The Anti Marijuana Resource

[Derick]

Marijuana - The Real Facts

 

Marijuana is a very dangerous drug that has been propagandized as "safe" by weak minded idiots. The reality is marijuana is an addictive drug that can cause brain damage, cancer, gum disease, heart disease, infertility, lung disease, obesity, pregnancy failure, viral infections and doubles the risk of car accidents. The United States has the highest level of marijuana use due to an increased ignorant acceptance of it as "safe" by popular culture through movies, music, television and video games.

 

Source - http://www.populartechnology.net/2008/12/a...a-resource.html

[1984]

Interesting, not sure I agree with it all, but it makes a few points. I think that anytime you inhale any substance into your lungs you are causing damage. Simply because they weren't meant to take smoke of any sort into them.

[tcoffeep]

I agree it makes a few points, but I've doubt it's been studied as intensely as tobacco has been over the last few years. There're still arguments to be had, mistakes to be found, and possible other problems marijuana causes. I still think marijuana is feared beyond the level it should.

[YoKenny]

The boogie man will get you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness

[DJpailo]

Their illegal for a reason. :/

[krit86lr]

Their illegal for a reason. :/

What reason might that be?

[1984]

Hiya Krit, haven't seen ya in awhile!

[tcoffeep]

The boogie man will get you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness

[krit86lr]

Here are my thoughts regardless if anyone cares. This is an interesting topic.

 

For starters, 1984, you are correct. Studies of marjiuana pale in comparison to studies done on tobacco use, and I think that is a very important thing to remember. I look at it this way...if one study only studies 10 people and another 100 the results look a lot different if negative effects are shown on 5 people in each. Point being, if the population size is not adequately the same then the results of each study (marijuana use vs. tobacco use) are not comparable. Another thing to remember is that the only thing that marijuana and tobacco have in common is that the route of administration is smoking it. The 2 are not even kind of in the same class of drugs. Yet, do you know which drug out of all of the drugs on the planet has the highest number of loyalty users? Tobacco - THE LEGAL DRUG That does in fact cause lung cancer and is responsible for a large number of deaths a year.

 

In regards to lung cancer it is very unlikely that a person will develop lung cancer from ONLY smoking pot. Reason being, is that people who smoke marijuana are not inhaling a lot. Whereas tobacco smokers typically smoke 20-40 cigarettes per day. A typical heavy marijuana smoker doesn't smoke more than 4 marijuana cigarettes per day.

 

As for the first link on PopularTechnology.net, it makes me laugh. They compared drug seeking behavior of animals between marijuana and cocaine. What they fail to mention is how many times the animals self-administered in each study. An animal will self-administer cocaine 3,000 times a day until they die while showing no interest in food, water, or self hygeine. In the marijuana studies, the animals never exceeded 200 times a day while still eating, drinking water, and attending to self-hygeine. I'm sorry, but that seems like a profound difference to me and apparently to the FDA as well being that cocaine is a schedule I drug.

 

Overall, the dangers of marijuana are very minimal, and when compared to tobacco and alcohol is the lesser of danger. Regardless of it's danger level it will always be illegal so proving it's harmlessness or harmfullness is only for conversation purposes.

 

The FDA has never approved a drug that is smoked, and it has never approved a drug that contains more than 2 chemicals. Marijuana has 4000 chemicals and is smoked. But it's interesting to talk about.

[krit86lr]

Hiya Krit, haven't seen ya in awhile!

Hey! I got your messege, it came to my cell phone and I haven't logged onto WLM to add you back yet. Don't think I'm blowin' you off.

 

How are you?

[1984]

I agree with most of what you posted. Never say never though with legalization. In Canada we are more liberal in some ways and I could see it being first decriminalized and possibly legalized. It is already legal in limited use for medicinal purposes.

 

I don't use drugs and really don't have use for them. I don't even drink alcohol anymore and don't smoke. I see people that have graduated to harsher drugs from marijuana and seen others that have never tried anything harsher. I think there are social (legal as well as personal) issues that can result from it's usage but not for everyone. It just can't be healthy though to inhale smoke, regardless of the amount or the substance, into one's lungs.

 

I didn't know that about FDA approved drugs, never thought of it before about smoked drugs.

 

And I am good and no worries, life is busy for me and I know yours is too! Hope you have a good xmas!

[krit86lr]

I could see it being first decriminalized and possibly legalized.

