File Finder trouble

[Hav0c]

After Alan_B mentioned File Ownership and Access Control Levels, I did some deep digging in File Finder settings again.

 

I started to come to the conclusion it's not the Mach by that will causes the most problems but the Ignore, File Ownership and Access Control Levels settings that will for most users.

 

Thanks Alan_B.

 

Edit:

After performing a scan and found new duplicate files and removed them ran in some other problems that Explorer indicates the files are still on the pc even though the folders are empty.

But this is just a side note.

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[Alan_B]

This may be applicable to both the topic and to Havoc's anomaly of whether a file being both present and absent.

WARNING :-

DO NOT TRUST WHAT YOU SEE ON NTFS.

You may be looking at the effect of some sort of Reparse Point / Junction / Hard Link.

It is a "smoke and mirrors" type of illusion.

When you think you are deleting a redundant duplicate, you actually be deleting the only instance.

 

Hopefully any "Duplicate File Finder", whether by Piriform or some other supplier,

will be aware of Reparse Illusions and avoid deleting the real thing.

If the developer gets it wrong -

At least you get some more free space released

 

It may be worth using Defarggler to ANALYZE - NOT Optimze, drive K:\

and on the Search TAB check

"Include non-fragmented files" and

"Filename Contains"

and type the name of a file which appears to Windows Explorer to be on two paths.

You may find that only one instance exists.

 

Windows Explorer tells me that different sizes of CMD.EXE exist at

C:\Windows\System32 and

C:\Windows\SysWow64

Defraggler shows me that they exist at

C:\Windows\System32  and

C:\Windows\winsxs\wow64_microsoft-windowscommandprompt_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.17514_none_f387767e655cd5ab\

 

With FAT32 then "What You See You Got".

 

You can use CMD.EXE to run this command for a quick list of Junctions and Symlinks on partition C:\

dir /AL /S C:\

 

This is good for showing you what Reparse Points etc. exist,

and also allows you to create and delete them :-

http://www.rekenwonder.com/linkmagic.htm

 

Good alternative tools could be :-

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/ntfs_links_view.html

and JUNCTION from

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768

 

This has just spent 13 minutes analyzing my Windows 7 System C:\ partition.

ListLinks downloaded from

http://www.uwe-sieber.de/filetools_e.html

 

It produced a 4 MByte report detailing all the phantoms,

and this is the summary at the end :-
summary
* 66 reparse points:
  + 65 mount points:
    - 0 volume mount points
    - 65 directory junction points
  + 1 symbolic link
  + 0 of other types
* 18659 hard link groups

 

N.B.  That massive infestation of "Hard Link Groups" is situated in

C:\Windows\winsxs\

 

Regards

Alan

 

[Hav0c]

Thanks for the in-depth feedback

 

Hopefully any "Duplicate File Finder", whether by Piriform or some other supplier,

will be aware of Reparse Illusions and avoid deleting the real thing.

If the developer gets it wrong -

At least you get some more free space released

 

Let us just hope they get it right !!