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Update: Microsoft has stated that they have pushed out a fix and that it should be resolved for "most' users. If you already implemented the fix below, you can enable Bing search again (instructions below) and see if the issue is resolved for you. If it is not, you will need to use the fix again and wait for Microsoft to resolve the issue.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-search-is-broken-and-shows-blank-results-how-to-fix/

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I wonder if Microsoft is perhaps using any "push" updates, i.e.; they fix it without the user having to download anything, and it isn't shown in Automatic Updates. I know some antivirus vendors have used that in the past.

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I suspect that as it's related to cortana and bing then the issue is going to be a change at the cloud/server end rather than an update to user PCs.

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About what I was suspecting - a server side error/testing.

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All the more reason to not have a Microsoft account to use your damned computer. Wonder if one day it will be mandatory since they do have it in our faces allot with "login to your Microsoft account" when doing mundane s**t, in that case they could loose users in droves.

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8 hours ago, Andavari said:

All the more reason to not have a Microsoft account to use your damned computer. Wonder if one day it will be mandatory since they do have it in our faces allot with "login to your Microsoft account" when doing mundane s**t, in that case they could loose users in droves.

 

A mandatory MS account? -- wouldn't surprise me if it came to that.  Using the MS Media Creation Tool for a clean install of Windows 10, there is no obvious method of setting up a local account.  When asked for an email address or phone number, one needs to put in a fake phone number like 1234567890.  After selecting next, it won't be recognized and on the bottom left of that screen will be something along the lines of "offline account" (which would then be the setup for a local account).

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Yes the do make it very easy to sign up, and very difficult to see that you don't have to.

Although you used to be able to leave the box blank and the 'offline account" was there but very tiny.

Tbh Google have been getting away with it for years, every Android phone or tablet makes you sign into, or up for, a Google account and nobody complains about that. You can de-google android but who could be bothered?

I suspect that the majority of Win10 users aren't that bothered about having the MS account either, only us techies.

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All you need to do to avoid having to have a Microsoft account is to not have an internet connection when doing a clean install and selecting 'I don't have an internet connection'.

That then gives you a local account  :)

Only connect when installed.

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@nukecad -- I stopped using my MS account a long time ago.  At that time, I had several devices and syncing everything was easy.  However, even if I turned off syncing and used CCleaner on every Windows device, the device would be cleaned but my personal MS account page would still show every bit of activity.  If I wanted to clean that up, it would have to be done manually via the MS account page.  Google does similar things with chromebooks -- they push the Google account, syncing is turned on by default and everything shows up on the Google dashboard.  To clean that up, you have to stop syncing and reset the dashboard.

@hazelnut -- good advice.  I learned to do that (the hard way of course) but I know a lot of people who will only do a clean install while online so Windows can find updates immediately.  On the other hand, all you have to do is go to Windows Update after the clean install and check.

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23 minutes ago, crizal said:

 

@hazelnut    On the other hand, all you have to do is go to Windows Update after the clean install and check.

Exactly. It's six and two threes isn't it.

You have to get the updates anyway,  either during the install or after. I prefer after so I can have a local account   :)

 

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We get that on here all the time,

"CCleaner says it's cleaned XYZ but it hasn't".

Yes it has but you are synced so it just comes back again, CCleaner can only clean your machine and not MS's, or anyone elses, cloud/sync servers.

You wouldn't want anything to be able to do that - if the good guys could access those servers then the bad guys would be in there first.

As it is it will only be a matter of time before someone hacks into one and slurps a shedload of users synced data.

If you are bothered about privacy then don't sync anything.

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When I received my new M.2 SSD on Jan 2 along with an external M.2 enclosure that was defective I had to do a clean install of Win10 on the new SSD (then later restore from my disk image backup), the option was in there using the latest ISO for an offline account. Edit: And I was online!

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