Win Defender vs. MS essentials

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Sort of relevant, maybe not too useful:

I just got finished installing Avast! free version 8.0.1489 and Outpost version 7.1.1 on this win 7 64 bit machine. Norton ran out.

Outpost 7.1.1 is a security suite, but If you install the Avast! AV first, the Outpost antvirus doesn't install.

They are cooperating nicely.

Good about Outpost is that it has that auto-learn mode, and is pretty easy to configure.

Bad about this version is it pops up stuff pretty often, and says it is registered for only 66 more days. Thought it was a year.

Edit: The popups will probably lessen as time passes and Outpost learns what is OK.

Thanks, Willy2, for this very informative topic.

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Out of curiosity I re-installed MSSE and tried to stop that Service using that command.

It works on XP, if you're using something newer that could be the reason.

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The popups will probably lessen as time passes and Outpost learns what is OK.

While I understand those popups are necessary for those types of security software to "learn" a system they are very annoying. That's why I don't miss thinks like ZoneAlarm, etc.

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What do you use for a firewall setup, Andavari?

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Windows Firewall.

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Maybe I should create an standalone thread but MSE has been updated today to v4.3.215.0 via Windows Update.

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That looks like the pre-release version ?

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29942&WT.mc_id=rss_alldownloads_all

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I don't quite understand what you mean Hazel... :huh:

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It was listed on that ms page as a pre-release version.... and then they put it on MS updates !!

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Thanks Hazel. The download link for Spanish version is different than the one you posted. If you use it, you still get the previous version. I guess MS has not updated it yet.

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All installer files are the same, exept for the EULA.rtf and CompAppsContent.dll

http://i.imm.io/1cExT.png

The one on Microsoft Update is the same prerelease but they determined it was stable enough to be rtm

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MSE v2.3.216.0 is available for download

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Not using MSE at the moment but have been told new version allows you to decide how much cpu cycles you want to use for a scan.

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MSE v2.3.216.0 is available for download

Thank you, I'm downloading it just in case - although I'm currently using Panda Cloud Antivirus Free.

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Not using MSE at the moment but have been told new version allows you to decide how much cpu cycles you want to use for a scan.

I haven't checked it yet. I am going to investigate that...

EDIT:

For clarifying things up, there is no such an option for common usage. There is an option for limiting CPU usage during SCHEDULED SCANS only. And this option isn't new either.

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I tried out MSE v4.3.216.0 on my XP system and I can't believe they've made it scan even slower. 45 minutes for a "Quick Scan", and it was going over 7 hours for a Full Scan which prompted me to immediately uninstall it. I'm ditching it for good on this old computer, can't be bothered with the slowness.

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Too bad it runs so bad under XP. I really like MSE.

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@Hazelnut: I am curious. Win 7 has two folders, "C:\program files\Defender" (for Defender) and "C:\program files\Security client" (for MS Essentials). Does Win 8 have both folders as well ?

@hazelnut: A second question; What's the name of that "Windows Defender" Service in Win 8 ? "WinDefend", "Msmpsvc" or are both Services available/present in Win 8 ? Or does it have a different name ?

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I think it's called Windows Defender service and I think there is just one.

However I cannot be too sure as I am not at home this week and only have a Win 7 laptop with me.

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I can confirm on my Win8 PC that it is called Windows Defender Service and that there is only the one service.

(msmpeng.exe is the actual program name which you may have been referring to @Willy2)