ElBoricua433 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 sometimes I encounter these while I am defragging is there anyway I can get through them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBoricua433 Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 Thank You for you guys viewing but not helping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted March 5, 2008 Moderators Share Posted March 5, 2008 It isn't obligatory to answer. Perhaps we don't know the answer - I know I don't as I don't use Defraggler. Maybe some kind person will help you. Rgds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted March 6, 2008 Moderators Share Posted March 6, 2008 Perhaps giving a bit more info perhaps may help, such which operating system, what exactly happens, where about it happens, and any error messages. Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thm Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 There can be many reasons why "some files cannot be defragmented", here are a few thoughts on the matter; I hope that you find them of help... In any one attempt at defragging a drive in a reasonable period of time, the algorithms are likely to be fairly simple and move as little data as possible. At the end of this, there may be no contiguous free spaces large enough to accommodate some of the larger fragmented files, hence they could not be defragmented without moving other files out of the way first, and the algorithms probably wouldn't do that if those files had already been defragmented or moved, as it could be relatively easy to get into a endless circle of moving files around and getting nowhere and wasting time into the bargain. You may find that running a defrag a second or third time can resolve most of these, as Defraggler can get a "fresh look" at the files in their new locations. Doing things this way typically results in a good compromise between speed and completeness of defragging. In practice you are unlikely to be able to measure (let alone notice) any significant difference between a drive with a few fragmented files and one with none. [And, of course, as soon as you fire up your browser and start browsing the internet you will generate dozens or hundreds of fragmented files per hour (albeit, rather small ones) !] As far as I can tell, if you effect a defrag of files after an analysis [i.e. by selecting them and clicking the "Defrag" button": method A] the defragmentation is of the files only: no attempt is made to consolidate [defrag] the free space. This is very good for a quick regular defrag (say, once a day), but it is more likely (as indicated above) that some files won't be defragmented. This is unlikely to be of significance, at least in the short term. For a more comprehensive defrag (say once a week or month), you can defrag the files and consolidate the freespace by right-clicking on the drive name in the Defraggler window and selecting "Defrag Drive" [method B]. This will typically take much longer, as it will first defrag the files and then try to defrag [most of] the freespace by moving many files to the beginning of the drive. In so doing, this will make more contiguous space available for large files to be accomodated without fragmentation. So, if you have any fragmented files remaining after the first "comprehensive" defrag you will have a much better chance of getting such files defragmented on a second or third attempt, and if there are only a few such files, you will probably be able to defrag just these files quite quickly by using method A for second/subsequent defrags, but if this fails you can use method B again. Aside:- Now, there *are* defragging programs out there that can pretty well guarantee to defrag all files [if there is enough freespace] in "one go", but these are commercial and when running in this mode can take an inordinate amount of time to complete. Personally, I find that the better freeware defraggers [like Defraggler] are very fast and effective if used regularly. When I really do [rarely] want to virtually guarantee total defragmentation & optimisation on a drive, then I use the command line version of JkDefrag in a script (invoked several times) and set it going [with auto-shutdown afterwards] on my PC before going home. Piriform have indicated that they may include command line support in Defraggler, and if they do so, I may well switch to using that for this purpose . Another reason that some files cannot be defragmented could be due to limitations of either the program or the way in which it interworks with Windows. Windows imposes restrictions on defragging certain system files and components of the MFT, and files that are open. Indeed, some of these *cannot* be defragmented by any defrag programs whilst Windows proper is running, but can only be defragmented at boot time [although there is a further method for the Pagefile]. If you need to defrag files that are locked when Windows is running, then you could use JkDefrag. If you want to defrag your Pagefile and other system files, then you could use Pagedfrg (by Sysinternals). Alternatively, you could defrag your Pagefile on Windows XP IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH RAM (> 512MB) by the following... 1) Remove the Pagefile 2) Reboot the PC 3) Defrag the boot drive [or drive where you want the Pagefile] using Defraggler method B 4) Recreate a Pagefile on your chosen drive, using a custom size with the SAME min/max values. I have deliberately not been too explicit as to how to do this: if you are not confident that you would know what to do from the above instuctions then it is probably best that you don't try it ! Finally, please note that there is a bug in Defraggler up to and including beta 058 whereby if you run an analysis on a drive that has just been defragged using method A it may report that there are some fragmented files when in fact there are not. Sometimes a further "analysis" run will indeed correctly show that all [or most] files have indeed been defragged, but sometimes you would have to restart Defraggler in order to get the correct analysis. Happily, although this is a trivial bug, Piriform have tracked this down and fixed it, but the fixed version has not yet been released. I presume that this will be due to the wisdom of rolling this fix up with other bug fixes & new features and applying reasonably thorough testing of the whole before release. [i look forward to it ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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