TheAslan Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 You really should offer two different GUI versions to download, one for Windows 7 and one for Windows 8. Example: (Or) If you run CCleaner on Windows 7 it should ask if you would like to enable Windows 8 mode or keep the Windows 7 mode. (Mode means the new GUI). I think that bunch of CCleaner users might stop using CCleaner if there's no any chance to revert back to Windows 7 GUI, sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishan_rulz Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 That would just end up making the file larger than it already is. The interface is pretty clean and not very Metro. It's a good balance. Besides, people don't spend too much time with CCleaner to pay so much heed. For example, I just run it from the Context Menu of the Recycle Bin. CCleaner is useful. People would hardly stop using it for something such as this imo. Simplicity is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roycom Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Having just tried the beta, I have to say the new GUI looks pretty awful, especially when run on a Windows 7 computer. It looks completely out of place. I am at a bit of a loss as to why Piriform decided to change the UI, it's lasted this long because there's was nothing wrong with it in the first place? TheAsian is right, flat UI's appear to be quite unpopular generally and I can't quite understand why developers try to flatten their software interfaces when the look is so disliked. It belongs on Windows 8 maybe, but certainly not Windows 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithg Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I hate the new GUI. Lone Live CCleaner 4.x Keith FYI, It seemed to uninstall just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted November 14, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) I don't care for the look of the GUI but it's something I could get used to over time. What they've did seems cosmetic. My main complaint however is the color of the titlebar, it sticks out like a sore thumb! However I'm thankful on two parts: 1. It works on WinXP. 2. The functionality and where things are located in the GUI haven't changed. I noticed a fix they've did when selecting drives for Wipe Free Space since in version 4.x I always have to scroll the list, whereas now in 5.x Beta all of the available drives are visible without the need for a scrollbar. Edited November 14, 2014 by Andavari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanerCC Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 In evolving times when Microsoft themselves, have started to phase out the Metro (ModernUI) - it is incredibly bewildering to find Piriform changing their once stunning GUI to such a retarded and hideous looking one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleanemall Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Not one to resist or hate change but the new UI is extremely poor - just like the whole "flat" idea. Stick to the old one and enhance it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_B Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I noticed a fix they've did when selecting drives for Wipe Free Space since in version 4.x I always have to scroll the list, whereas now in 5.x Beta all of the available drives are visible without the need for a scrollbar. They REALLY REALLY should have fixed that years ago, when I complained that AFTER I had carefully scrolled and selected a partition for complete FULL WIPE (not just a wipe FREE space), and when I then activated the WIPE the list scrolled back to the beginning, so that I had to exercise faith in Piriform that correct drive remained selected. Unfortunately my faith in Piriform was misplaced and a different partition with important files was wiped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAslan Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Piriform should at least offer 2 different versions. That's all I'm asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkrats Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I have to say that the UI of 5.0 is really bad. It looks like a child sat down and tried to copy what he/she saw, by memory. It has been my experience that creators/companies that decide to "improve" the UI of their products rarely care about the opinions of their user community. Complaining about it will probably not move them to reconsider the changes. In their minds the "more modern" design will always look better, just because they designed it. Anyway, if the updated UI goes ahead, I'll likely stay with version 4 until I can find a replacement program. I am a diehard Windows XP user, and the new UI looks so out of place that it would be difficult to continue to use it. My plans are to build a nice Windows 7 machine, but it probably looks just as bad there. Obviously, designed with Windows 8 in mind, and with little consideration for everyone else. It's going to be a sad day indeed, when version 5 makes it's debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkrats Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 What bothers me the most (besides the flat buttons from Microsoft) is that the Title Bar no longer reflects the system colors. It's just plain white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAslan Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 I have to say that the UI of 5.0 is really bad. It looks like a child sat down and tried to copy what he/she saw, by memory. It has been my experience that creators/companies that decide to "improve" the UI of their products rarely care about the opinions of their user community. Complaining about it will probably not move them to reconsider the changes. In their minds the "more modern" design will always look better, just because they designed it. Anyway, if the updated UI goes ahead, I'll likely stay with version 4 until I can find a replacement program. I am a diehard Windows XP user, and the new UI looks so out of place that it would be difficult to continue to use it. My plans are to build a nice Windows 7 machine, but it probably looks just as bad there. Obviously, designed with Windows 8 in mind, and with little consideration for everyone else. It's going to be a sad day indeed, when version 5 makes it's debut. Very wise words my friend. Definitely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I like the UI, but I guess for me it feels unfinished. I like the direction it's taking, but it feels like I'm using a mockup (which makes sense since it's a beta) For example, the titlebar is much larger than the system default, and there's a lot of padding around the window controls. I'll wait for the next versions and final release to formulate a more complete thought on the UI. Also, does anyone else's UI not animate when