Windows 2000 is not supported by Microsoft any more.
The developers of Defraggler are not supporting it now (although you can still download a Defraggler version that does)
No amount of posting on your part Tonurics is going to change things, so just accept it.
Thanks for your reply.
I was actually hoping that one of the developers would give some insight on what changed in the GUI version of the program. The command line version works perfectly fine in Windows 2000; as such there is no need to download any version but the latest.
I do not know why you have addressed the closing of your message in such a condescending way. I have three posts; two of which are asking people to stay on topic and stop fighting.
Not condescending at all, just trying to keep things focused.
The other post you made was to tell a long-standing member to stop trolling, hardly the best thing to do
Anyway the devs read all threads so we may get some imput.
Not to kick a dead horse. All of my replies [excluding this one which is directed to you] were made specifically to keep this topic on focus.
Am I correct in the understanding that you just said: asking people to stay on topic and stop fighting is not the correct thing to do.
By pointing out that the user I asked to stop trolling is long-standing member on the forum, I assume that implies that you share some sort of history with him and as a Moderator grant him immunity when it comes to enforcing rules and forum etiquette (even to the point where it appears you are now defending his behavior). To allow abrasive users to run amok on the forums, and then reproach those very users who are following the rules and trying defuse flame bait / trolling situations, creates a hostile forum that nobody wants to participate on. It reflects badly on you, as not being an impartial Moderator and Piriform as not being in control of what is going on it's own forum.
While I may not be a long-standing member on the forum, I have been a long time advocate for Piriform. As a software consultant I have pointed countless businesses to CCleaner and Defraggler over the years. Many I'm sure have signed up for paid Business Support. But the lawlessness I see here on the forums makes me doubt whether Piriform is the mature solution I thought it was.
In all fairness I'll give you the last word and remain silent from here on out; unless one of the developers has something to say about the thread topic and wants to have a discussion.
I really have zero sympathy for belligerent users of obsolete Operating Systems that demand continued support from the latest and best.
They are still at liberty to use the old Piriform products that still support dinosaur O.S.
Alan
By pointing out that the user I asked to stop trolling is long-standing member on the forum, I assume that implies that you share some sort of history with him and as a Moderator grant him immunity when it comes to enforcing rules and forum etiquette (even to the point where it appears you are now defending his behavior). To allow abrasive users to run amok on the forums, and then reproach those very users who are following the rules and trying defuse flame bait / trolling situations, creates a hostile forum that nobody wants to participate on. It reflects badly on you, as not being an impartial Moderator and Piriform as not being in control of what is going on it's own forum.
I think you have said enough now to warrant receiving a warning. I will not 'allow abrasive users to run amok' so you are banned from posting for 5 days.
If you still consider this forum a hostile place for members after 5 days then you do not have to post.
The developers of Defraggler are not supporting it now (although you can still download a Defraggler version that does)
Is this fact or just a general assumption because the software no longer works on Windows 2000??
It's just I don't recall reading anywhere here on the forum or website that development for Windows 2000 has been dropped by Piriform.
Richard S.
The devs have not really said on forum Richard but given the fact that it doesn't seem to work anymore from the GUI, and support has finished from M/S for the operating system, it seems to be a general assumption.
This is one of the times I wouldn't mind being wrong mainly for the people who still use Win 2000.
Although Nergal did post this which makes it seem a done deal
http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=30281&view=findpost&p=182917
I can confirm that DF 2.0 no longer supports W2000. Apologies to the few still using this OS
I managed to re-download the last Version 1 of Defraggler today, by simply adjusing the dfsetup URL substituting "200" -> "121", for those who need it http://download.piriform.com/dfsetup121.exe works for me in FireFox
Rob, you actually didn't have to do that File Hippo (the official download point for Piriform Softwares) Has all of the old versions
I will not 'allow abrasive users to run amok'....
Good for you, Hazelnut. Everywhere I look, someone is running amok.
Can't we give those poor amoks a breather? 
Rob, you actually didn't have to do that File Hippo (the official download point for Piriform Softwares) Has all of the old versions
Oh thanks, though from http://www.piriform.com/defraggler/download it's hard to see that File Hippo is preferred, but the archive is nice.
