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When you install Returnil, as long as you configure it to use "Memory Caching" and not "Hard Drive Caching", it does reduce wear and tear on the Hard Drive.

 

But bare in mind, that Returnil will be using the Page File (Virtual Memory) as well as RAM unless you turn off your Page File when using it. To that end, Returnil is not reliant on the Page File. All depends of course on how much memory you have to play with.

 

There's more information about this on the Returnil section at Wilders.

 

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Also bare in mind that if you have a second drive, a partition, or the use of a thumb drive, you do not need to install the "Virtual Partition".

 

It's only real purpose is for users with 1 drive. It gives them an area to download and save to while Returnil is active.

 

Watch the install process carefully so you don't miss the "Cache Method" choice or the "Virtual Partition" option. If you don't require the latter, you just skip it while installing.

 

The Returnil forum on Wilders is a great source of info and help, and they always put themselves out to do just that. One of the developers, Mike (Coldmoon) calls in here now and again, and I've seen him and other members move heaven and earth to help folk with any problem they encounter.

 

I've been using this program since it first came out, and I have never encountered a problem in that time. I use Memory Caching, have never disabled the Page File, and I don't have the Virtual Partition mounted.

 

Hope that helps.

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I've removed the link for the new version I posted as it won't install properly on my PC.

 

This could be something I've changed recently, but to be safe, stick with the version I intend to reinstall. I'll post immediately if I find the cause is on my PC, and not a Returnil problem.

 

http://download.cnet.com/Returnil-Virtual-...4-10704691.html

 

This has to be Sod's Law after posting that I've never encountered a problem, although I have a suspicion as to the cause, and I think it's my PC.

 

 

EDIT: Version 2008 installed and working perfectly again, and I'm 99% sure the problem was due to a recently user added reg entry.

 

I haven't tried to install the new version until I check this out at the Returnil/Wilders forum.

 

I should have watched the telly tonight. :(

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When you install Returnil, as long as you configure it to use "Memory Caching" and not "Hard Drive Caching", it does reduce wear and tear on the Hard Drive.

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Hope that helps.

 

Well, Who Knew... :lol: Runs in memory...gonna have to give it another look. Probably everybody knew but me. Should have been paying more attention. Thanks, DennisD.

 

I think ??? Powershadow uses available hard disk space, which gives Returnil a big edge. Although I don't hear the HD chatter much when using PS.

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Thanks, abu. Unfortunately, even after following the instructions in that link and then uninstalling/reinstalling Sandboxie, I STILL get the same error. I'm at a loss at this point. We'll see what the Sandboxie forum says.

 

 

Unfortunately, that's not uncommon. Windows 2000 is often listed as being "officially supported", but there is no mention of things like this that prevent the app from functioning on Win2k.

 

EDIT: The problem is resolved and Sandboxie is working great! If anyone else encounters the same problem, see here for info: http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=41747.

 

Already installed here and running well so far :)

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Seen your thread over at Wilders Returnil part of the forum about your BSOD Dennis.

 

While you were there you will have noticed that there is a lot of disquiet about the new 2010 version of Returnil, many people are having problems with it and have gone back to the previous version.

 

Quite a few people cannot see why Returnil now needs to have an av as part of it's install.

 

Perhaps they ought to have stuck to what they had, this user seems to think so anyway (he also had BSOD Dennis)

 

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=254851

 

 

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I agree hazel, and I did notice I wasn't alone.

 

I don't think it was to do with my PC, but I thought it wise to remove the link for the new version until I found out one way or the other.

 

I'm back with the 2008 version, and it's running as perfectly as it ever has, so I have no hesitation in recommending it unreservedly.

 

The new version I will be steering clear of. I for sure don't require the Virus Guard.

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how do i configure to memory caching instead of hard disk? i cant find anything like that. Everything else seem's to be fine but the anti-virus isnt working?

 

also the updating doesnt work it seem's neither

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how do i configure to memory caching instead of hard disk? i cant find anything like that. Everything else seem's to be fine but the anti-virus isnt working?

 

also the updating doesnt work it seem's neither

 

From my post above:

 

Watch the install process carefully so you don't miss the "Cache Method" choice or the "Virtual Partition" option. If you don't require the latter, you just skip it while installing.

