dmitriy1980 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I'm very good around computers but lately I'm very stumbled with the new computers that are being sold. I have a couple of computers that are always at 100% usage for at least 10 minutes after boot up. I went through most of the things that I can think of, like checking antivirus, malware (not present), Search service, start up items, etc. The thing is there are other computes that are exactly the same don't have the same issue. They are all set up exactly the same. All have the latest drivers, Windows Updates, etc. I'm just stumbled why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators nukecad Posted January 10, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2021 If you are meaning what is shown in the Task Manager then it's just an oddity with Windows 10. Although it usually only lasts for seconds, not minutes, on my machines. For some reason whenever you open Task Manager with Win 10 it shows the CPU usage to be 100% at the top of the column. It's not really using 100%, it's just a 'holding' number while it works out what is being used. In previous Windows versions it used to show 0% at the top, but nobody worried that it wasn't doing anything. Why Microsoft have changed it is a mystery. You can repeat it every time by fully closing and then reopening Task Manager. If you look down the column each individual item is still showing 0% until Task Manager works out what they are all actually using. At which time it then populates the column and puts the correct total figure at the top. As I say for me it only lasts for seconds and I have to be quick to capture a screenshot like this: *** Out of Beer Error ->->-> Recovering Memory *** Worried about 'Tracking Files'? Worried about why some files come back after cleaning? See this link:https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/52668-tracking-files/?tab=comments#comment-300043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted January 10, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2021 I believe they're talking about disk usage (two columns over). I have this problem with some of my computers too. ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmitriy1980 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 That is correct. The issue is specific to Disk and not CPU and it does last about 10 minutes and not seconds. I'm aware of the oddity on the CPU tab that usually lasts about a second, but this is not what I'm inquiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted January 10, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2021 A few more ideas into the mix. https://www.cleverfiles.com/howto/100-disk-usage-windows-10.html Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators nukecad Posted January 10, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2021 I saw the title said hard drive but was covering the bases, by far the most queries I've seen about high usage at startup have been that CPU oddity. I've never really had a problem myself with high disk usage at startup, I do see it now and again but just ignore it. I did notice that it got higher when booting in the week before Patch Tuesday, and more so when there was a version/feature update due. That made me think that it is MS polling the computer to see how it was setup and what software was installed. (I now usually hibernate rather than shutting down, which seems to stop it happening). As the article that Hazelnut linked shows there could be many causes, but I think the first thing I'd do it check what Windows Telemetry settings the affected machines have. Another thing I'd look at is the read/write speed of the discs, if they are slow for some reason that could explain why it's taking so long. *** Out of Beer Error ->->-> Recovering Memory *** Worried about 'Tracking Files'? Worried about why some files come back after cleaning? See this link:https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/52668-tracking-files/?tab=comments#comment-300043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmitriy1980 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 Everything described in the link has already been attempted. No changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmitriy1980 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 I use "Hard Disk Sentinel Pro" to find out the health of the drives. they are all healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted January 11, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Some computer manufacturers have YouTube videos on how to fix it, such as Dell. It's rather common and there's many YouTube videos showing how to potentially fix it. YouTube Search:https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hard+disk+at+100+percent+usage Edit: One solution would cost a little money, and that is to install an SSD (at least 240GB to 256GB) as the main boot drive Windows is installed on. Then re-purpose and use that HDD as mass storage for games, music, video, etc. Even if the CPU isn't modern installing an SSD as the boot drive is the most significant upgrade where the results are immediately noticed. Edited January 11, 2021 by Andavari SSD comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmitriy1980 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 I do have some computers that have SSD and the same issue persists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmitriy1980 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 hours ago, Andavari said: Some computer manufacturers have YouTube videos on how to fix it, such as Dell. It's rather common and there's many YouTube videos showing how to potentially fix it. YouTube Search:https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hard+disk+at+100+percent+usage Edit: One solution would cost a little money, and that is to install an SSD (at least 240GB to 256GB) as the main boot drive Windows is installed on. Then re-purpose and use that HDD as mass storage for games, music, video, etc. Even if the CPU isn't modern installing an SSD as the boot drive is the most significant upgrade where the results are immediately noticed. Most if not all youtube videos resolve issues that are documented in the provided link above: https://www.cleverfiles.com/howto/100-disk-usage-windows-10.html. As I mentioned none of these resolve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livagr Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 11/01/2021 at 16:49, dmitriy1980 said: As I mentioned none of these resolve the problem. go to the Device Manager and delete all IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Then turn off the computer (I have a reboot of the computer does not give results, only a complete shutdown). The next time you turn on the computer, the system will install these controllers, and the hard disk will not boot up to 100%. I solved this problem this way, and as far as I understand, it happens on legacy computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmitriy1980 Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 Thank you. That was already tried and did not work. It happening to computers as latest as last year, which I would not consider legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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