autostart settings

[John_Grey]

Hello there,

as everybody, I suppose, I am unhappy with the time it takes my computer to be ready to go, after turning on the power.

In ccleaner there is a page in: extras: autostart, where all kinds of programs are listed.

All 20 are deactivated, except for my AV and the Zone Alarm (which is the worst as far as slowing down goes, I know)

But....

what exactly does it mean for all the items listed there, if they are deactivated?

What difference will it make, if I delete them all completely?

I saw that for examle that "realplayer" will reactivate itself every time after I have used it in the last session, but only then. No big problem, so I deactivate it again, but how does that puzzling autostart really function?

Thanks, John Grey

[hazelnut]

Real player you may able to disable better from starting by seeing if when you open the program there is a settings tab (may be under view>prefences) and untick anything that looks like 'enable start centre'

You can do this with a lot of software programs by looking under their setting for anything which mentions starting with windows (if you are sure it is not needs)

You are right not to disable your AV or firewall!!

Perhaps posting a screenshot of your startup programs would be useful

Don't delete anything., it could lead to problems unless you are sure of what you are doing.

[John_Grey]

The real player is no problem, as I use ccleaner everytime before I log out, and also: Zone Alarm asks me before giving connecting privileges to realplayer.

Seems, that the processes that are listed on that autostart list will turn themselves on, when needed?

Why is it so impossible to get simple, readable, understandable information about what these processes mean?

I tried Google, but that info is completely useless for me...

What would happen if I were to delete everything ecept the two from that page, that I actually want?

Would delete actually mean "delete" from autostart, or only like "delete" when I empty my waetbasket, which does not mean "delete" at all.....

If only AV and Zone are on autostart, why does the computer take ages to start up?????????

Thanks for your help, John Grey

[Aethec]

If you want to know what exactly is starting with Windows, you should download Autoruns from SysInternals. There are lots of things (nVidia useless things, useless Java Prefetcher, useless OpenOffice.org entries, ...) that CCleaner doesn't show.

Here are the entries I know something about :

PopUpStopperFreeEdition >> Nowadays every browser has a built-in pop-up blocker. You should uninstall that program and delete that entry.

Skype >> If you want Skype to be ready when you boot, enable. Else, you should disable it.

Adobe Reader Speed Launcher >> Unless you read lots of PDF, disable.

Malwarebytes'Anti-Malware & (reboot) entry >> If you want Malwarebytes to start with Windows, enable.

IMJPMIG8, PHIME2002A & PHIME2002ASync >> This has something to do with Asian languages. Unless you often read those, disable.

QuickTimeTask >> Do you have QuickTime installed ? This can either be malware or a useless QuickTime thing. Disable.

SunJavaUpdateSched >> Java update checker. Useless...Unless you use lots of Java programs.

SynTPEnh >> According to BleepingComputer, this is "Required on IBM Thinkpads with UnltraNav (pointstick and touchpad combo) if you don't want to loose the advanced pointstick features such as scroll"

TkBellExe >> See here

PS : If it is possible, disable the startup entries directly from their program, not from CCleaner.

(Please excuse me if I do English mistakes )

[metalj]

What would happen if I were to delete everything ecept the two from that page, that I actually want?

Would delete actually mean "delete" from autostart, or only like "delete" when I empty my waetbasket, which does not mean "delete" at all.....

If only AV and Zone are on autostart, why does the computer take ages to start up?????????

Don't delete anything, you'll never know if you might need it later.

CCleaner's registry cleaner deletes the invalid ones.

So just leave it to ccleaner.

Avast and Zone Alarm might take a lot of memory.

They have to startup all the shields separately (specially Avast), this can take some time.

What you can try to speed up is defragmenting.

You can use Defraggler or Smart Defrag (the one I use).

Tuneup Utilities has a lot of good ways to speed up, only that it's a shareware 30 day trial.

