Sorry, I keep forgetting to answer one of your questions. chkdsk /r locates bad sectors and recovers readable information...also includes /f. chkdsk /r does what /f is doing, and more.
good news! I finished the scannow, altho once into it I realized I prob didn't need to repeat. LOL I guess it ran before - my prob, as usual, is I often don't know when I've reached the end point of a procedure.
anyway, good news is that i did the cmd to chkdsk /r and it looks ok so far. before, i didn't even get to the point where it asked if i wanted to when it shut down. so i'm going to run that, and on E too, then defrag it all. and that's it for computer's for me tonight, workwise anyway. blech! ptooie!
Springfield MO, and no, wouldn't consider myself a farm gal by any means. Just lived on a baby farm (5 acres) for a few years. Get this - this is how NOT country I am...we had some hens and 3 roosters. The roosters had a heirarchy and the head guy's name was Too Tall and came up to my knees (I'm 5'6"). He was mean! We'd just walk out the door and he come rushing over. After about a year, he actually began making contact now and then and/or actually chasing us. My then husband was gone for 10 days or so at a time. This one time I got fed up with Too Tall so I shot him with the shotgun. And then buried him! Had to do something otherwise it would attract the coyotes into the yard. so yeah...i'm a farm gal...not! And yes, the others positions changed and next in line got too aggressive and yep, you guessed it. i'm an animal lover and wouldn't hurt one unless my life depended on it - and we felt like it did at times! sheesh! who knew?!
Since I won't be traipsing in and out in the snow with an armful of computer like I did several times before, I agree that this would be a good opportunity to get acquainted with my computer. I'm not stupid - I just don't have the necessary knowledge not to screw up, and that intimidates me.
thank you so much! will probably speak with you again soon. take care.
sonsie
thanks for the info on chkdsk /r. some people just want to know what to do to make it better, but i want information. don't know how much i'll remember, but i figure it makes a small dent. LOL
very cool. i now know what to do if it won't do a chkdsk. 293 pieces of info down, 5.6 billion to go. computers! whew!
application event log errors: can't unload registry files
Microsoft User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
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It sounds as if you have allot of hardware related issues, so much so that if I were you I wouldn't buy s**t from that computer shop again.
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If chkdsk refuses to run, etc., you can use a different approach to get it to do a none-thorough scan, this will only perform the standard check using this command:
%windir%\system32\FSUTIL.exe DIRTY SET C:
To check other hard disks replace C: at the end of the command with that drive letter.
tried to delete - was a duplicate and very long
Hiyas lokoike, <snicker snicker> great 'post-erior' indeed.
?kerio personal firewall ? ..."
Before when? When it was still on the old computer, or when you first got the new computer?
Well, ever really, because the past couple of months are the first time I've had a firewall.
So theoretically, every time your computer crashes, Windows will write a half-gig of info as a .dmp file. If you have frequent crashes (which apparently you do) you may want to set your dump to small for the time being, so that your HD doesn't fill up with those
Actually, I don't crash, or it's very rare - like 3 times in 3 months. My last computer crashed all the time...anywhere from 3-4 times/day to 45-50 times/day. I won't stress about the dumping for now since it hasn't done it since those two.
What company are the HDs and mobo? Also, what company is the entire computer? And please don't say Dell...
Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Sempron, 1600 MHz (8 x 200) 2800+
Motherboard Name ECS K8M800-M2 (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 CNR, 2 DDR DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8380 K8M800, AMD Hammer
System Memory 512 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award (09/18/05)
Motherboard Manufacturer:
Company Name Elitegroup Computer Systems
Product Information http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/Prod...nuID=16&LanID=0
BIOS Download http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/Cat...px?Categoryid=1
ATA Device Manufacturer:
Company Name Western Digital Corporation
Product Information http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products
LOL No, not a Dell or a Gateway. The computer is made by a local company called DIT Computers. It was started by one man about 10 years ago, not quite in, but close to the proverbial garage. They only have 4 storefronts - three in Nebraska and one in Iowa. I followed a link to resellers.com and found some customer comments there. Unfortunately, they were all at least 5 years old, but the gist was people either loved DIT (more) or weren't crazy about them (a couple). No one said they were horrible, just that they wouldn't buy there again, even though prices are usually better than internet prices. Seems like the complaints were mostly on the customer service side, but a few were about products. There's not a lot to choose from in Omaha as far as repairs/techs. I've heard that places like Best Buy charge a non-refundable $100 diagnostic fee, don't do the work there but send it off somewhere, and the computer could easily be gone for 6-8 weeks after being told it would be a couple of weeks and no contact letting you know this (2 sides to every story, though). At DIT, there's a non-refundable $50 diagnostic fee and normally a wait of 5-7 days before they start on it because of the backup and prob not enough techs, but once they start, it's normally less than a couple of days to be finished. If the computer is one of theirs, service is free for the life of the computer. If it's been in the shop within the previous 90 days, there's no 5-7 day wait - you're priority and they take you right away. As for products, I haven't a clue except that they're name brands. Here's their website: http://www.ditcorp.com
Hds are labeled C: and E:, with system files on C:. If I remember correctly, there are two actual HDs, not just one that's been partitioned - am almost positive of that. Partitioning...hmmm...I know I should know this, and have seen where to find the info before, but have forgotten. I *think* neither are partitioned.
OK, there's some answers for ya, now a couple of questions....
What about that .ini file I found all by its lonesome? From different post:
Just now when I was looking for a log, I found a loose file in Local Settings > Application Data. The type of file is "Configuration Settings" and there's not much info. The name is a bunch of capital letters, dashes and numbers, and under "view" it shows "Root Entry", followed by lots of capital letters that don't spell anything, with lots of rows of "y"s, also. That's followed by another grouping that looks the same, then towards the bottom there's small letters and symbols, along with the abbreviations "auds" and "vids" and rows of "y"s. That's followed by another grouping that's very similar, if not identical. The "created" date is Feb 23 and the "modified" date is Mar 3.
It seems like it's significant given the fact that I had 'debug' info regarding videos on the scan I did, as well as on the system log.
Speaking of the scan I did, do you want a copy? It's a Lavalys Everest application (freeware) which seems pretty darned in-depth. If you run everything and don't condense the report, the help files say there could easily be 2MB of data. Everything looked good on mine (I think) except for video and monitor - and that reminds me...I was able to run the chkdsk /r last night, and then did defrag. Since then I've been getting plug and play errors on system log, which is one of the first errors I got a couple weeks ago.
Last question...what on earth could be causing my hardware to go bad??!! Ideas? And why doesn't anything show up as problematic in my device manager? or the diagnostics I ran?
btw, interestingly, I haven't had any errors since 5am or so when I did the chkdsk and defrag, with the exception of a couple of plug and play errors. hmmm...ok, just kind of brainstorming here - I know next to nothing about the workings of computers. Would it be possible/likely that something with my monitor is causing the problems? That would sure explain why the techs at the shop rarely had any of the probs I did, and also why I'm having almost the same probs with this new computer as the old. Just a thought. The monitor is a Proview.
Hi Andavari,
It sounds as if you have allot of hardware related issues, so much so that if I were you I wouldn't buy s**t from that computer shop again.
I know...I'm frustrated to say the least and don't know what to blame. I'm not blindly defending DIT - but check out their site. They're not what I would expect from a 4 storefront operation. I did get the chkdsk to run. That hive thing? does it do something to the registry? and since that error's a couple of weeks old, should I do the cleanup anyway?
sonsie
darn! sorry about that double post. I didn't think the first one went because when the page finally changed, it said 'unable to find page'. aarrgghhh
There's not a lot to choose from in Omaha as far as repairs/techs.
Omaha! I have some friends in Omaha, and I swear that people there are just the nicest people that you will ever meet.
Everything looked good on mine (I think) except for video and monitor - and that reminds me...I was able to run the chkdsk /r last night, and then did defrag. Since then I've been getting plug and play errors on system log, which is one of the first errors I got a couple weeks ago.
