Seasame Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I have my OS files in my SSD and currently the SSD is running slow. Therefore, I am considering a zero-fill but I am afraid it will mess up my OS and/or delete my OS and files. Please advice, thank you in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted August 4, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 4, 2017 What do you think a zero fill will do? Is there any significance from posting in the Defraggler section? Assuming the SSD is not ancient and has TRIM enabled, and the O/S likewise, and the SSD is not absolutely full, the best (and only) thing to do is to run a defraggler/defragger Optimise. This will ensure that any stray deleted pages are cleaned up, but it won't make the SSD run any faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted August 5, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 5, 2017 the first release Samsung EVO's had a firmware issue where they would slow down over time. what is your make/model? age of SSD? OS? Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasame Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Age of SSD: 3 months OS: Win10 SSD Model: I have no clue but its not samsung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted August 10, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 10, 2017 go into Control Panel, System, Device Manager and expand the Disk Drive entry. tell us what entries are underneath - this will identify the manufacturer. what about the points raised by @Augeas - what is the SSD's capacity and how much of that has been used? have you done an Optimise on it yet? also go into Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del), what are the %'s for CPU, Memory and Disk? Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasame Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 Manufacturer: Hynix CPU: 40% Mem: 70% Disk: 35% I have not run an Optimise but I have run a Quick Optimise. Space: 128GB Used: 95GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasame Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 bump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted August 17, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 17, 2017 sorry - I thought a consensus was reached that doing a zero fill to your SSD is 1) bad for the SSD and 2) will not improve performance. your lack of speed lies elsewhere. so to get off topic this once, and perhaps with a view of moving this to a more pertinent thread, what have you tried maintenance wise? do you think it's the SSD that is slow, and not the PC in general? Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasame Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 I think the PC itself is rather fast and all my apps on my HDD run just fine but SSD is a little worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted August 17, 2017 Moderators Share Posted August 17, 2017 so your OS is on the SSD (what is your OS?) and it starts in what, less than 20secs? but you have your software on the HDD do you? and what about that maintenance question??? Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted March 27, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 27, 2019 As TRIM came out with Win 7 in 2009, and SSDs before that, your audience might be limited. Zero filling a non-TRIM SSD might improve write performance but not for the reasons above (and also falsely claimed in the OCZ forums some years ago). An empty SSD block contains ones not zeroes, and no software on earth can erase NAND flash blocks. What zero filling does is to allocate a dummy page of zeroes to the LBAs instead of a physical page. The freed pages are subject to garbage collection, which erases them. Thus a pool of erased blocks is available for wrtes, and performance increases. Zero filling a TRIM SSD is a waste of time, effort and the life of the SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted March 28, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 28, 2019 Old thread, but what I got out of it was the SSD was too small and getting too filled up. That's why when looking at computers that come with a 120GB or 128GB SSD for the boot drive in my opinion in this day and age for an SSD compatible version of Windows that's way too small of a size and 256GB should be the smallest used boot drive. Couple that with having a secondary larger capacity 500 GB or 1TB or bigger drive either HDD, Hybrid HDD, or SSD rather that be internal or external USB storage that will store things such as downloads, games, music, movies, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted April 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 19, 2019 To make @Augeas and @Andavari not look crazy, the post they are replying to was removed when I banned the spammer ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted April 20, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 20, 2019 Since it's an old topic I'll close it then. Thanks for making the both of us look sane Nergal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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