[Robbie]

Some users (including me) have had problems with Zone Alarm slowing startup of the computer. The problem started for me with a new version of Zone Alarm in May 2006, from computer switch on to the desktop being ready to use was always 5 minutes plus and sometimes up to 10 minutes after this new version of ZA appeared (running Windows XP, Service Pack 2 as it was then). Prior to that it had been 2 minutes maximum to load the desktop. The problem was caused by a component of Zone Alarm called vsmon.exe which was causing the CPU to lock at startup at close to 100% for some considerable time, hence the slow start. Many people didn't have this problem though. Vsmon.exe is an essential part of Zone Alarm and has to run for ZA to work properly.

Whilst that was May 2006, the last time I did a trial run of a new Zone Alarm version, about 18 months ago, it was still causing the same problem and there were posts from other people about the problem at the Zone Alarm forums. So whatever problem there was in May 2006 was still persisting for some people, including me, 18 months ago. I've used Comodo as my Firewall since May 2006, apart from trialing other firewalls (like the newer version of Zone Alarm 18 months ago) and have found it to be fine. My computer starts up with the desktop loaded within 2 minutes again.

I have had startup problems caused by certain antivirus programs too. I use Avira and have had no problems with this slowing startup since installing it but I did find Avast slowed down the startup and AVG since it was upgraded from 7.5 to 8 and 8.5 takes so long to startup I find it frustrating.

I think my problem is I like a quick startup with only the essentials running, and when they cause a slow down I have to look for something else to take their place...

[Robbie]

One way to check if it is Zone Alarm or the antivirus that is causing the slow startup is to first disconnect your computer from the internet and then startup the computer with one and then both of these disabled. If the computer starts in next to know time then you can decide whether you want to keep these programs or look for an alternative.

[John_Grey]

One way to check if it is Zone Alarm or the antivirus that is causing the slow startup is to first disconnect your computer from the internet and then startup the computer with one and then both of these disabled. If the computer starts in next to know time then you can decide whether you want to keep these programs or look for an alternative.

Yes, Robbie, that is exactly my experience with Zone Alarm. I was hoping to get around the uninstalling and finding a new firewall by asking my question. Long ago I alrady tried the disconnected start-up without Zone, and it was fast...

Here, I wanted to find out the meaning of all the programs listed on the autostart page of ccleaner. Why they are there in the first place, as they are all activated (except Avast and Zone). What would it mean EXACTLY if I delete them from that list, would the computer be faster then? When I check the list before logging out from the computer, of all the programs there the only one, that is EVER also activated, is RealPlayer, after I have used it in my session. Not a single one of the other programs has EVER been activated....

Why is it so impossible to find out what the programs listed there actually are?

As you have the practical experience, is comodo better? Does it make sense to change?

Also, I keep hearing about firewalls being already integrated in every router anyway and the computer itself does not actually need another one...

Example: What exactly does a program do, which is called:

C:\ windows\IME\imjp8_1\IMJPMIG.exe/Spoil/RemAdvDef/MIgration32

This is just an example from the list. I am not intersted in that particular program, I am interested in what it does, why it is obviously impossible to find out what it is, and would happen if I delete from the autostart list, where it is deactivated anyway permanently.....

Still puzzled, John Grey

[Augeas]

Example: What exactly does a program do, which is called:

C:\ windows\IME\imjp8_1\IMJPMIG.exe/Spoil/RemAdvDef/MIgration32

This is just an example from the list. I am not intersted in that particular program, I am interested in what it does, why it is obviously impossible to find out what it is, and would happen if I delete from the autostart list, where it is deactivated anyway permanently.....

Here I am, one o'clock in the morning, and typing IMJPMIG.exe/Spoil/RemAdvDef/MIgration32 into Google, which brings up 247,000 hits, of which the first (of many) tells you what it is. All this stuff is easily found with just a little effort. I'm off to bed.

