Ultimate Predator Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Right, I read that report about outpost Free (my previous firewall) never being tested on XP. That kinda shocked me, and it actually caused some problems, so I've got rid of it. I currently have just XP firewall running, which a lot of people I have seen use, does anyone recommend a decent FREE one, or is it not needed? I don't want Sygate as its been discontinued, nor any version of ZoneAlarm as an old version screwed up my PC once, nor of course Outpost Free. I just want a firewall (if I need one) thats completely safe to use, and very good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incy wincy Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I don't think you really need to get another firewall,I have XP firewall and it seems to be ok for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Is that what everyone else thinks too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted December 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2005 No I think you should get ZA if you want a decent free one. The windows firewall is not enough. A lot viruses have even managed to turn off the windows firewall. If you dont want to run a firewall than the next best thing I can suggest is that you buy a router with a hardware firwall built in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokoike Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 No I think you should get ZA if you want a decent free one. The windows firewall is not enough. A lot viruses have even managed to turn off the windows firewall. I agree with rridgely; ZoneAlarm isn't too shabby for a free firewall. The Windows firewall only monitors incoming traffic, but it does not pay attention to what your computer sends out; ZA does. Also, ZoneAlarm has management settings so that you can either let it decided what programs to run automatically, or you can have it leave the final decision to you every time. I've been using it for slightly over a year, and am very impressed with its abilities. I am using the Pro version, but for a while I used the free version, and had no problems. You can download it here. Save a tree, eat a beaver. Save a tree, wipe with an owl. Every time a bell rings, a thread gets hijacked! ding, ding! Give Andavari lots of money and maybe even consider getting K a DVD-RW drive. If it's not Scottish, IT'S CRAP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted December 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2005 I personally think ZoneAlarm is just a big buggy app. Sure it works up until is screws up. I'm personally using the Windows Firewall, however if I were to use a third-party firewall again and I might it would only be Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall. Note: In it's current version 4.2.3.912 it has only been rebranded (a new name) from Kerio Personal Firewall 4.2.2, and that's the only differences as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hmm, Kerio looks like it costs money, I'll give ZA another go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted December 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hmm, Kerio looks like it costs money, I'll give ZA another go... 25516[/snapback] It is non-commercial freeware for personal usage. It will operate for 30 days in paid-mode then after that it will go into free-mode. In free-mode it disables some advanced features that are only available in paid-mode, however it will still have incoming and outgoing protection (just like ZA) but without all the bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokoike Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 In free-mode it disables some advanced features that are only available in paid-mode, however it will still have incoming and outgoing protection (just like ZA) but without all the bugs. 25518[/snapback] I have heard several people make comments about ZA being buggy, but frankly, I have yet to see it. ZA is just like any other program; you have to get the updates. Obviously, if you don't update it, it won't be able to prevent the newest attacks. I think over a year of usage is long enough to know that it is a good product. I have not used Kerio, but I have used the Windows Firewall, and like everything else written by MS, it leaves something to be desired. The biggest testament to ZA's abilities is the fact that I don't get viruses. I just don't. Ever. And I have gone on numerous websites that have malicious content, without any problems whatsoever. If Kerio performs better than that, I would be amazed. I don't see what else it could offer that would give me reason to switch. Save a tree, eat a beaver. Save a tree, wipe with an owl. Every time a bell rings, a thread gets hijacked! ding, ding! Give Andavari lots of money and maybe even consider getting K a DVD-RW drive. If it's not Scottish, IT'S CRAP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 I have heard several people make comments about ZA being buggy, but frankly, I have yet to see it. ZA is just like any other program; you have to get the updates. Obviously, if you don't update it, it won't be able to prevent the newest attacks. I think over a year of usage is long enough to know that it is a good product. I have not used Kerio, but I have used the Windows Firewall, and like everything else written by MS, it leaves something to be desired. The biggest testament to ZA's abilities is the fact that I don't get viruses. I just don't. Ever. And I have gone on numerous websites that have malicious content, without any problems whatsoever. If Kerio performs better than that, I would be amazed. I don't see what else it could offer that would give me reason to switch. I am using ZA now, and it works fine. I have heard many other people say that it is screwy, but its fine with me, have it in 15 day trial mode of Pro version, its brilliant, might buy it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted December 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2005 I have heard several people make comments about ZA being buggy, but frankly, I have yet to see it. 25526[/snapback] It matters just how your system configuration is as well. Since it works for you congratulations. I'm so sick of talking about ZoneAlarm, my new years resolution is to not even mention or post about it again. Some of the problems I've encountered: * Won't install, can't read temporary install file: "%temp%\glb##.tmp" Problem: It is then half installed, and can't be removed, even startup entries that delete files before Windows start's can't remove it. Solution: 1. Install in safe mode. 2. Reboot into safe mode and uninstall it. 3. Run System Restore in normal mode and restore the system to the time before it was installed. 