Just updated to 5.37.6309 and now have this on my desktop.
No thanks CCleaner no stealth tactics please.
g'day Mark and welcome to the forum,
it is offered when installing CC via a pre-ticked option (not a fan myself).
you can go into Control Panel and remove the Avast software if it has been installed.
if it's just stored the installation file for Avast on the desktop, that too can be deleted.
Stealth tactics?! I think you just click to fast. Something like that can happen.
Hmmm missed that, thought it was an advert.
The way the ticks are lined up is border line stealth tactics IMO. Also should be off by default IMO.
Yes, you are right. It should be unticked by default.
I do NOT like having the Avast software downloaded and activated on my computer, without my permission. There was no box when I upgraded to the latest version that informed me it would be installed. And that is another point. . .why is the PRO version of CCleaner not able to install updates? Why should we have to come here, download the "trial version" and then internally allow our license to validate our rights to it? Furthermore, the Avast software just informed me that "you have joined a different Network . . ." then giving me the "name" of that network, Avast asks if it can scan it. Is this a sneaky way to make inroads into networks it discovers nearby? WTH - Piriform. We are your customers give us the option PROMINENTLY to choose. Thank you.
There was absolutely no box regarding Avast when I upgraded CCleaner. I'm not blind, I'd have seen it, esp. since I always choose the Customize option just above. And now I can't even uninstall it because it's not in the list of installed app! But the Avast folders are there in C:\Program Files and in C:\ProgramData How do I get rid of that unwanted program now?? This is a disgusting tactic to force unwanted apps on users, shame on you.
There is a requirement, tacit or otherwise, that check boxes are UNTICKED by default.
The text and the box is very small and yes, of course people are in a hurry. It is deliberately deceptive and divisive. To any reasonable person this is, to all intents, installation by stealth and nothing but. There is no excuse for it.
It wasted over an hour of my time today, firstly because it downloaded and installed itself and then consumed all the spare resources so that all open work was effectively frozen to the point that even a re-start command was ineffective and secondly, because that forced me to have to do a manual kill and sytem reset, followed by a sytems restore, a further reset and restore, a reboot and re-load of work to get back to where I was.
Over an hour unnecessarily wasted and my daily workflow frustrated. That lost time is unrecoverable. Thank you Piriform.
You have made one thing very clear to me. To never, ever subscribe to any of your products. If you cannot be trusted, you do not deserve my custom.
3 hours ago, arqn said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> There was absolutely no box regarding Avast when I upgraded CCleaner. I'm not blind, I'd have seen it, esp. since I always choose the Customize option just above. And now I can't even uninstall it because it's not in the list of installed app! But the Avast folders are there in C:\Program Files and in C:\ProgramData <strong>How do I get rid of that unwanted program now??</strong> This is a disgusting tactic to force unwanted apps on users, shame on you. </p> <p> <a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" data-fileid="10380" href="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2017_11/5a0d9f4607074_Avast1.jpg.c6229a37accc004b1ecb3be3fef39275.jpg" rel=""><img alt="Avast 1.jpg" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" data-fileid="10380" src="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2017_11/5a0d9f4607074_Avast1.jpg.c6229a37accc004b1ecb3be3fef39275.jpg"></a> </p> </div>
Do a system restore using a restore point (date/time, paying attention to time zone) before you got stuck with this cr*p, following which delete the Avast Software folder.
(FWIW, for things like this I do system restore at command line level, or you could use Win in Safe Mode.)
3 hours ago, arqn said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> ... <strong>How do I get rid of that unwanted program now??</strong> ... </p> </div>
Or you could try the uninstall utility: https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility
3 minutes ago, APMichael said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> Or you could try the uninstall utility: <a href="https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility" rel="external nofollow">https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility</a> </p> </div>
Assuming you feel you can trust the party that gave you the infection to actually remove it and not soil your system further...
1 hour ago, Jin said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> The text and the box is very small and yes, of course people are in a hurry. It is deliberately deceptive and <span>divisive.</span> To any reasonable person this is, to all intents, installation by stealth and nothing but. There is no excuse for it. </p> </div>
Exactly. Those bundled offers are by design deceptive. When I buy a car I don't expect to be receiving a gym membership because it's written in the small prints of my purchasing contract.
55 minutes ago, APMichael said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> Or you could try the uninstall utility: <a href="https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility" rel="external nofollow">https://www.avast.com/en-us/uninstall-utility</a> </p> </div>
That's what I did in the end since there was no other way. Seems to have done the job, I can't see anymore traces of Avast, even in the registry.
Still, I don't see a box to opt out in the customize menu of CCleaner. If you don't opt out on the first window, you're screwed.
Bundling also allows software to be free. As far as your customize screenshot @arqn that's not where the checkbox is, it's on the first page the installer shows (as per screenshot @APMichael provided)
1 hour ago, Nergal said:<div class="ipsQuote_contents"> <p> Bundling also allows software to be free. <a contenteditable="false" data-ipshover="" data-ipshover-target="<___base_url___>/profile/80501-arqn/?do=hovercard" data-mentionid="80501" href="<___base_url___>/profile/80501-arqn/" rel="">@arqn</a><a contenteditable="false" data-ipshover="" data-ipshover-target="<___base_url___>/profile/58475-apmichael/?do=hovercard" data-mentionid="58475" href="<___base_url___>/profile/58475-apmichael/" rel="">@APMichael</a> </p> </div>
That's not the point being debated though , is it.
The point is that it is a secondary (and often unwanted) offering and should be a clear and unabiguous choice, where the user is required to give permission (i.e. default off).
It's not that you are offering the user a sweet ('candy' for those across the pond) but more akin to a drug, something they might enjoy but which could also make them sick and cause harm.