[John_Grey]

Here I am, one o'clock in the morning, and typing IMJPMIG.exe/Spoil/RemAdvDef/MIgration32 into Google, which brings up 247,000 hits, of which the first (of many) tells you what it is. All this stuff is easily found with just a little effort. I'm off to bed.

This method usually brings up 247.000 hits, but does not give me answer. This one does, true.

But, why on earth is it in my autostart, and what will happen if I delete it, instead auf deactivate it?

And the next one I tried was Synaptics, yes it tells me approx. what it does. It does not tell why it is in the autostart and what would happen if I delete it. As I use a mouse will deactivating this, completetly deactivate my touchpad or will it only disable: which function under what circumstances...

[Robbie]

This method usually brings up 247.000 hits, but does not give me answer. This one does, true.

But, why on earth is it in my autostart, and what will happen if I delete it, instead auf deactivate it?

And the next one I tried was Synaptics, yes it tells me approx. what it does. It does not tell why it is in the autostart and what would happen if I delete it. As I use a mouse will deactivating this, completetly deactivate my touchpad or will it only disable: which function under what circumstances...

I would leave Synaptics to autostart. As you know, it is the touchpad and if you disable that your touchpad won't work until you enable it.

I suggest you concentrate on your firewall to speed up the start of your computer and leave the rest to autostart. Unless you know what you are doing you could cause problems.

[John_Grey]

I would leave Synaptics to autostart. As you know, it is the touchpad and if you disable that your touchpad won't work until you enable it.

I suggest you concentrate on your firewall to speed up the start of your computer and leave the rest to autostart. Unless you know what you are doing you could cause problems.

Yes, that is what I believe myself. I will probably delete the Zonealarm again, although I do like it, when it asks me for permission every time a program wants to acces the internet....

But then, I never had any real problems with the simple Windows firewall.

What is the story with these f?rewalls which are supposedto be already integrated in the router? Does anybody have any experience with those?

[hazelnut]

What is the story with these f?rewalls which are supposedto be already integrated in the router? Does anybody have any experience with those?

May be better start a new topic about this question in the hardware section of the forum.

[Aethec]

Here, I wanted to find out the meaning of all the programs listed on the autostart page of ccleaner. Why they are there in the first place, as they are all activated (except Avast and Zone). What would it mean EXACTLY if I delete them from that list, would the computer be faster then? When I check the list before logging out from the computer, of all the programs there the only one, that is EVER also activated, is RealPlayer, after I have used it in my session. Not a single one of the other programs has EVER been activated....

Why is it so impossible to find out what the programs listed there actually are?

As you have the practical experience, is comodo better? Does it make sense to change?

Also, I keep hearing about firewalls being already integrated in every router anyway and the computer itself does not actually need another one...

Example: What exactly does a program do, which is called:

C:\ windows\IME\imjp8_1\IMJPMIG.exe/Spoil/RemAdvDef/MIgration32

Look at post #4...

[ident]

I have 9 entrys that run at startup, Things like quicktime real etc always add there self, which you dont need.

i dont see why people download firewall software, xp built in FW is good.

TBH, i see zonealarm as a virus in it's self.

[John_Grey]

I have 9 entrys that run at startup, Things like quicktime real etc always add there self, which you dont need.

i dont see why people download firewall software, xp built in FW is good.

TBH, i see zonealarm as a virus in it's self.

Nine??????

I have two, and it seems that those two, the AV and the fireall, are those that should be there...

My point is that I do not believe that this is all there is.... When I install XP freshly it will run a lot faster. But "Windows Task manager" tells me nothing.... so I am using whatever I can find to help me find out more about this.... None of the suggested softwares tellme anything new. Some actually simply tell you that there is lots wrong with your computer and they simply want to sell their crap....

Thank you all for trying to help. At least I am learning a lot of new things about computers...

[Augeas]

Me too. Two, that is. As all your entries (but two) are disabled then you are not missing them running. I don't think it would make much difference if you deleted the entries, but it would make the list a lot cleaner. I don't know if you can get them back without reinstalling the relevant program, but if you're managing without them I wouldn't worry about that. Personally I prefer launching progs when needed, to having them autostarted, which is what the manufacturer wants you to do. Just about any of these programs can be started from the Start/Programs list.