That is a very important distinction that most people don't think about, but I didn't want to bring it up since I have a hard time keeping that topic brief. Criminalizing something that isn't harmful to the society does harm the society in my opinion. I think that decriminalizing marijuana would be a great step for our society, but legalizing it doesn't seem necessary. Plus, if the government did legalize it they wouldn't be able to regulate it so it would seem pointless.

I see people that have graduated to harsher drugs from marijuana and seen others that have never tried anything harsher. I think there are social (legal as well as personal) issues that can result from it's usage but not for everyone. It just can't be healthy though to inhale smoke, regardless of the amount or the substance, into one's lungs.

I agree social aspects play a huge role with any drug...even eating habits! Great Britain and the US have the highest rates of alcohol related criminal offenses, but then there are countries like France that have very low rates. It's a good example of how drug related behavior and society go hand and hand. The only difference in the above mentioned countries are the societies...the alcohol is the same.

[krit86lr]

one more thing, inhaling smoke into one's lungs isn't the issue with marijuana...it's the loss of oxygen to the brain

[1984]

one more thing, inhaling smoke into one's lungs isn't the issue with marijuana...it's the loss of oxygen to the brain

 

Anything that cuts off oxygen to my brain can't be good. I need all the brain cells i can get!

[chmmrx]

It is important to note the original instances that created our current problem. A racist push for department finances and special interests were the original reasons for marijuana prohibition. Alcohol prohibition had ended. The head of what equaled the DEA 70 odd years ago, needed tax revenue.. This is the original mindset and process that criminalized marijuana...

 

 

Harry J. Anslinger - most direct founder of marijuana prohibition:

 

 

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

 

 

William Randolf Hearst - H.J.Anslinger's Yellow Journalism partner, San Francisco Examiner:

 

 

"Marihuana makes fiends of boys in thirty days - Hashish goads users to bloodlust."

"By the tons it is coming into this country - the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms.... Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters. Hasheesh makes a murderer who kills for the love of killing out of the mildest mannered man who ever laughed at the idea that any habit could ever get him...."

 

 

Other nationwide columns:

 

 

"Users of marijuana become STIMULATED as they inhale the drug and are LIKELY TO DO ANYTHING. Most crimes of violence in this section, especially in country districts are laid to users of that drug."

"Was it marijuana, the new Mexican drug, that nerved the murderous arm of Clara Phillips when she hammered out her victim's life in Los Angeles?... THREE-FOURTHS OF THE CRIMES of violence in this country today are committed by DOPE SLAVES - that is a matter of cold record."

 

 

Furthermore:

 

 

"Hearst and Anslinger were then supported by DuPont chemical company and various pharmaceutical companies in the effort to outlaw cannabis. DuPont had patented nylon, and wanted hemp removed as competition. The pharmaceutical companies could neither identify nor standardize cannabis dosages, and besides, with cannabis, folks could grow their own medicine and not have to purchase it from large companies. "

 

 

After completing a two year plan to brainwash society using these sensationalist reports fostered by racist ideology and funded by special intrest, all these guys needed was evidence.. They of course did find their evidence - A two year campaign of manipulated media-opinion coverage was presented as documented evidence to a government committee..

 

 

The committee passed the legislation on. And on the floor of the house, the entire discussion was:

 

 

Member from upstate New York: "Mr. Speaker, what is this bill about?"

Speaker Rayburn: "I don't know. It has something to do with a thing called marihuana. I think it's a narcotic of some kind."

"Mr. Speaker, does the American Medical Association support this bill?"

Member on the committee jumps up and says: "Their Doctor Wentworth came down here. They support this bill 100 percent."

 

 

And on the basis of that lie, on August 2, 1937, marijuana became illegal at the federal level.

 

 

At this point the enforcement bodies are using similar tactics to maintain negative opinion on marijuana... Current public remarks, ads, and press releases do not contain the same racist sentiment - that is true.. usually... unless indirect... Although... the use of marijuana among users of all races here in the USA are proportionate, but for some strange reason arrests for possession is considerably varied when viewed by race...

 

 

No, it is FEAR they still publicly use... Disjointed ads that depict someone neglecting a child or whatever horribly bad imagery they can muster to hold your moral fiber hostage.. Tools of fear, these things are not directly related with marijuana use. There are plenty of people that neglect children with no influence of marijuana. Those are the same people whether they excessively watch TV, play some mmorpg, drink alcohol, abuse steroids, coach a high school football team - what ever - eat pizza every weekend.. the correlation might as well be any of that... Fact is, you would not want intoxication and care of a child together... General opinion supporting this is twisted into acceptance that marijuana makes this happen... Irresponsibility is the fiend, and marijuana did not create the irresponsibility. Imagine the same message blaming beer for causing the child neglect... Excluding propaganda, a seemingly more plausible scenario anyhow, blame seems naturally assigned to the drinker and not the drink... The changing factor is the shroud of "Reefer Madness". Just as in the start.. same old "Earth will plunge into Hell" fear mongering arguments... Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

 

 

Of course, there are entities that benefit from marijuana prohibition and are also sworn to uphold it as part of their very job description.

