The difference is Java actually does some nice things. Unlike flash.
I hate flash.
I have never installed Java on any of my systems and refuse to install Java just because a program needs it to run. If a program requires Java, I don't use it.
I keep it around for Minecraft, mostly.
I have never installed Java on any of my systems and refuse to install Java just because a program needs it to run. If a program requires Java, I don't use it.
I used to think that way, but then, your stuck with supporting MS with Office 2007/2010/etc... Else, using freebie Open Office... Which is more evil?
Or LibreOffice! But still requires Java
Go to a gubmint site or your bank site. Rotsa ruck with getting anything done. Oh, you're 20? You'll find out later. Forget Java, most gubmint & bank sites require you log in using IE9. Mmm mmm mmm...IE9...
yuck!
My banking site runs on JavaScript, and lets me login even using Firefox Nightly (18.0a1)
My online banking site is valid HTML5. They're trendy like that.
If a program requires Java, I don't use it.
Ditto. I've been interested in a small amount of programs but have seen they require Java so I find a suitable alternative to them. That and in the past I've seen some rather shat programs written in Java that were RAM intensive and resource hogs.
My banking site runs on JavaScript, and lets me login even using Firefox Nightly (18.0a1)
My banking site has always used JavaScript, and works in any web browser I've tried. And if the site doesn't work it simply means they're doing maintenance which is seemingly always at an annoying time at like 8AM-9AM just before the actual physical site (not website) bank building opens.
Don't confuse web-based Java (applets etc) with the general purpose Java Platform. It's only the web where Java needs to die; everywhere else it's actually immensely useful. Android apps almost exclusively run on Java, as do many other cool things.
most gubmint & bank sites require you log in using IE9. Mmm mmm mmm...IE9...
yuck!
Century Link also requires it to "activate" your internet the 1st time. I tried using Firefox, & it wouldn't work cause it didn't have active-X.
Had to use Internet Exploder,
There are actually very few websites or web applications that require Java; I only know about three or four (Secunia OSI is one of them).
My country has just opened an e-voting website for expats; very useful, but it's fully written in Java.
I guess I will just keep the Java plugin disabled, and temporarily enable it when a site requires it.
P.S. LibreOffice is slowly going away from the JRE requirement. Right now only the DB component requires it, and that will be replaced in the next major release. OpenOffice on the other hand, now belonging to Oracle, will of course remain Java dependent.
Century Link also requires it to "activate" your internet the 1st time. I tried using Firefox, & it wouldn't work cause it didn't have active-X.
Don't tell me you actually installed their craptastic software?
You can configure everything via your modem configuration in this IP (of course the config screen still reads as Qwest):
192.168.0.1
P.S. LibreOffice is slowly going away from the JRE requirement. Right now only the DB component requires it, and that will be replaced in the next major release.
I had not realized that... Sounds good to me!
Java needs to die... Too many vulnerabilities...
Don't tell me you actually installed their craptastic software?
You can configure everything via your modem configuration in this IP (of course the config screen still reads as Qwest):
192.168.0.1
I usually use 192.168.0.1, 192.168.2.1, etc. But on this occasion, it came up & stated that it had to be activated first before the internet could be used. I presume because the individual I was assisting had a wireless modem connected to a wireless modem, so I hit reset to set default passwords to factory in order to adjust wifi settings while discarding the entirely unneeded second wireless point.
The assumption I have, is the ISP saw a different IP because of disconnecting the second box & thought the connection may have been hacked...
But until running IE through the setup process, it would not cease to bring up the Century link page whether you tried to browse to Google home page, MSN, or any other. Basically a page with "Please verify this is your phone number" etc, etc, to which you would have to click next until it finished "setting up your connection".
Yes, very much craptastic, and it was not fantastic. I think Active-X should be shot dead & left there.
I had not realized that... Sounds good to me!
Java needs to die... Too many vulnerabilities...
I hadn't heard that either!
I hadn't heard that either!
See this discussion regarding HSQLDB replacement to get rid of one of the last Java dependencies: https://bugs.freedes...ug.cgi?id=51781
P.S. LibreOffice is slowly going away from the JRE requirement. Right now only the DB component requires it, and that will be replaced in the next major release. OpenOffice on the other hand, now belonging to Oracle, will of course remain Java dependent.
When they finally get rid of JRE then I'll replace OpenOffice on my mothers computer with LibreOffice. OpenOffice is beyond annoying without JRE installed, yet I refuse to install it on her computer.
I have a copy of MS Office sitting in my desk, but I still prefer LibreOffice for some reason