That does sound about right Nergal, but then how did they remove it later?
That is the big question that bothers me at the moment.
(I assume it may be a reg entry, but if so then how did they change it without a new install?).
And if they did remove it from free trial then why did it get removed from some Pro versions as well?
3 hours ago, nukecad said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> That does sound about right Nergal, but then how did they remove it later? </p> <p> That is the big question that bothers me at the moment. </p> <p> (I assume it may be a reg entry, but if so then how did they change it without a new install?). </p> <p> And if they did remove it from free trial then why did it get removed from some Pro versions as well? </p> </div>
You misunderstood me, I don't think it was removed, I think the code to previously hiding it is hinkey and may be still hiding it.
All in all it's a mess. This seems to be the norm for CCleaner lately.
There were no comments by staff yesterday on any of the many bugs, and as it's the weekend I doubt if there will be any comments until next week.
Could be a "tunable" a term used to explain how some online games can enable/disable something in the installed software without any need for an update. Just speculation though.
I had considered something like that.
Say showing it in the Free version with an upgrade offer for a limited number of days before removing it from view.
(I'm also aware that in my particular case I'm not using the 'Standard' installer, which could explain some different behaviour).
But that doesn't explain why some report Free versions are still showing it while it's been shown then removed from others, - or more importantly why it has suddenly dissappeared from some Pro versions.
(There has been another report of it dissappearing from 3 Pro installations earlier today).
Unless as Nergal says the code is all to c**k.
Of course the Piriform staff could tell us what was intended, even if they don't know for sure what went wrong. - If they could be bothered.
I'm with Hazelnut, CCleaner errors following (or during) an update are becoming 'normal' these days.
@nukecad -- For what it's worth, I still have the Software Updater on my Free version (standard installer), although there's nothing under either tab. Not bothering with another screenshot right now, it still looks like the one I posted yesterday.
Please remove this bloatware from free version. I always need to wait until CCleaner check for updates when I need use Tool tab.
Or just move it lower in Tools tab to fix this delay. I know CCleaner is now owned by Avast so here must be tons of bloat and popups.
What version of Windows do you have, if it's Windows 10 which version (1809 or another?) and have you installed this months Patch Tuesday update yet?
I've a suspicion that the PT update may have removed a registry entry that controls the display of the Software Updater in CC. (Thanks to TwistedMetal).
5 minutes ago, nukecad said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> <a contenteditable="false" data-ipshover="" data-ipshover-target="<___base_url___>/profile/80390-crizal/?do=hovercard" data-mentionid="80390" href="<___base_url___>/profile/80390-crizal/" rel="">@crizal</a> </p> <p> What version of Windows do you have, if it's Windows 10 which version (1809 or another?) and have you installed this months Patch Tuesday update yet? </p> <p> I've a suspicion that the PT update may have removed a registry entry that controls the display of the Software Updater in CC. (Thanks to TwistedMetal). </p> </div>
Windows 10, 1809, fully patched including all of this month's updates. OS build is 17763.379 which is the latest.
Exactly the same as mine.
Can you remember if you put CC 5.55 on before or after the patch Tuesday update?
Checking the dates on my posts here the software updater seems to have disappeared about the time of that update.
(PS. I've got the updater back now by recreating that registry key, plus CC has also populated some extra reg entries to play with).
3 minutes ago, nukecad said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> Exactly the same as mine. </p> <p> Can you remember if you put CC 5.55 on before or after the patch Tuesday update? </p> <p> Checking the dates on my posts here the software updater seems to have disappeared about the time of that update. </p> <p> (PS. I've got the updater back now by recreating that registry key, plus CC has also populated some extra reg entries to play with). </p> </div>
Updated to CCleaner 5.55 BEFORE the Windows Updates. However, as of 5 minutes ago, Software Updater is now MISSING from my CCleaner tools section. Another behind-the-scenes event.
LOL, best to see what they do over the weekend, at least they seem to be working the weekend.
Plus I've learnt a few things about how they are distrubuting these trial features, and now have some new CCleaner reg entries to play with.
(As well as the Software Updater trial I can now tun the Quick Clean trial on and off at will, by making/modifying a reg entry).
40 minutes ago, nukecad said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> LOL, best to see what they do over the weekend, at least they seem to be working the weekend. </p> <p> Plus I've learnt a few things about how they are distrubuting these trial features, and now have some new CCleaner reg entries to play with. (As well as the Software Updater trial I can now tun the Quick Clean trial on and off at will, by making/modifying a reg entry). </p> </div>
Personally, I'd be perfectly happy if I never see the Software Updater again in my FREE version. Don't want it, don't need it. My programs either update by themselves or they notify from the program itself. From what I've read elsewhere on these forums, the updates reportedly come from FileHippo.
I was able to get rid of the Software Updater by doing the following...
1. Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Piriform\CCleaner
2. Set (Cfg)SoftwareUpdater to 0.
3. Set (Cfg)SoftwareUpdaterIpm to 0.
I've seen a couple of references to the registry keys elsewhere on the forums. As they are not present on my computer, and Software Updater is now also gone, I'm happy as I want nothing to do with it. Of course, no one should do anything in the registry unless they really know what they're doing. And, as has been repeatedly said in the forums numerous times, users should not have to jump through hoops and do all sorts of mish-mosh to get a program to work.
@nukecad -- As you can see, Software Updater has just returned after being gone for approximately 24 hours. And, by the way, I now have all of those extra registry entries for the trial features you mentioned above. This nonsense is getting tiring.
Well my reg entries have deleted themselves again, so the trials have gone again, it seems consistently inconsistent.
(Although I have also found the same reg entries, and many more, elsewhere in the registry).
I've given up playing with it for now, I've got other (better) things to do.
2 minutes ago, nukecad said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> Well my reg entries have deleted themselves again, so the trials have gone again, it seems consistently inconsistent. </p> <p> (Although I have also found the same reg entries, and many more, elsewhere in the registry). </p> <p> I've given up playing with it for now, I've got other (better) things to do. </p> </div>
Agreed.
I personally don't like the fact that Software Updater is the default landing selection for Tools, when all I may want to do is see how many System Restore points the machine has.
In my case, one Windows 10 machine had the registry keys, and one Windows 7 machine didn't.
Both displayed Software Updater.
Adding the keys to the Windows 7 machine removed Software Updater.
Both keys are strings.
Export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Piriform\CCleaner to back it up.
Not a big hoop to jump through to get the functionality you want.
Certainly not a big hoop to jump through but why should anyone have to do it? CCleaner is a junk cleaner and it's becoming a bloated mess.