Ultimate Predator Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Right, my built in anti-vrirus/firewall bundle with my internet security has busted, and the helpdesk recommend I find something else, as the product isn't great for Windows XP. So, I plan to get Avast AntiVirus Home Edition, thats been brilliant to me in the past before I got this, so I'm pleased with that (unless someone can say that there is a better FREE antivirus out there). More importantly, firewalls. The guy who I phoned up just reckons that Windows Firewall is good enough, and I must admit, its been fine before I got this firewall, but I read that it doesn't block outgoing conections... So what FREE firewall should I get, that doesn't us up a lot of system resources, easy to use, and has updates? That is, considering that Windows Firewall is not good enough. Many Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Agnitum Outpost Pro 3. Easy on resources and is a Godly firewall. Better than the buggy ZoneAlarm Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted October 7, 2005 Author Share Posted October 7, 2005 I really want a free one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted October 7, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 7, 2005 Zone Alarm 5.5.094.000 not the newest version. Get it here: http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/info...aseHistory.html For free antivirus I like avast but I really like Etrust so much more. Here is a link to a one year free trial. http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8chavez Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Everyone on this site seems to be advising Etrust or AVG and I can't seem to figure out why. If you're going to go with one of them you might as well use a pre-2005 norton product. The detection rates on these products in general are very bad. See: http://www.av-comparatives.org If you are certain you need a free AV, I would choose AntiVir, which has vaslty improved recently. If you choose to use a parware AV, which I recommend, then talk to me about options later. There are really only two freeware apps that should be considered; AVAST home edition and AntiVir 6.3. As far as firewalls, I think outpost and kerio 2.15 are both very good firewalls. Outpost uses more resources but if more user friendly. Kerio just plain works, if configured correctly with the right ruleset. This is a good ruleset to start with: http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/6171...cementFinal.zip Keep in mind that kerio 2.15 will not past many leaktests; development has been discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acooldozen Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Some security info re Computer Associates (ETrust) http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/15025/info ..........and Make yourself a Great Day! Cheers, Lyle Keep your software up to date http://www.dozleng.com/updates/index.php? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted October 7, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 7, 2005 Well, Etrust isn't even on any of those comparisons. Antivir from what I understand dosent have true automatic updates(may have changed), and I did say I like avast. Have you even tried Etrust before? Because I have used all of those programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8chavez Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Well, Etrust isn't even on any of those comparisons. Antivir from what I understand dosent have true automatic updates(may have changed), and I did say I like avast. Have you even tried Etrust before? Because I have used all of those programs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That has changed; AntiVir now offers automatic incremental updates. See this threat at Wilders: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=91636 As far as Etrust in concerned, I have used it before and found it to be very easy to use to rather high on system resources, not able to clean everything and mediocrea at detection. Also, AVAST, as good as it may be for a freebe, is very high on system resources and can bring your system to a crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted October 7, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 7, 2005 As far as Etrust in concerned, I have used it before and found it to be very easy to use to rather high on system resources, not able to clean everything and mediocrea at detection. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have you tried the latest version? Because it uses less resources than Avast or AVG and I have never had infection that it wouldn't remove. Version 7.0.7.7 My experience with Avast has been lack luster. I was once cleaning a pc that was infested with trojans and all avast would do is detect them and then lock up. I also have had problems with it detecting a virus and not removing it. The times that I have used avg it had no such problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8chavez Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 The new version of Etrust is better, but I prefer CA corporate if I had to choose between the two. Remember that Etrust in not freeware; I believe the year license, offered by Microsoft, is no longer offered . If it were up to me I would advise using KAV 5/6 beta, NOD32 2.5, or VBA32. But none of them are freeware. Freeware, no matter what product, is not as good as payware products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted October 7, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 7, 2005 The new version of Etrust is better, but I prefer CA corporate if I had to choose between the two. Remember that Etrust in not freeware; I believe the year license, offered by Microsoft, is no longer offered . http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/ If it were up to me I would advise using KAV 5/6 beta, NOD32 2.5, or VBA32. But none of them are freeware. I like nod32 but not Kaspersky. Its become every bit as bloated and junky as the rest of those security suites. The standalone av is good but it still costs $40. Why use this when I can get etrust for $20. Freeware, no matter what product, is not as good as payware products <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not