Question in title, anyone know the last version before it became Spyware?
Why do you think it's spyware, that's a drastic overstatement of the changes imho
Because it is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware
Quote<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> <b><span lang="en" xml:lang="en">Spyware</span></b> is software that aims to gather information about a person or organization without their knowledge, that may send such information to another entity without the consumer's consent, or that asserts control over a device without the consumer's knowledge.<sup><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware#cite_note-FTC-REPORT-2005-1" rel="external nofollow">[1]</a></sup></p> <p> "Spyware" is mostly classified into four types: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adware" title="Adware" rel="external nofollow">adware</a>, system monitors, tracking <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie" title="HTTP cookie" rel="external nofollow">cookies</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_horse_(computing)" title="Trojan horse (computing)" rel="external nofollow">trojans</a>;<sup><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware#cite_note-Shin-2" rel="external nofollow">[2]</a></sup> examples of other notorious types include <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management" title="Digital rights management" rel="external nofollow">digital rights management</a> capabilities that "phone home", <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keylogger" title="Keylogger" rel="external nofollow">keyloggers</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit" title="Rootkit" rel="external nofollow">rootkits</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_beacons" title="Web beacons" rel="external nofollow">web beacons</a>. </p> <p> Spyware is mostly used for the purposes of tracking and storing Internet users' movements on the Web and serving up pop-up ads to Internet users. Whenever spyware is used for malicious purposes, its presence is typically hidden from the user and can be difficult to detect. Some spyware, such as keyloggers, may be installed by the owner of a shared, corporate, or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_computer" title="Public computer" rel="external nofollow">public computer</a> intentionally in order to monitor users. </p> </div>
so by the definition provided in the first paragraph, it would be hard to not classify almost all software as spyware.
top of the list would be all Microsoft products, Windows included. <img alt=":P" data-emoticon="" height="20" src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/default_tongue.png" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/tongue@2x.png 2x" title=":P" width="20"></p>
CC has been 'phoning home' for years.
so a better question may be "why the sudden interest?" <img alt=":ph34r:" data-emoticon="" height="20" src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/default_ph34r.png" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/ph34r@2x.png 2x" title=":ph34r:" width="20"></p>
That's not really a good counter argument, because others do it, it's okay to do.
And no CCleaner hasn't been doing this for years, only the "check for update" does that, but now every time you run a scan/clean it phones home. Get a firewall.
yep, block it at the firewall level.
I think the expression "don't feed the troll" fits quite well here.
How am I a troll? Anyway I found out that the last good version is v5.40.6411 before the spyware, so if anyone is wondering, it's that one.
Not that I would expect any answers coming from people here who have 8,734 / 5,438 / and 515 posts, you are either payed by Piriform/Avast, or you're so emotionally invested with this software where you've developed Stockholm Syndrome where you treat any kind of negative comment towards your baby that you feel the need to downplay it, defend it, or call people trolls.
Just remember, this company see you as a number on a spreadsheet, and nothing more, no need to defend them like I insulted your family member.
just so you know, all members (Moderators included) on this forum volunteer their time freely.
apart from the Admin team, who rarely contribute in everyday posts, no members have a loyalty to, or are on the payroll of, Piriform.
the number of posts is simply an indication of how long we have been doing this for. nothing more than that should be read into it.
it is a friendly, community based forum that is mainly used to address problems with Piriform products but is also used (not so much these days) to discuss any topic someone cares to post about.
a quick search through other threads and you'll discover that even the Moderators often criticise Piriform and their products.
there is nothing wrong with having a good conspiracy theory - you just have to support it with verifiable, independent facts and sadly Wikipedia fails that test miserably.
starting a thread with a question "when did CCleaner become spyware?" was only ever going to go one of two ways... those who agree with you and gave you your answer or the way it has.