minimizing? winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickr Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Please Pirform don't use the flat tile interface. I hate win 8 and its stupid flat tiles. I like a more modern 3D style, not going back in time with flat tiles. I think there is room for improvement of the GUI in version 5, but not by making it a flat tile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkrats Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 There's no use in asking Piriform not to use their flat interface. They really don't care what you think about it. In fact, I challenge any official representative of Piriform to make a post that says, that if enough users are unhappy with the Beta UI, they'll stay with the current one. Could it happen? Maybe, but not very likely. They don't look at CCLEANER as a co-operative effort between creators and users. I've seen so many companies go down the same path over the years, and there's no figuring why they do it. WinRAR has done it right. They still have the same UI, same buttons that they had many years ago. Users can design their own skins for the program and make it look any way they want. There's even a Windows 8 skin (although it's pretty bad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted November 20, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 20, 2014 There's no use in asking Piriform not to use their flat interface. They really don't care what you think about it. Nobody knows what they're going to do! I never remember them releasing a public beta of CCleaner before and I've been on here for 10 years, so maybe they wanted input from the community (without explicitly saying so) about the new UI design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted November 20, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 20, 2014 And I can't remember any company ever asking their client base what the product should look like. It's always been, "Well, here it is guys - enjoy". Only a handful even have the option of skinning. Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winapp2.ini Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Nobody knows what they're going to do! I never remember them releasing a public beta of CCleaner before and I've been on here for 10 years, so maybe they wanted input from the community (without explicitly saying so) about the new UI design. Can confirm; I've never seen a public release. Even Agomo was a private beta and you had to sign an NDA. winapp2.ini additions thread winapp2.ini github Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hav0c Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Every thing changes over time some for the better and others for the worse. More gray hear, different car models, new girl/boy friend(s) /wife/husband. Well you all get the picture .But when it comes to software, things are a bit different in my opinion. There are only two ways to go.1) Stick to what the developers provide and get use to it over time, which most users does or2) the developers can implement Customization. Case in point Winrar, FireFox and couple more. But not all developers go down this path, could be due to security reasons or some other things.CCleaner 5 I have to say does not look good in XP and even Win7 but I am going with number 1, why, easy as I do not look at the UI much, I look at the functions the software provides me to complete my tasks. Granted the UI does make the task a but easier . Every line of code written by man can be undone by man . "A loser in the real world is still a loser in the net!" - .hack//SIGN . Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators mta Posted November 20, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 20, 2014 But when it comes to software, things are a bit different in my opinion. There are only two ways to go. 1) Stick to what the developers provide and get use to it over time, which most users does or 2) the developers can implement Customization. Case in point Winrar, FireFox and couple more. But not all developers go down this path, could be due to security reasons or some other things. I would suggest an option 3) the user has the choice to find another piece of software to perform the same function. This is exactly what brought me to CCleaner 3 years ago when my previous crap cleaning software no longer suited me. Backup now & backup often.It's your digital life - protect it with a backup.Three things are certain; Birth, Death and loss of data. You control the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouch Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Sorry, but I too hate the "Flat" GUI. It's also VERY difficult to determine which button has the "focus". The outline rectangle gets totally lost on the new style buttons. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickr Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 There is definately room for improvement in the GUI, but not with flat tiles. I think flat tiles is just going backward and even Microsoft are slowly but surely moving away from that design. I'm still going to use Ccleaner no matter the interface, I mean to me the important thing is the functionality and how light the program is, so even if it had garbage GUI I'd still use it, but I feel like in order to improve they need to get away from the tile theme and go for more of a modern 3D look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted November 20, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'd personally prefer they leave the GUI as-is in v4, no flat design, no 3D design, etc., and instead just focus on removing bugs people report, and adding in more stuff clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hav0c Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I would suggest an option 3) the user has the choice to find another piece of software to perform the same function. This is exactly what brought me to CCleaner 3 years ago when my previous crap cleaning software no longer suited me. I would agree with you on option 3 but only if the the other piece of software provide more usable functions and not the exact same functions as currently used software. I'd personally prefer they leave the GUI as-is in v4, no flat design, no 3D design, etc., and instead just focus on removing bugs people report, and adding in more stuff clean. +1 Every line of code written by man can be undone by man . "A loser in the real world is still a loser in the net!" - .hack//SIGN . Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickr Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Probably have options at least, I'd like a new modern 3D look. I can imagine a black-purple 3D build, it can be so good. So if they add themes that you can download if you want, that would be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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