free/used space.

Regarding your large files, do you have System Restore switched on? (CC will tell you if you have or not.) The default for Win 10 is off, so that may remove the 15 gb of Sys Vol Info (I don't have such a file). Presumably Mr Gates doesn't think Sys Restore is required any more, and I don't miss it. You might want to consider this, you don't have a lot of free space. I also have a 120 gb SSD C volume by the way, and use 37 gb.

Using the MS-Explorer, select the drive, right-click properties

Select tab: Tools


Select: Error checking

and

Run Directory Report as administrator

It will show you where all your space is going

You could also try Explorer, right click drive, select Disk Cleanup, Cleanup System Files. Windows Update Cleanup will be first on the list, and if you check that and run Cleanup you should save several gbs.

On 06/02/2021 at 11:53, Deekay57 said:
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		 if it stays at <strong>16gb fre</strong>e then I'll be happy
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Plain and simple 16GB of free available space just isn't enough!

7 hours ago, Augeas said:
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		<strong>Windows Update Cleanup</strong> will be first on the list, and if you check that and run Cleanup you should save several gbs.
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That alone will free many GBs if it's never been cleared out - it's very annoying that it can't be completely disabled from filling up. The built in Windows Disk Cleanup will have to be ran after every Windows updates patch Tuesday to regain space from there.

A 120GB-128GB SSD doesn't really cut it anymore, definitely not with Windows 10, it's too small and doesn't give anywhere near enough space. At least a 240GB-256GB SSD boot drive should be the minimum sized used nowadays. I suppose in a few years the minimum recommendation will bloat into being at least 480GB-512GB.

Thanks Andavari, I’ll try that on Monday when back at work - although I think I might have already done it last week - I know what you mean 128gb ssd is small but it also has 1tb Hard drive

9 hours ago, Augeas said:
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		You could also try Explorer, right click drive, select Disk Cleanup, Cleanup System Files. Windows Update Cleanup will be first on the list, and if you check that and run Cleanup you should save several gbs.
	</p>
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Thanks Augeas, Andavari advised the same

23 hours ago, binaryman said:
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		Using the MS-Explorer, select the drive, right-click properties


		Select tab: Tools


		Select: Error checking
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		Run Directory Report as administrator


		It will show you where all your space is going
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Will do that - some great help here ?

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/threads/onedrive-how-it-gobbled-up-my-hard-drive.35708/

There are many posts online about One Drive eating space.

3 hours ago, hazelnut said:
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		<a href="https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/threads/onedrive-how-it-gobbled-up-my-hard-drive.35708/" rel="external nofollow">https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/threads/onedrive-how-it-gobbled-up-my-hard-drive.35708/</a>
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		There are many posts online about One Drive eating space.
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So as I’ve put One Drive on D HDD do you think that windows still writes to the SSD first before transferring to D drive and leaves like shadow files (my term) that fill the SSD anyway?