4. Install again in safe mode. Note: I can't get any version higher than v5.5.094 to install, the installer will just crash with: can't read file: "%temp%\glb##.tmp", and it's very difficult (beyond difficult) to remove it when it's half installed. * Internet connection failure: Problem: Nothing can access the Internet, no programs can update, no websites will load. Solution: 1. Shutdown ZoneAlarm. 2. Run CCleaner with the pre-installed winapp2.ini entry "Internet Logs" to remove all of ZoneAlarm's crap in "C:\Windows\Internet Logs". 3. Restart Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 It matters just how your system configuration is as well. Since it works for you congratulations. I'm so sick of talking about ZoneAlarm, my new years resolution is to not even mention or post about it again. Some of the problems I've encountered: * Won't install, can't read temporary install file: "%temp%\glb##.tmp" Problem: It is then half installed, and can't be removed, even startup entries that delete files before Windows start's can't remove it. Solution: 1. Install in safe mode. 2. Reboot into safe mode and uninstall it. 3. Run System Restore in normal mode and restore the system to the time before it was installed. 4. Install again in safe mode. Note: I can't get any version higher than v5.5.094 to install, the installer will just crash with: can't read file: "%temp%\glb##.tmp", and it's very difficult (beyond difficult) to remove it when it's half installed. * Internet connection failure: Problem: Nothing can access the Internet, no programs can update, no websites will load. Solution: 1. Shutdown ZoneAlarm. 2. Run CCleaner with the pre-installed winapp2.ini entry "Internet Logs" to remove all of ZoneAlarm's crap in "C:\Windows\Internet Logs". 3. Restart Windows. Even though you weren't referring to me (were you?), I'm not here t argue. All I know is, it installed fine, and everything can access the internet perfectly. Sorry to hear it didn't work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted December 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2005 Zone Alarm is the firewall that I put on pcs that I clean up. Usually I can train it before I leave and then the person dosent even have to do anything. It will do its job and not cause any problems.(its user friendly unlike most of the others I have tried.) Just remember to turn off alerts and logs or it will annoy the hell out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted December 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2005 Even though you weren't referring to me (were you?), I'm not here t argue. All I know is, it installed fine, and everything can access the internet perfectly. Sorry to hear it didn't work for you. 25542[/snapback] Nope, I'm not arguing or anything. Just noted my experience with it. It works, well v5.5.094 does if I install it in safe mode, but it eventually for a lack of a better word "poops out" after a week or two weeks and starts acting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 I'll see how it goes....! Though I amusing the latest version, which is meant to be veyr buggy, but has been fine so far, at least this one has actually been tested on XP, unlike Outpost..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capman Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 The last time I had any problems with ZA was quite a few versions back, probably 2 or 3 years ago, since then it has worked fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Ive used zonealarm exclusively for the last few years, and never once had a problem. Never had a virus either, but had a hijacker once that drove me nuts. NEVER AGAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Outpost all the way. ZoneAlarm sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted December 31, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 31, 2005 Outpost all the way. ZoneAlarm sucks. 25597[/snapback] No outpost sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 i tried norton security which i bought, and had nothing but troubles with it. waste of money. my isp provider supplies zone alarm suite for free, but i havent taken them up on it. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted December 31, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 31, 2005 Yeah if its free get if for sure. I think the AV that comes in the ZA suite is just etrust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 if it comes with etrust its worth getting, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted December 31, 2005 Moderators Share Posted December 31, 2005 if it comes with etrust its worth getting, isn't it? 25628[/snapback] Yeah but the etrust suite comes with ZA as well. And I think the Etrust suite is cheaper.(last time I checked and it even comes with pestpatrol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 Oh. Anyways, I've got what I want; ZAP and Etrust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard382 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Get Outpost it is so much better then ZA. Outpost>ZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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