Recognizing applications

[cabaratz]

CCleaner seems to be doing a great job with my computer, and i recommend it to others. Thank you for creating, distributing and futher developing this program.

 

One suggestion is that CCleaner could personalize the list of applications by recognizing what is and isn't installed on the computer (as it seems to know a true list from the uninstall function). As of right now, there seems to be a default list of programs that is a bit confusing. Maybe a complete list of all programs could be listed in a default view of what CCleaner can potentially help with, but out of all the programs on the default view only those programs installed on the computer will actually stand out in a way that it can be manipulated, like checking the box or unchecking it. This would also enable users to know that if they switched/upgraded from, for example, Office 2003 to Office 2007, then CCleaner will still be able to manage that change.

 

Thanks again for your efforts, and willingness to hear suggestions.

Best wishes,

cabaratz

[Keithuk]

Welcome to Piriform cabaratz.

 

Maybe a complete list of all programs could be listed in a default view of what CCleaner can potentially help with, but out of all the programs on the default view only those programs installed on the computer will actually stand out in a way that it can be manipulated,

CCleaner lists the exact same application to uninstall as does Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs. It gets the same information from the registry. You can rename them is you want too. Why would you want to manipulate these even more, you either want to program or you don't.

[cabaratz]

Welcome to Piriform cabaratz.

 

 

CCleaner lists the exact same application to uninstall as does Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs. It gets the same information from the registry. You can rename them is you want too. Why would you want to manipulate these even more, you either want to program or you don't.

 

 

 

I think i wasn't clear in my first post... the focus of my suggestion is in the "Cleaner" section of the program, not the "Tools" section, where the uninstall functions exist. When the program opens, the initial view is where you can toggle between "Windows" and "Applications." The "Applications" section appears to have more programs listed (and check-boxed) than the computer is actually running. For example, it says both Office 2003 and Office 2007 even though you only have one of those applications installed. It's a little confusing. One suggestion is to have a true list of what your computer is actually running and being maintained by CCleaner in the list. Then, a second suggestion is to have a list of other programs that CCleaner could maintain, but are not installed in your computer. So for example, if i have Office 2003 already installed, then that box will be checked. And Office 2007, which i don't have, will not even be checkable. The user, however, will notice that CCleaner has the potential to maintain that program if I did decide to upgrade to Office 2007.

(Furthermore, CCleaner could be developed to maintain many other softwares, leaving a noticeable trail in the not checkable list. As soon as someone has the program installed (or if they had already had it installed), then it would be checkable and maintained by the program. At some point, there needs to be a decision of what's the goal of the cleaning and which programs are necessary to clean to fulfill that goal.)

I hope that's clearer, sorry for any confusion!

[Keithuk]

Ok I'm with you now cabaratz. The Application tab lists more programs that you have installed. Well this list is taken from the registry so at some point you must have had these programs installed.

 

As I've said in other posts I've yet to see a program uninstaller actually remove the files it installed as well as the registry info, its never done. As for your Office 2003 installed and 2007 not installed. This again is down to the registry. I have Office 2000 but it shows up as Office 97. At work were we use Office 2003 it shows up as Office 2003 and Office XP.

 

I wouldn't worry about it just untick the applications you know aren't installed.

[cabaratz]

Ok I'm with you now cabaratz. The Application tab lists more programs that you have installed. Well this list is taken from the registry so at some point you must have had these programs installed.

 

As I've said in other posts I've yet to see a program uninstaller actually remove the files it installed as well as the registry info, its never done. As for your Office 2003 installed and 2007 not installed. This again is down to the registry. I have Office 2000 but it shows up as Office 97. At work were we use Office 2003 it shows up as Office 2003 and Office XP.

 

I wouldn't worry about it just untick the applications you know aren't installed.

 

 

Got it. Thank you!

[davey]

Got it. Thank you!

Hello guys,

Depending on what OS and how long that you have been using CCleaner,this is the scoop.

CCleaner is only looking for specific "popular" software and Windows related files.

You can get a copy of it all here.As of v 2.08.

http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=104990

Don't know when "htome" will post the new copy for v 2.09.

This really helps it all come together.Read the whole thread.

Best wishes,

davey

 

P.S. You can add to what is listed there by adding a winapp2.ini file which cleans a lot more applications.Plus you can add your own

enties even VBS scripts. Copy the winapp2.ini file that everybody else uses and add or remove as you like.Zip file at bottom.

http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=1110 Add A Program To Winapp2.ini, Add additional programs to CCleaner

You also have the Include and Exclude entries, All these make CCleaner very flexible.

Edited July 1, 2008 by davey

[RoninV]

As I read it, the Application tab will list those apps "you have installed on your Windows PC." Is this list based on Add/Remove, the Registry, or both? Based on this thread alone, one would have to say the list is based on both. If that is the case, would cleaning the Registry of an apps' remnants, an app removed via Add/Remove, give the user of a "correct" listing of apps on the Application tab? How is this Application tab updated? Does it occur each time CCleaner is launched, or would CCleaner have to be uninstalled/reinstalled to get an updated Application tab?

[Nergal]

As I read it, the Application tab will list those apps "you have installed on your Windows PC." Is this list based on Add/Remove, the Registry, or both? Based on this thread alone, one would have to say the list is based on both. If that is the case, would cleaning the Registry of an apps' remnants, an app removed via Add/Remove, give the user of a "correct" listing of apps on the Application tab? How is this Application tab updated? Does it occur each time CCleaner is launched, or would CCleaner have to be uninstalled/reinstalled to get an updated Application tab?

depending on the program ccleaner looks for either a reg entry or a specific file/folder

 

EXample: the Bold part is what ccleaner is looking for in this case

 

[safari - Internet Cache]

ID=2009

LangSecRef=3028

LangRef=3161

Default=True

DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\Safari\Safari.exe

FileKey1=%localappdata%\Apple Computer\Safari|Cache.db

[RoninV]

I come back to this thread only because, I was waiting to see if future updates would "solve" this issue. If a program is removed (via Add/Remove), would not CCleaner remove any remaining remnants from the registry, using its Registry Integrity tool?