true. Sure you can say that a free version of a piece of software is not as good as the exact same piece of softwares pay version but I can build a suite of free aplications that is better than norton or any other suite. You just have to know what to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8chavez Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I like nod32 but not Kaspersky. Its become every bit as bloated and junky as the rest of those security suites. The standalone av is good but it still costs $40. Why use this when I can get etrust for $20. Well there are AVs you can get for less than $40 like NOD32 (with student discount), Dr Web ($23.00), or VBA32 ($23.40). If you have ever used any of these program, especially Dr Web 4.33 or VBA32 you'd know there are not bloatware, as is Norton, Mcafee home or F-secure. Not true. Sure you can say that a free version of a piece of software is not as good as the exact same piece of softwares pay version but I can build a suite of free aplications that is better than norton or any other suite. You just have to know what to get. That is true; there are decent free applications out there which is what I was trying to point out. I do not like norton, or any symantec product for that matter, so that example doesn't work for me. I don't like the idea of an all-in-one suite. I prefer stand-alone products. But I understand what you are saying. An example of a completely freeware setup is below (all are necessary): Antivir: Antivirus Ewido free: On-Demand trojan/malware scanner Kerio 2.15: Rul-based firewall) MASA/Ad-aware/spybot/Hijack This!/Spyware Blaster (use them all for complete protection): Spywware RegWatcher: Configurable Registry Protection (http://www.jacobsm.com/mjsoft.htm) CCleaner HostManager: Hosts File ProcessGuard: Limits application rights Any non-IRE based browser It is possible but it takes alot more work to be secure. The ost imortant aspect of the setup if the AV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted October 7, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 7, 2005 I agree with everything except RegWatcher: Configurable Registry Protection (http://www.jacobsm.com/mjsoft.htm) ProcessGuard: Limits application rights An outbound firewall and microsoft antispyware should be sufficient. Running too many of these programs will slow down your pc. The best defense is a router. This will limit just about everything that can get into your pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8chavez Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I agree with everything except RegWatcher: Configurable Registry Protection (http://www.jacobsm.com/mjsoft.htm) ProcessGuard: Limits application rights An outbound firewall and microsoft antispyware should be sufficient. Running too many of these programs will slow down your pc. The best defense is a router. This will limit just about everything that can get into your pc. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. But remember, routers are not free. This setup is all freeware. I believe in layered defenses because there is no single program that is 100% effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainBug Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Hi, take a look at Kerio Personal Firewall. It's stable, feature rich and it's free for pesonal use. Enjoy it brainbug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agumon Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 i thought some features will be disabled after a certain time...? --==aGumon==-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normandie Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Hi,take a look at Kerio Personal Firewall. It's stable, feature rich and it's free for pesonal use. Enjoy it brainbug Just went to their site and found this alert: http://www.kerio.com/kpf_home.html Saying that they are discontinuing the firewall as of the end of this year. Have a good day, Normandie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted October 8, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2005 Hmm so KPF is going bye bye. I have fond memories of the 2.x versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted October 8, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2005 I guess I'll get the installer now then. I'll probably never use it but its worth taking a look at though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 Well, ZoneAlarm is VERY bugy, I recommend no one uses it. AVG didn't like my pc, so I'm getting vast, firewall wise I still haven't found what I'm looking for, it has to match these criteria: FREE (No trials, completely FREE). Little Resources Updates Galore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators rridgely Posted October 8, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2005 What was buggy about zone alarm on your system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 ZoneAlarm rebooted my pc as soon as it tried to run, believe it or not. Currently am needing help. Avast causes all my internet pages not to be displayed (Page Not Displayed), and is there a current FREE (not a trial) AVG Anti-Virus? Only the one I tried was 2004 version and would not connect to the internet for updates, and I can't find a free one from the site, please post the official site up with download for FREE Anti-virus. If that doesn't work, please suggest another trusted completely FREE anti-virus. Fire-wall wise I'm relying on Microsoft Windows firewall untill I get some Antivirus set-up, so everyone please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capman Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 AVG Free link - http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5 Scroll to bottom of page. Direct link to download - http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup...ree_344a618.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 Downloading now, hope it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Predator Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 AVG Free won't connect to the internet for updates, help please? I know it isn't Windows Firewall blocking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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