Just to correct a few misconcsptions:
1. I don't know how many people still use Win2K, but we certainly do (along with XP, Vista, Win7, and until not long ago Win98SE). I came here today after discovering that Defraggler no longer supported it, and looked around the Piriform site for quite a while for a link to v1.21 before eventually landing here and finding one (you might consider listing old versions somewhere easier to find, as many sites do).
2. The reasons why people use older systems are many and varied. Some do so to run applications which no longer run well on newer systems. Others may not appreciate Microsoft's 'activation' mechanisms. And I suspect quite a few simply don't see any need to upgrade something that's still meeting their needs and/or might even have difficulty affording to.
3. Whether Win2K (even Win9x) is 'insecure' really depends upon the environment in which it's executing. It's certainly not insecure if not connected (directly or indirectly) to the Internet - even without the robust current anti-virus/anti-malware applications which still support it. It's actually just about as secure when connected to the Internet as XP, Vista, or Win7 if it has those applications in place and is sitting behind a hardware NAT router (our Win2K systems are still in heavy use in this configuration and it has literally been close to a decade since any malware was even detected let alone actually managed to run, and no, we aren't careful about where we surf though we are careful about what we explicitly download and run - the main potential threat for an OS that's no longer being updated).
So while there's no legitimate reason for people like me to DEMAND that Piriform continue to support this system, the reasons that some of its defenders have advanced for not doing so reflect more their own ignorance (and knee-jerk reaction to perceived criticism) than anything else. If there's no significant reason to drop support for older systems in the future, I hope you'll think twice about doing so arbitrarily.
Edit: Whoops - meant to ask whether the v1.21 portable version is also available somewhere (didn't see it at FileHippo).
Whoops - meant to ask whether the v1.21 portable version is also available somewhere (didn't see it at FileHippo).
What you can do is extract the version from file hippo (either run the installer or use 7zip and right click the setup exe and choose "open inside") and use the old portable.dat (or create a portable.dat see below)
If you run the in installer navigate to the folder un installed defraggler into
copy everything (except the uninstaller "unist.exe" ) to the portable folder of your choice
then (if you don't have a portable.dat) open windows notepad
and paste the following into it
#PORTABLE#
next save as
change text file (*.txt) to all files (*.*)
and name it Portable.dat
save this file in the portable folder
finally open defraggler go to options and Uncheck "Automatically check for updates to Defraggler"
Thanks - will do.
If there's no significant reason to drop support for older systems in the future, I hope you'll think twice about doing so arbitrarily.
What more reason does one need than to reduce development & testing time by dropping support of legacy Windows in future releases? The version 1 software still works as well as it did before, why not keep these old systems stable and stop upgrading the utititlies (and presumbably they've worked well enough for almost 10 years now or the OS would have been upgraded long ago).
I have commented on this subject before however I have more to say.
I am responsible for maintaining computers running different operating systems. I still have some Windows 2000 computers on my system. These remain on my system mostly because they are used to perform a specific task that does not require the use of a newer PC or operating system. I.E. one of these Windows 2000 computers is used for an intrusion detection device located outside our firewall. Windows 2000 actually works better than the newer MS operating systems for this specific function.
With that said there are options with Windows 2000. If you do some research there are other free defragmenting programs that still work with Windows 2000. However, I find it completely acceptable to continue to use the older version of Defraggler on my older Windows 2000 computers. It isn't as though the older versions were crap.
One last thing. Defraggler is a FREE program. Should we really be getting so upset that a newer version of a FREE program no longer supports an older operating system? Last time I checked, I was not out one penny when the new version of Defraggler was released.
I am thankful for this free program, both the new and old versions.
Keep up the good work
Thanks
There are still others programs to defrag a drive wich don't force you to change your OS to use the newest version.
Indeed there are and some even support back to Win95/Win98, i.e.; "WinAll". With so many free defrag tools available just search a freeware download site for a suitable replacement if you want one that's currently up-to-date for your Win2K OS.
Please provide a credible source. Three or four users complaining on support forums does not mean a "large number" of users are still using Win2k. I'd bet those are less than 1% of Piriform users.
In my experience for every reader or post one might see on a board such as this - there are likely 10s or 100s that are in the same boat but do not post.
This was a decision Piriform made.
Still considering that there are alternatives still supported then this thread can best be utilized by readers if over time those still requiring a Win2K version to comment on their experience with other systems and hopefully the 2nd best alternative to using Defraggler for a Win2K system can be arrived at.
My take.....