 

 

To quote the DEA, the last time I was at their site:

 

 

"The short term effects of marijuana use include:

Memory loss, distorted perception, trouble with thinking and problem solving, loss of motor skills, decrease in muscle strength, increased heart rate, and anxiety."

 

 

Now lets look at short term effects with alcohol, only briefly though because the list just goes on and on:

 

 

The short term effects of alcohol use include but not nearly limited to:

Reduced Inhibitions,Loss of Muscle Control, Memory Loss and/or Blackouts, Trouble with Thinking and Problem Solving, Nausea, Vomiting ,Headaches, Hangovers, Stupor, Distorted Perception, Decrease in Heart Rate, decrease in Muscle Strength, Suicidal Tendencies, Anxiety, and Coma.

 

 

To put it mildly ..I personally do not think marijuana is addictive. Sources supporting otherwise say marijuana is addictive on a psychological level and not a physical level... So, you think you need it, but your body, including the brain, is not truly addicted.. Negative effects of detoxing for marijuana are as bad as anxious behavior/less patience.. Negative effects of detoxing for alcohol are as bad as death...

 

 

Rational individuals, who are agenda free, can not deny the dangers of alcohol.

 

 

With further investigation, the prohibition on marijuana is much worse for society than that of its legalization.

 

 

Suggest, if you will... Normal everyday citizen... They go to work, balance their check book, pay for things, raise children.. you know, live a normal life with one exception.. they ingest marijuana.. Barring any excessive usage/abuse, (which is clearly the same case as with many already legal substances), these people function fine... except respiratory issues when smoked... Do I need mention it is legal to "smoke"! Now lets look at when that same normal everyday citizen gets arrested for possession:

 

 

Prohibition can cause in short:

 

 

1) job loss

2) criminal charges

3) loss of children

4) denial of federal aid

5) financial downfall

6) life endangerment

7) loss of freedom

 

 

The cruel and unusual punishment list goes on... Point is, again, marijuana prohibition is worse for the individual/society than legalization... and not for a moment should we accept this "gateway drug" propaganda... Those whom do, think this plant is essentially the stepping stone to harder drugs.. This bothers me, the marijuana plant is really the first step of drug abuse, and punished as the worst class of drug? Seems to me, these already invalid arguments contradict themselves anyway... This is cruel and unusual punishment at its finest... You get caught with the first step, and you get punished as if you were on the last step.. Yes, the broad arm of enforcement claims it is favorable in the struggle to discourage usage of marijuana... so it wont draw you in, suck you up into a crazy world of drug culture, and expose you to other harder illegal drugs.. Even pretending this is real.. People still end up paying the exaggerated punishment while campaign results are grim. Prohibition is the fiend, and marijuana did not create the prohibition. Eliminate the black market distribution and good people will no longer need to be exposed to the black market.. Eradication and prohibition efforts have not accomplished this, and I dare say will not.. You have to give it up to the enforcement agencies though .. They are charged with upholding this law and to do anything they can that will accomplish that. It is our job to change the laws.. then enforcement will be sworn to uphold the new ones.

 

 

In conclusion it appears to me there is big money at work - alcohol, textile, oil, enforcement agencies, drug cartels, etc, all benefit. The rest of us seem to be the pawns who pay... that is:

 

 

Unless we speak up and let our voice be heard for change in the current law, and against any individual that would have you believe "A law is a law - it does not matter if it is wrong or right!".

 

 

The latter happens to be against a founding principle of this great country. Stop wasting resources on this plant. Record eradication every year - as well as - record growth and availability. This is a money pit for something that is no worse than alcohol.

 

 

To those whom are against marijuana - free your mind of arguments attached to fear mongering please.

[CTskifreak]

HOLY NECROPOST BATMAN - AND HOLY WALL OF TEXT.

 

Uggg

 

AJ

[LIL NOOB]

Sooner or later Marijuana will be legal, The government will make good money by taxing it.

It would be consumed and sold under the same law alcohol is.

[hazelnut]

This topic is way old and so will be closed to stop other posters such as chmmrx posting in such a manner (post 15)