8 hours ago, Special said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> Not that I would expect any answers coming from people here who have 8,734 / 5,438 / and 515 posts, you are either payed by Piriform/Avast, or you're so emotionally invested with this software where you've developed <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome" rel="external nofollow">Stockholm Syndrome</a> </p> </div>
Nobody on the mod team is employed by Piriform/Avast, and who else is going to more likely answer tons of posts on a user forum that would be other volunteer users because the people who make the software surely don't have time since they've got to fix the software they've obviously made buggy as hell.
I'm confused here:
"Spyware is software that aims to gather information about a person or organization without their knowledge..."
The Terms of Use & Privacy Statement outline exactly what data is gathered & how it is to be used. And in the Settings we have control over what data is to be collected on a continual basis. So how is that considered to be Spyware? To me it appears that I'm downloading this software WITH full knowledge of what info is being collected, stored and used about me. At any time I can request the information that Piriform/Avast as stored AND formally request they delete all the personal data collected. To me it sounds like the exact opposite of what Spyware does.
I am NOT paid by Piriform/Avast I am NOT emotionally invested in any software.
On 5/31/2018 at 20:24, mta said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> <a contenteditable="false" data-ipshover="" data-ipshover-target="<___base_url___>/profile/62665-special/?do=hovercard" data-mentionid="62665" href="<___base_url___>/profile/62665-special/" rel="">@Special</a> just so you know, all members (Moderators included) on this forum volunteer their time freely. apart from the Admin team, who rarely contribute in everyday posts, no members have a loyalty to, or are on the payroll of, Piriform. </p> <p> the number of posts is simply an indication of how long we have been doing this for. nothing more than that should be read into it. it is a friendly, community based forum that is mainly used to address problems with Piriform products but is also used (not so much these days) to discuss any topic someone cares to post about. a quick search through other threads and you'll discover that even the Moderators often criticise Piriform and their products. </p> <p> there is nothing wrong with having a good conspiracy theory - you just have to support it with verifiable, independent facts and sadly Wikipedia fails that test miserably. </p> <p> starting a thread with a question "when did CCleaner become spyware?" was only ever going to go one of two ways... those who agree with you and gave you your answer or the way it has. </p> </div>
Always have the facts in hand before I publish to the world.
It's my end user rule.
"Show Me The Code" Identify the Hash.
Get to the "root'
It's all past my pay grade. So, I got this one huge weapon out here.
Trust until proven otherwise.
In the USA 2017.
The Equifax Breach.
If you research that you will also find it was also a Life Loc Breach.
I changed all my numbers cause I gave them all to Life Loc. Every single one of them.
All Equifax did was loose my social security number.
I phoned my Security IT groups at the bank.
I did that based on a Political Satirist, HBO TV Program, John Oliver Last Week Tonight.
He has never been sued, HBO the host has never been sued for the contents of the program
the reporting is based on substantive irrefutable facts which have never been challenged by either
Life Loc, or Equifax.
Now, that's something to have immediate concern about.
In closing, All I want to end with is this Yah ALL !
I am just not that important, Life is sudden.
Nagasaki August 6th, 1945
Peter
Sorry to necro this thread, but it came up when I was researching if CCleaner was still shady. Seems it still is:
8 hours ago, BigGuyWhoKills said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents ipsClearfix" data-gramm="false"> <p> Sorry to necro this thread, but it came up when I was researching if CCleaner was still shady. Seems it still is: </p> <p> <a href="https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/stop-using-ccleaner-windows/" rel="external nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/stop-using-ccleaner-windows/</a> </p> </div>
That's fine, you're just looking for answers.
Yes it's still buggy, you can view comments, etc., about it that are more current that this topic by looking in the CCleaner section of the forum located here:
https://forum.piriform.com/forum/4-ccleaner/
While allot of people have issues with different things in CCleaner from installation issues, crashing, etc., I've personally not encountered any issues using CCleaner Portable v5.63.7540 (most current version as of writing this) - although I consider myself very lucking compared to the issues it's giving other people who have taken the time to report bugs.