What does the error say? Is the plug and play turned off, or is it started?
Last question...what on earth could be causing my hardware to go bad??!! Ideas? And why doesn't anything show up as problematic in my device manager? or the diagnostics I ran?
I don't know why, but I just heard a story about a guy who had a 5 month old computer. He came home, and turned the computer on and....it Blew Up!
darn! sorry about that double post. I didn't think the first one went because when the page finally changed, it said 'unable to find page'. aarrgghhh
No problem. It's happening to everyone today.
Not surprised you have friends here - it's not far. Yep, nice people.
What does the error say? Is the plug and play turned off, or is it started?
LOLOL Neither.
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: PlugPlayManager
Event ID: 260
Description:
The service "CiSvc" vetoed a target device change request.
...and when I sent it in to MS, this is what their blurb said:
Symbolic Name: WRN_TARGET_DEVICE_CHANGE_SERVICE_VETO
Message: The service "%1" vetoed a target device change request.
Explanation
Your request to safely remove a device from the system was overridden by the specified service. The most likely cause was that the service was using that device at the time.
User Action
Try to remove the device later or, if you don't need the service, stop it and then try to remove the device.
ummm...but I'm not trying to remove anything.
I've been told that about computers and their parts going kaput - he said you can buy a new one and it may last for 5 yrs or 5 days. sheesh...they can put a man on the moon, but ........
I didn't answer your message again... I didn't see it until I'd written that long post answering the question you asked in it - figured you'd find it. LOL
sonsie
That hive thing? does it do something to the registry? and since that error's a couple of weeks old, should I do the cleanup anyway?
Yes it has to do with the registry not unloading. I had those errors in the event log and installing MS User Profile Hive Cleanup Service got rid of those errors altogether. It also will allow your computer to shutdown/restart properly if the hives are what's causing the problems. You can read a full description from the link I provided in my first post.
kill CiSvc with fire. Context indexing in XP is really unstable in my experiences.
Start > Run > sc config cisvc start= disabled
(don't forget the space after "start=")
ok, I think I can find the courage to mess with the registry, but will have to work on the courage to disable CiSvc. I'll see what layperson info I can find for my own peace of mind, but could I ask... why is it ok to disable it? And how do I know that the errors/warnings I'm having from it aren't indicators of a genuine problem?
I'm still wondering about that file I found. If you don't have any ideas that's cool, but if the question has gotten lost in the shuffle, would someone please look at my description of it? I don't know what it is other than a configuration settings file which mentions 'Root Entry' and 'auds' and 'vids'.
From previous post:
Just now when I was looking for a log, I found a loose file in Local Settings > Application Data. The type of file is "Configuration Settings" and there's not much info. The name is a bunch of capital letters, dashes and numbers, and under "view" it shows "Root Entry", followed by lots of capital letters that don't spell anything, with lots of rows of "y"s, also. That's followed by another grouping that looks the same, then towards the bottom there's small letters and symbols, along with the abbreviations "auds" and "vids" and rows of "y"s. That's followed by another grouping that's very similar, if not identical. The "created" date is Feb 23 and the "modified" date is Mar 3.
Thanks!
sonsie
LOL Have no fear with the Hive Cleanup. It's harmless, and I can't think of a way that it could get messed up.
DjLizard is only suggesting that you disable the module (for the Indexing Service). You won't be removing it so if at any time you want to enable it again you can. It's simply turning it off and on (but it's still there). If you go to your "start" and then to "help and support" and look up indexing it will tell you what it is, how it works, and how to turn it off and on.
haha - I just found you on another forum.
Also, I have been doing some searching and some people have fixed the PlugPlay error by following DjLizard's instructions.
Give it a try and let us know what happens.
