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Andavari

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Just today I've went back to using MSE. I'm going to use it as an in-between antivirus until I find a better freeware one or paid one I like.

 

Long story short:

Starting Tuesday afternoon (after driving back home in near blizzard conditions) my computer would only successfully get to the Windows desktop after 2-3 attempts and it kept doing this. Today I figured out via loads of troubleshooting and since my Macrium Reflect backup couldn't remedy the problem that it was Panda Cloud Antivirus doing something to the boot process that would only allow the system to successfully load randomly. What a pain to figure out!

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Sometimes MSE causes CPU to go "through the roof". But there's a fix for that.

http://www.tweaking.com/articles/pages/fix_high_cpu_usage_of_microsoft_security_essentials,1.html

System setup: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/gcNzIPEjEb0B2khOOBVCHPc

 

A discussion always stimulates the braincells !!!

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Sorry about the site going down, freaking apache has been crashing for some reason. Site is back up now :-)

 

And now I need to deal with apache lol

 

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Happy to help. I use MS on all my systems and all my customers (I run a computer repair business)

 

I had noticed high spikes in CPU when doing anything and it happened more on XP than others but it happens to them all. So I started digging and found that trick, tested it and wow it worked lol.

 

So now I do that as my default every time I install it.

 

Of course me being somewhat OCD and a performance nut I couldnt ignore it lol

 

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I had noticed high spikes in CPU when doing anything and it happened more on XP than others but it happens to them all. So I started digging and found that trick, tested it and wow it worked lol.

 

I mentioned in this topic several days ago about my XP system randomly not wanting to fully start which has cured itself with the latest Microsoft Updates, so it wasn't Panda Cloud Antivirus after all. In the meantime while I had used MSE (and have since ditched it yet again) I again noticed like everytime I've used MSE the CPU spike you mentioned which goes along with overall sluggishness in XP.

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I checked Windows updates and no offer to update it and I am still on 4.4.304, I also checked their site and that is still the version they offer to download.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5201

 

Maybe the update is still rolling out across their servers and will be available later today or tomorrow?

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Windows defender on 8, which is just this, is still at the 4.4.304 version. But I just did a fresh install of Windows 7 on a customers machine, installed 4.4.304 from my installs folder and the new version does come up in the Windows updates. Yet MS still hasnt updated their main download page with it yet, odd.

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If you read the links I posted Mike, the nag screen affects XP users.

 I did Hazel and win 7 users were asking if they were effected . Hence my  reply here to save anyone else having doubts

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3 Fresh installs of Windows 7 today (3 different computers), all updates and the new version hasnt done anything bad to the systems.

 

I haven't tested it on XP yet as I haven't had a xp reinstall in a while.

 

They went from 4.4 to 4.5 I wonder if there was any improvements, to bad MS doesn't put out change logs for it.

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Odd they would add a nag screen to it when they already added a nag screen in xp itself from another update.

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Microsoft's Windows XP nag screen updates come from the following two downloads...........

 

KB2949787 - This one updates Security Essentials to version 4.5.216 which includes the nag screen. This update can not be uninstalled.  The simplest way to get rid of the nag is to uninstall Security Essentials and then download and re-install an older version of Security Essentials or simply change to another anti-virus program.  This update can not be hidden.

 

KB2934207 - This the Windows XP End of Support Notification nag.  It can be uninstalled or a quick fix is to just disable or delete the two related items in Windows Scheduled Tasks.  This download can be hidden.

 

Since both these updates are considered Important by Microsoft they are automatically downloaded unless you have turned off Automatic Updates and check for updates manually.

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So MS sees XP as such a threat to 8 that they put 2 nags screen in lol.

 

Even though it has been a while, I dont remember any other nag screens like this for any other old version of Windows, am I wrong on that?

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When people ask "Why fix what isn't broken?" I reply "To make it better."
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The Microsoft website Microsoft.com even had XP warning nags awhile ago, which prompted me to block the popup nags via adblocking software.

 

Edit:

After looking at the above link provided by Hazelnut, XP users should just ditch MSE in my opinion.

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