I would take the advice and stop Zone Alarm and see how you get on. I use the XP firewall set to no exceptions, and the routers firewall set to whatever its default is.

How many processes do you have running? I have 23, but that is admittedly lean. You can Google the entries (except syshost) to find out where they came from. Go to your Services page (Ctl Panel etc) and set to manual those that you don't want. There will be some that obviously need stopping (from 3rd party applications) and other XP stuff that you don't need. As an example I have stopped and set to manual:

Ati Hotkey Poller

Automatic Updates – (Revert to Auto/Started when doing updates)

Computer Browser – (Should not be running, change to Manual)

Error reporting Services

Help and Support

Secondary Logon

Server– (Should not be running, change to Manual)

TCP/IP NetBios Helper

Web Client – (Do not attempt to stop, will stop at next boot)

Windows Audio

Windows Time

Windows Zero Configuration (required for wireless connection)

Workstation

There may well be others to stop, and stopping some of these may make no noticable difference.

Many of these things apply to how you want to run your pc, so there is no set of rules that will apply to everyone. Do a little experimenting, a step at a time and rebooting, and see how you get on. I don't network devices, play games, download music stuff, or message anyone, so your needs will be different.

[demonluo]

winpatrol (free) can delay startup but may not be able to delay AV & taskcatcher (paid) can auto end/block process if u blacklist it...

[ident]

Nine??????

I have two, and it seems that those two, the AV and the fireall, are those that should be there...

Thank you all for trying to help. At least I am learning a lot of new things about computers...

My 9 are all extra things i choose myself to run at startup, things like ccleaner, thunderbird, ERUNT(registry backup), Bridge & suitcase for PS

[John_Grey]

Me too. Two, that is. As all your entries (but two) are disabled then you are not missing them running. I don't think it would make much difference if you deleted the entries, but it would make the list a lot cleaner. I don't know if you can get them back without reinstalling the relevant program, but if you're managing without them I wouldn't worry about that. Personally I prefer launching progs when needed, to having them autostarted, which is what the manufacturer wants you to do. Just about any of these programs can be started from the Start/Programs list.

I would take the advice and stop Zone Alarm and see how you get on. I use the XP firewall set to no exceptions, and the routers firewall set to whatever its default is.

How many processes do you have running? I have 23, but that is admittedly lean. You can Google the entries (except syshost) to find out where they came from. Go to your Services page (Ctl Panel etc) and set to manual those that you don't want. There will be some that obviously need stopping (from 3rd party applications) and other XP stuff that you don't need. As an example I have stopped and set to manual:

Ati Hotkey Poller

Automatic Updates ? (Revert to Auto/Started when doing updates)

Computer Browser ? (Should not be running, change to Manual)

Error reporting Services

Help and Support

Secondary Logon

Server? (Should not be running, change to Manual)

TCP/IP NetBios Helper

Web Client ? (Do not attempt to stop, will stop at next boot)

Windows Audio

Windows Time

Windows Zero Configuration (required for wireless connection)

Workstation

There may well be others to stop, and stopping some of these may make no noticable difference.

Many of these things apply to how you want to run your pc, so there is no set of rules that will apply to everyone. Do a little experimenting, a step at a time and rebooting, and see how you get on. I don't network devices, play games, download music stuff, or message anyone, so your needs will be different.

That is part my problem.... when I go to "processes running" I get a huge list of indecipherable entries. All of them at 0%, but still the computer runs slow... so I believe that these Windows "control" institutions are simple not working properly, that there are things installed that will not turn upon these pages.....

All the others I have certainly switched to manual anyway, but that does not help. As the example Real Player shows, it will simply reinstall itself.... and i suppose a lot of stuff does that, without even showing up on the list....