I did a google for "What is CiSvc?" and got lots of good info and one link in particular was to one of my fave forums - bet that's where you saw me...castlecops? no...hmmm..didn't log on there recently. oh you may have seen posts. Anyway, I have much faith and trust in castlecops (as I'm also establishing here )
and altho the posts were from 2004, lots of people were disabling cisvc due to some info someone posted saying it's safe to do so. So I did it! Pulled up the site for the Hive program, but got sidetracked back here by a post about password programs - had to stop to type a note there, and after a shower I'm going to install the Hive. I am woman hear me rooaarrrr. errr...in this case...bzzzzzzzz.
Thanks for checking out the PlugnPlay info! I'll keep my fingers crossed.
sonsie
I am woman hear me rooaarrrr. errr...in this case...bzzzzzzzz.
That's funny. We must have similiar sense of humours as I self-correct myself also after typing something. Sometimes.
Speaking of the scan I did, do you want a copy? It's a Lavalys Everest application (freeware) which seems pretty darned in-depth. If you run everything and don't condense the report, the help files say there could easily be 2MB of data. Everything looked good on mine (I think) except for video and monitor - and that reminds me...I was able to run the chkdsk /r last night, and then did defrag. Since then I've been getting plug and play errors on system log, which is one of the first errors I got a couple weeks ago.
I <3 EVEREST... or at least I did before they stopped making freeware versions of it!
You could email me the report, but I doubt it would do too much good. That is just way too much info for my little brain!
Last question...what on earth could be causing my hardware to go bad??!! Ideas? And why doesn't anything show up as problematic in my device manager? or the diagnostics I ran?
Hardware wears down like anything else. Especially components that have moving parts such as hard drives and fans. The parts eventually die due to things like electrical resistance, friction, vibration, etc. Also, if the parts had a small defect in them when you got them, the parts could potentially die within a very short period of time.
btw, interestingly, I haven't had any errors since 5am or so when I did the chkdsk and defrag, with the exception of a couple of plug and play errors. hmmm...ok, just kind of brainstorming here - I know next to nothing about the workings of computers. Would it be possible/likely that something with my monitor is causing the problems? That would sure explain why the techs at the shop rarely had any of the probs I did, and also why I'm having almost the same probs with this new computer as the old. Just a thought. The monitor is a Proview.
Well, in a word, no. If your monitor was bad, your picture might be blurry, aliased, discolored, etc., but that wouldn't cause you to get disk errors and such. The monitor is basically just a TV. It doesn't really send your computer commands, it simply receives images and displays them.
I <3 EVEREST... or at least I did before they stopped making freeware versions of it!
I think it's still free - at least mine was and I just got it 1-2 weeks ago.
If your monitor was bad, your picture might be blurry, aliased, discolored, etc., but that wouldn't cause you to get disk errors and such
Well, I thought it was a long shot but figured I'd throw it out there. It just seems so bizarre to have 4 harddrives and possibly a motherboard or 2 - or some combination thereof - go bad in a 4 month period and the monitor was the only thing I hadn't figured into the equation. I've even moved from a house into an apartment during that time, so it wasn't anything to do with physical location, wiring, internet service, etc.
One more thought...is it possible that there's a software application that's causing it? I suppose I could do a search on everything I have to see if there are other similar complaints. I probably would have heard of it, but ya never know. Every few months I come across obscure problems being talking about that I never heard of.
sonsie
I think it's still free - at least mine was and I just got it 1-2 weeks ago.
You can still download the old version (2.20) for free, but the newest version 2.5, and the soon to be released 2.8 must be paid for.
One more thought...is it possible that there's a software application that's causing it? I suppose I could do a search on everything I have to see if there are other similar complaints. I probably would have heard of it, but ya never know. Every few months I come across obscure problems being talking about that I never heard of.
sonsie
The only kind of software I can think of that could cause physical problems would be overclocking software, which I'm sure you don't use. Apps like CPU Burn-in give your processor loads of commands that cause it to heat up to extraordinary temperatures. Software such as this could potentially adversely affect your computer, but otherwise, software is not the culprit.
One possibility (and perhaps you already addressed this) is your PSU (power supply unit). It is the box located in the top-back section of your tower, and it sends power to all of your components. If you used the same case/PSU for both computers, that might be where your problem is at.