 

Saying that, I don't recollect any of these options while installing the failed Version 2010, so if that's the version you've installed I can't answer that one.

 

If you've installed the 2008 version, you do clearly get the options during the install process. If you've missed them, the best course of action is to uninstall it and reinstall it again after rebooting.

 

There's also a small check box to uncheck at the "Skip the Virtual Partition" bit.

 

If you have any queries about any of this, ask, and I'll uninstall mine and take screenshots of the process.

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When you install Returnil, as long as you configure it to use "Memory Caching" and not "Hard Drive Caching", it does reduce wear and tear on the Hard Drive.

But bare in mind, that Returnil will be using the Page File (Virtual Memory) as well as RAM unless you turn off your Page File when using it. To that end, Returnil is not reliant on the Page File. All depends of course on how much memory you have to play with.

There's more information about this on the Returnil section at Wilders.

Also bare in mind that if you have a second drive, a partition, or the use of a thumb drive, you do not need to install the "Virtual Partition".

It's only real purpose is for users with 1 drive. It gives them an area to download and save to while Returnil is active.

Watch the install process carefully so you don't miss the "Cache Method" choice or the "Virtual Partition" option. If you don't require the latter, you just skip it while installing.

The Returnil forum on Wilders is a great source of info and help, and they always put themselves out to do just that. One of the developers, Mike (Coldmoon) calls in here now and again, and I've seen him and other members move heaven and earth to help folk with any problem they encounter.

I've been using this program since it first came out, and I have never encountered a problem in that time. I use Memory Caching, have never disabled the Page File, and I don't have the Virtual Partition mounted.

Hope that helps.

 

Thanks Dennis. This is a very helpful post. You may recall I'm a Sandboxie user, but have been very interested in Returnil as well to complement SBIE. I like the functional simplicity that RVS seems to offer. Your post answers some questions I had about the choice of RVS options during the installation process.

 

Like Hazelnut, I also saw your thread over at Wilders. I think I'll sit tight for now to see how things unfold with the RVS 2010 issues.

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According to the information I've just received, the new version is to receive a fix:

 

The registration issue should be resolved with the fix we are applying at the server level by tomorrow:

 

That taken from the reply I received at Wilders this afternoon.

 

Far be it from me to level any criticism at the new version, but I would suggest thinking about installing the tried and trusted Version 2.0.1.9002, which is the 2008 incarnation, or hang back a wee while before delving into the new one until it has been running for a while.

 

Returnil 2008:

 

The main difference I can see with the new version is the "Returnil Virus Guard". There will be other improvements of course.

 

The addition of malware detection in the virtual environment, the all new Returnil Virus Guard, works to ensure that your computing experience is free from known malicious content while working hand-in-hand with our virtual system technology to provide the most effective and seamless malicious content removal available.

 

How often have you been faced with the aftermath of an improper removal or false positive detection? By using Returnil’s native reboot-to-restore functionality, removal of malware becomes both trivial and completely safe, while ensuring that false positive detections do not result in unintended disaster! Whether you are working with files located on your computer or files located in the cloud, Returnil Virtual System will keep both your computer and data secure.

 

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Just an update.

 

Decided to try out 2010 again after the Server Level fix.

 

I didn't get a BSOD on reboot this time, I got one as soon as I pressed the "Restart" button. It was instantaneous, and as I found out pretty terminal.

 

In safe mode I discovered there wasn't an uninstall option which I could find, and even after manually removing every Returnil file from Program Files and a couple of locations in System32, and installing an ERUNT backup from the morning before this install, I could not get past this BSOD.

 

I tried a lot of things involving different rescue packages, but the only thing which saved me was my Macrium Backup Image, which I'd only just updated last week.

 

Whether this was Returnil on it's own, or a conflict of some sort matters not a jot to me. You couldn't now pay me to try this 2010 version again.

 

This may not be your experience, but it would be neglectful of me not to point out mine.

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That sounded like a level one BSOD Dennis :(

 

Glad to hear you were able to get back up and running.

 

Sounds like Returnil 2008 will be what most people stick with for quite some time.

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