it may be just me, but this thread really is going nowhere...
I think these threads speak for themselves.. not a single thread have I seen a single developer feedback on the UGLY of the new UI. Since that means version 4 will be absolete soon I am hoping that Bleachbit gets the White list in for Cookies and I will not look back. When developers won't even comment in the thread about the opinions from users they are basically saying we are nothing but CRAP in there eyes and they don't care about the users at all.
I have abandoned ship from several apps already where the companies have done this and looks like CCleaner will be another in my growing list of Apps I will no longer use or recommend to anyone. The original UI was a very professional and clean looking UI the new one is crap that reminds me of adware and malware interfaces.
I like how the numbers shown are only for these forums.. there is many sites out there with users that say the interface is UGLY.
http://www.ghacks.net/2014/11/15/first-look-at-ccleaner-5-0s-new-interface/
http://download.cnet.com/CCleaner/
http://www.davescomputertips.com/ccleaner-new-version-new-look/
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/virus-spyware/f/3522/t/19608183?pi31449=2
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29669309-BETA-CCleaner-v5.0-is-now-available-in-Beta- (they actually locked the thread)
http://malwaretips.com/threads/ccleaner-5-00-5050.38038/
There is more users than what is just on these forums.
Although I agree that the Devs are missing a golden opportunity to 'connect' with their users, this Forum has always been a one-way street.
From User to Dev, not the other way around.
I have no logic behind why this is so, but Devs very rarely post on the Forum except to announce new releases or to seek further descriptions of bugs.
This is a Community Forum where all members (including Moderators) volunteer their advice to try and help others, usually on Piriform products, but not restricted to just those.
No member has any official affiliation with Piriform (that I know of).
So no member posting any comments; good, bad or otherwise, should expect a reply from... well... anybody really.
So no member posting any comments; good, bad or otherwise, should expect a reply from... well... anybody really.
Which really confirms the impression that Piriform has complete disregard for its customers.
"Which really confirms the impression that Piriform has complete disregard for its customers."
CCleaner free is fully functional except in regard to the monitoring stuff.
I really don't understand the heat level generated by the new GUI. Obviously some folks don't like it, but why the hyperbole?
Just use an older version.
If you're a paying customer, try an older version with your license key. (Out on a limb here, never tried that myself.)
Edit: no offense meant to any individual, group, just sayin' . . .
I really don't understand the heat level generated by the new GUI. Obviously some folks don't like it, but why the hyperbole?
Because its not just bad. Its terrible.
Its seems like someone is trying to sabatage Piriform. Microsoft had to listen to the same sort of thing when Windows 8 came out. It was deserved. I think too many of the younger designers may not separate what is meant to be practical from what is to be a video game, or an app for a cell phone. I recently bought a very expensive fanless computer. Only under one condition. No Windows 8! Windows 7 only. Why? Ask Microsoft. They know why. Why? Because of the feedback they received from customers.
OK, some folks don't like the new GUI.
A few cite functional issues, but most just don't like the GUI.
But the level of agitation, though, ???.
- one poster equates the new GUI with the general repression of personal preference in society.
- one poster "went unhinged" when avast changed their GUI.
- one poster speaks for the masses and uses the first person plural pronoun almost exclusively.
- one poster fantasizes about slapping interface designers.
- one poster has decided to buy a MAC.
- one poster asserts that "It's burns my eyes to look at it."
- one poster asserts that you get eye cancer by looking on this.
Just plain silly.
OK, some folks don't like the new GUI.
A few cite functional issues, but most just don't like the GUI.
But the level of agitation, though, ???.
Just plain silly.
The level of agitation is because the new GUI warrants it. It's not hyperbole. The 5.00 GUI seriously surpassed even the new low levels that the likes of Foxit Reader, FileHippo, MBAM 2.0x, the various latest versions of MS Office Suite and various other software had gone down to with their new flat throwback, ultra economized looks.
It might not be unanimous that everyone hates the new 5.00 GUI, but it is also by no means just a micro small, renegade group of disgruntled users who hate it ... as evidenced by the many comments to that point.
As to the why the need for all the negative "me too" comments after the point was initially brought up? If only 5 or so people had spoken up regarding not liking the new 5.00 GUI, it would be way easier for Piriform to chalk it off to a very small, insignificant speed bump that came with the territory of releasing any new software ... and not something that might need to be fixed. It would have been very easy to go, "Oh well, 5 people didn't like the new GUI. That's to be expected." The more people that spoke up, the better chance there was of Piriform taking serious the idea that they possibly missed the target.
Windows 8 now comes with a downgrade license
Did you just discover this? There's nothing new or even Windows 8 specific about it. Users have had Windows downgrade rights for a long time now.
