Jkdefrag

How does running a defragger every day wear out the drive? .... Is this really hurting the drive?

My guess is purely physical disk head movements where the drive out - during a defrag, a disk head probably does about (don't quote me) at least a day or so's equivalent of head movement (if not more).

Just my theory.

Well obviously the head would have to move from the beginning of the drive to the end to defragment the entire drive, but I just didn't realize that was so hard on it.

Well obviously the head would have to move from the beginning of the drive to the end to defragment the entire drive, but I just didn't realize that was so hard on it.

Again, it's not as if you are defragging your entire drive every night. By running JKDefrag every night you are just defragging the files that have become fragmented since the last time it was ran. A regular once a month defrag can take hours which means there is a lot of reading and writing going on by the heads. But this is not occurring every night. There is no need to worry.

Alright, cool. As long as the drive is not being worn out prematurely by doing this, thats all I care about. :)

Alright, cool. As long as the drive is not being worn out prematurely by doing this, thats all I care about. :)

It could be:

The spindle motor, also sometimes called the spindle shaft, is responsible for turning the hard disk platters, allowing the hard drive to operate. The spindle motor is sort of a "work horse" of the hard disk. It's not flashy, but it must provide stable, reliable and consistent turning power for thousands of hours of often continuous use, to allow the hard disk to function properly. In fact, many drive failures are actually failures with the spindle motor, not the data storage systems.

Taken from here.

so having the hd defragged everytime the screensaver comes up seems like unneeded work on the hard drive.
but wear it out.
but its also not doing any good.
but it just seems like overkill and potentially problem causing.
Of course we each have our own opinions. :D

But...

  • A defrag app. only defrag if there are something fragmented. It doesn't defrag what it is defragmented! To have or not to have a real-time defrag it is a dissimilar affair. And the Hard Disk don't stay tired... It is hard...

But...

A Diskeeper' opinion HERE.

First off the diskeeper people well.... just want you to buy diskeeper. :P

I didn't even read the link, I don't really care what they use to market their program. :)

I understand what your saying about its not defragging whats not fragmented but your still not going to get any real speed boost defragging every file on your pc that becomes fragmented every day. Sure if you want to go ahead, but personally I think its pretty pointless.

I'm not an expert on this topic, and never claimed to be, but I have some posts you might like to read.

There are only a few people on the internet that I trust pretty much any computer information from. One of these people is djlizard. Here are some good posts about this topic:

http://forum.CCleaner.com/index.php?showto...4&hl=defrag

http://forum.CCleaner.com/index.php?showto...7&hl=defrag

One of those threads brought up a good point. NOT defragging can make the drive search in multiple places for the various fragments of a file. Where as a fully defragmented drive has to search less. I guess there's two sides to this issue.

There are three versions of the defragger with JKDefrag; the gui version, the command line version and the screensaver version. The command line version can easily be run by using bat files. Both the command lines version and the screensaver version allow for the use of switches, for instance:

JkDefragCmd.exe [-a N] [-s N ] [-d N] [-l "filename"] [items]

When I want to do a full optimization via the command lines version, I use these switches:

-a 4 -d 1

But for the screensaver version I do not use the full optimization switch because it will wear out the drive faster. For that I use:

-a 3 -d 1

Hope that helps clear thing up a bit.

Have you tried the new GUI?

http://www.emro.nl/freeware/jkdefraggui.rar

It lets you select all the various modes without having to use the command line switches. :D

...your still not going to get any real speed boost defragging every file on your pc that becomes fragmented every day. Sure if you want to go ahead, but personally I think its pretty pointless.

Agreed. Even if there is a small performance increase it's probably nothing you will notice.

However in the long term, after using PerfectDisk (with SMARTPlacement), I no longer had fps drops in counter-strike, my fps test result in cs source increased and my scores at pcpitstop increased. No other defragmenter did this for me.

sorry for the newb Q,but is this jkdefrag better than the one in windows?any pros and cons using this over windows defragger?

JkDefrag is vastly better than the standard Windows one.

The Windows one will just rearrange files so they are in the best order possible with minimum effort.

JkDefrag actually optimizes the files as well as just rearranging them.