- Close button not flushly in corner
Agree with most of your keen UI observations, especially the one above which bugs the heck out of me. They've tried their best to copy the Windows 8 frame border but not only does it look completely out of place on Windows 7, the worst part is it disobeys Fitts' Law. In Windows (all versions since perhaps 95) the native window frame has a small blank space to the right (and in older versions also the top) of the close button, BUT if the window is maximized one can simply throw the mouse pointer to the top right corner and click there and it will activate the button. Clearly the copycat UI was made by developers who haven't really studied how the original functions. Now an action that should require next to no effort at all (simple closing of the app window) makes me pause every single time and ultimately wastes precious time. (Please don't bother to tell me how there are lots of other ways to close the window. Those have nothing to do with the UI complaint above.)
I'm actually not opposed to CCleaner looking more like a native app on Windows 8, but it should not only follow the same principles on Windows 7 too, it should also function properly with no UI inconsistencies that show carelessness on the part of the developers.
wouldn't it be handy for members to express their concerns with the new GUI to have one of those 'voting' threads, like we have for "What AV do you use?"
offer maybe a few questions, so the Devs get a feel for their concerns?
Do you like the new v5 UI? Yes or No
Have you gone back to v4? Yes or No
What do you want changed with the new GUI? and offer choices for; Colours, remove flat theme, follow Windows Personalisation, etc
wouldn't it be handy for members to express their concerns with the new GUI to have one of those 'voting' threads, like we have for "What AV do you use?"
offer maybe a few questions, so the Devs get a feel for their concerns?
Do you like the new v5 UI? Yes or No
Have you gone back to v4? Yes or No
What do you want changed with the new GUI? and offer choices for; Colours, remove flat theme, follow Windows Personalisation, etc
Would be handy, and probably much easier for the moderators to manage. But this way tells you so much more about the poster.
wouldn't it be handy for members to express their concerns with the new GUI to have one of those 'voting' threads, like we have for "What AV do you use?"
I'd recommend not doing it on these forums but instead on one of those poll sites to give anyone willing to take part the opportunity without having to register on the forums. That and it wouldn't be a thread on here that could possibly get closed, hidden, or deleted.
That and it wouldn't be a thread on here that could possibly get closed, hidden, or deleted.
I did not know that. So those What firewall... & What AV... etc ones are there for life?
I did not know that. So those What firewall... & What AV... etc ones are there for life?
Those polls you mention are on this forum.
yep
I think you should stay away from using terms like "the masses." CCleaner 5.0 has not been universally condemned; instead we're seeing a vocal minority dominate a discussion under the assumption that they represent the majority.
There have been over one billion downloads of CCleaner since version 1.16.082, which equates roughly to 7.1 million downloads per release for 140-odd releases. A quick tally of the number of people complaining about the UI on this forum and on the release announcement (for the beta and stable versions) on Facebook gives approximately 350 disgruntled users.
The number of people in "the masses" who are audibly upset about the redesign: 0.005%.
Hating this redesign is not a majority opinion. The minority just thinks it is. In psychology, that's called a false consensus. In philosophy; an epistemic closure. In reality; a handful of whinging people who believe their opinion is more important than 99.995% of others.
Just because the majority is silent, doesn't mean that they all like the new Metro UI. It just means that they didn't share their opinion here.
Personally, I wouldn't post here if I didn't read your post because I saw enough people have already suggested the same thing I would like to suggest:
Please, give us the option to deactivate the custom theme and use the theme of our OS!
I thought it would be just waste of time of those who read this topic, to post the same thing as all the others before me.
You wouldn't want 7 million users to post here 7 million posts, do you?
Yes the skin is cheesy looking and almost fuzzy looking not clean and vibrant at all and drive wiper takes FOREVER Like the pevious skin MUCH BETTER! This is awful looking!
"Which really confirms the impression that Piriform has complete disregard for its customers."
CCleaner free is fully functional except in regard to the monitoring stuff.
I really don't understand the heat level generated by the new GUI. Obviously some folks don't like it, but why the hyperbole?
Just use an older version.
If you're a paying customer, try an older version with your license key. (Out on a limb here, never tried that myself.)
Edit: no offense meant to any individual, group, just sayin' . . .
So you think 2959 posts gives you the right to be patronising and offensive ?
I am a paying customer and for your information the licence key did work when I went back to the old version.
My last word on this issue and I will not be renewing, Piriform won't go bust, but at least I won't feel as though someone is pissing all over me.
Don't think it'll make a difference but here's another vote against the new look. Just the fact that it's made so many long-time users (like me) actually sign up here to speak out against it shows how badly it's been received, and I know everyone else who uses it (thanks to me) dislikes it too but perhaps aren't motivated enough to register and post here. Ugh, between this and the new DeviantArt cactus/not equals logo fiasco, seems like all the things I like are slowly going down the drain in terms of design if not functionality.
So you think 2959 posts gives you the right to be patronising and offensive ?
I am a paying customer and for your information the licence key did work when I went back to the old version.
My last word on this issue and I will not be renewing, Piriform won't go bust, but at least I won't feel as though someone is pissing all over me.
I do not see anything in login123's post that was patronizing or offensive.
This thread is now decending into territory it was never meant to go into. After 4 pages it is plain to see that the new GUI has attracted many negative comments, and so on that note I will now close this thread.
Thanks everyone for your comments, good and bad, which I know Piriform are aware of.
Let's see what happens next.